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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Our future salary cap debt is miles beyond everybody else

Clueless.

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9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Clueless.

So you are saying it’s a lie that we have so much more future money already spent than everybody else? This is pure fact!

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you are saying it’s a lie that we have so much more future money already spent than everybody else? This is pure fact!

So you are saying that you don't understand that having your core players locked up under contract means you have them on the books?

So you are saying that you don't understand that other teams still need to sign players and that's why they currently show open cap space?

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you are saying that you don't understand that having your core players locked up under contract means you have them on the books?

So you are saying that you don't understand that other teams still need to sign players and that's why they currently show open cap space?

What part makes me clueless by my understanding of the over 300 mil we’ve spent of future cap?

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Clueless.

What would make me clueless when I’m showing very clear exacting knowledge demonstrating the opposite of clueless?

allowed Sirianni to own the decision and hand things off to Kellen Moore rather than Kliff Kingbury after the latter wanted to enact more change than Siriannni was comfortable with, according to an NFL source.

Kliff would have been a hire I preferred

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What would make me clueless when I’m showing very clear exacting knowledge demonstrating the opposite of clueless?

" indebtedness " .... lol.  Trying to spin in negative.

Here is the more accurate headline.

THE EAGLES WERE SMART TO LOCK UP THEIR CORE PLAYERS... here is a chart where you can see where they jumped ahead of the market.   Other teams here still have to pay their players... but those #s will jump up huge as the cap goes up.

Imagine if we trade Hurts.. so our biggest piece of " indebtedness " goes away.  

" indebtedness "   lol

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

" indebtedness " .... lol.  Trying to spin in negative.

Here is the more accurate headline.

THE EAGLES WERE SMART TO LOCK UP THEIR CORE PLAYERS... here is a chart where you can see where they jumped ahead of the market.   Other teams here still have to pay their players... but those #s will jump up huge as the cap goes up.

It’s future salary cap dollars that have already been paid….hence indebtedness

16 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Clueless.

So what’s clueless about these very factual financial statements?

Rosie has us, once again, setup in such a deep financial hole it will be hard to fire him…again just like 2020. Same pattern over and over and you keep slurping it up like it’s delicious.

He better make some unbelievably great moves and get us a legit contending team together now…that can be sustained for the next couple of seasons.

 "From the outside looking in, you’re like, 'Damn, I can’t stand that guy,' Saquan 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie has us, once again, setup in such a deep financial hole it will be hard to fire him…again just like 2020. Same pattern over and over and you keep slurping it up like it’s delicious.

This is the clueless part!

Similar to your blind lust for Hurts....you have the blind hate for Howie.  

The salary cap is absolutely more than fine.   You continue to show how you have no clue as to how the cap works.  You want to believe so badly that Howie messed up the cap... the " I called it" part you live for, that you don't use common sense on this.

I've tried to explain each specific portion a million times to you.

Rolling cap... the cap goes up each year... 

Backload... gives flexibility to either release or redo a contract ( team holds control)

Signing bonus... allows the player to get paid early and in a way that keeps cap down long term.

Void years = way to pay 25 cents for a dollar. 

The Eagles have " indebtedness " because they locked up everyone long term before things blow up.   This is going to give them ability to stay in the free agent market.   

Your issue is they don't get the guys that you want...that's a different issue.

As for Sirianni's ultra-competitive nature, he reportedly upset team owner Jeffrey Lurie when he taunted Kansas City Chiefs fans after a "Monday Night Football" win in November of last year. Sirianni also built a reputation for having arguments with players and coaches on the sidelines during games.

32 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

This is the clueless part!

Similar to your blind lust for Hurts....you have the blind hate for Howie.  

The salary cap is absolutely more than fine.   You continue to show how you have no clue as to how the cap works.  You want to believe so badly that Howie messed up the cap... the " I called it" part you live for, that you don't use common sense on this.

I've tried to explain each specific portion a million times to you.

Rolling cap... the cap goes up each year... 

Backload... gives flexibility to either release or redo a contract ( team holds control)

Signing bonus... allows the player to get paid early and in a way that keeps cap down long term.

Void years = way to pay 25 cents for a dollar. 

The Eagles have " indebtedness " because they locked up everyone long term before things blow up.   This is going to give them ability to stay in the free agent market.   

Your issue is they don't get the guys that you want...that's a different issue.

You said the clueless part was the financial figures. 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You said the clueless part was the financial figures. 

The term "indebtedness"  if you know about this clueless guy... that term has a negative connotation.   There is no debt.

You sign guys... they get a signing bonus... obviously they get paid but that all doesn't count vs the cap.  We just locked up all these guys... they all got money, obviously they are on the books and we have to account for that in the future. 

You know who has no " indebtedness"   Dallas.... because they show nothing.... but 3 players can all of a sudden get around a half of a billion dollars soon.  Either that, or they lose the players.     

Do you want to reverse any moves locking up Hurts, AJ, Smith, Mailata, Dickerson etc?    That's the money paid that needs to be accounted for long term.   The mess that Howie created... lol.  

I agree though, the QB's deal might not look as good in a few years, but still it is going to have a way less cap effect than these other QBs.  

 

Lots of talk today about " QB1"  being ranked QB 13.    

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Basically just reports Eagles didn’t want to make that much change to accommodate bringing in Bellicheat…that retaining Siri was cheaper…or just easier….than admitting mistakes

Derrick Gunn, a longtime Eagles reporter, claimed on X Wednesday that head of security Dom DiSandro getting banned from the sideline had a significant impact on the team. DiSandro helped control Sirianni’s emotions on the sideline, according to Gunn. Without his presence, the head coach became embroiled in "numerous arguments” with both players and coaches during games.

 

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Basically just reports Eagles didn’t want to make that much change to accommodate bringing in Bellicheat…that retaining Siri was cheaper…or just easier….than admitting mistakes

You want Belicheck in here?   Why?  Dude should have retired 5 years ago.  Especially when it comes to building anything,  why would the Eagles organization that has built up rosters multiple times recently want  guy who has been awful after losing Brady?

Only an idiot would want Belicheck now. 

Maybe we can get Belicheck....Reddick back and Ziggy Anzah out of retirement.... that's the future.

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