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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m going to go out on a limb and state that when no receivers get open…and three of your Oline get smoked…bad things usually happen.

But don't make them worse than they are. A sack there we could write off as an O line failure. Take the sack and live for another play

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He pump faked because he wanted to throw the ball away…but realized he wasn’t outside the T box…so he tried to get outside that to just get rid of the ball. Against a four man rush

The pump fake ( which the DL didn't give a crap about) only slowed down Hurts from getting clearly outside the box... and having a better chance of staying outside the end zone.  

It was a mistake made by Hurts....hopefully he learns from it.  Hopefully he isn't surrounded by people like yourself who never blame him for anything...because he won't learn 

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m going to go out on a limb and state that when no receivers get open…and three of your Oline get smoked…bad things usually happen.

If you're going to throw the ball away KNOW WHERE your receivers are and throw it at their feet. You need to know where these players are,that is the QB's job

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m going to go out on a limb and state that when no receivers get open…and three of your Oline get smoked…bad things usually happen.

And I'll go out on a limb...the QB should NOT make it worse.   Don't throw a pick or take a safety.   

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The pump fake ( which the DL didn't give a crap about) only slowed down Hurts from getting clearly outside the box... and having a better chance of staying outside the end zone.  

It was a mistake made by Hurts....hopefully he learns from it.  Hopefully he isn't surrounded by people like yourself who never blame him for anything...because he won't learn 

He made the same mistake in the AZ game(see post) then did it again in TB

Clearly Hurts tried to get rid of the ball…fought like heck to just be able to unload it. He didn’t make it. Hard to ask a guy to shut off that competitor in him. He initially tried to escape to the right…but Laje got smoked and he couldn’t. Was going backwards because Dickerson was getting bull rushed and dominated so badly. So he tried to escape to his left…but Mailata got beat also. Tough play. You can’t point your finger at Hurts always. Up to you. He was in a heck of a difficult situation on that play. I’m sure he wishes he could have it back and have replaced all his supporting cast failing him in that moment. Just taken the snap and taken a knee instantly.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But don't make them worse than they are. A sack there we could write off as an O line failure. Take the sack and live for another play

He tried to get outside the pocket to just throw the ball away…to live another play

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He tried to get outside the pocket to just throw the ball away…to live another play

by running straight backwards 14 yards?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you're going to throw the ball away KNOW WHERE your receivers are and throw it at their feet. You need to know where these players are,that is the QB's job

He saw all the receivers…blanketed by defenders. That would have been worse than taking the safety…would have likely been a pick six.

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mailata and Lane meet both their rushers all the way back at the three yard line. Hurts couldn’t escape. Clearly he was trying to. But Dickerson getting pushed straight back in the middle of the pocket so quickly made the situation a disaster. All receivers were covered. Oline blocked like crap. But it was just Hurts fault…sure.

Dude...stop already...we all agree everyone messed up....stop it.  It's the QB'S job not to make it worse.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He tried to get outside the pocket to just throw the ball away…to live another play

You're not getting outside the tackle box going south LOL

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

by running straight backwards 14 yards?

Why were three of the four rushers 14 yards in our backfield so quickly? Isn’t that the real question?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He saw all the receivers…blanketed by defenders. That would have been worse than taking the safety…would have likely been a pick six.

Right...take the sack on the 5...in fact he could have leaned forward to fall around the 8.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why were three of the four rushers 14 yards in our backfield so quickly? Isn’t that the real question?

Because everyone messed up on the play...so the QB shouldn't have made it worse.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why were three of the four rushers 14 yards in our backfield so quickly? Isn’t that the real question?

No

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

You're not getting outside the tackle box going south LOL

He tried to escape to his right…but Lsme was getting owned so he couldn’t. So he wheeled around…but Dickerson was getting bull ridged beaten so badly…forcing him further backwards. So he could try to escape to his left. But Mailata didn’t win his matchup either and his guy kept Hurts from escaping.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Because everyone messed up on the play...so the QB shouldn't have made it worse.

Everybody messed up…so just blame Hurts…your usual

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He tried to escape to his right…but Lsme was getting owned so he couldn’t. So he wheeled around…but Dickerson was getting bull ridged beaten so badly…forcing him further backwards. So he could try to escape to his left. But Mailata didn’t win his matchup either and his guy kept Hurts from escaping.

So there it is!!! The plan to defeat the Eagles,box Hurts in. If he can't figure this out we are going nowhere

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He took the S in the AZ game,then did it again at TB,learned ZIP. he has to do better in the brain game

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No

Nobody else is responsible to do their job ..BUT hurts…I see

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So there it is!!! The plan to defeat the Eagles,box Hurts in. If he can't figure this out we are going nowhere

Yes clearly! If you rush four and three of them dominate..plus no receivers get open…we’ll lose every time.

Plenty of QBs know they can’t escape and give up. But Hurts many many times does escape. He’s fantastic at it. But didn’t work that time.

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7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody else is responsible to do their job ..BUT hurts…I see

He has to be prepared if they fail to do their jobs,that is why he is the highest paid on the team

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7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes clearly! If you rush four and three of them dominate..plus no receivers get open…we’ll lose every time.

If Hurts can't beat them or make them pay that is correct

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8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Plenty of QBs know they can’t escape and give up. But Hurts many many times does escape. He’s fantastic at it. But didn’t work that time.

With all the talent we have at the skill positions he should never need to escape,MAKE the PLAY. he has 5 targets he can hit. Can't do 1 read and panic 

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