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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So how does a QB develop and become good at reading and understanding Ds?

Does any QB put up more passing stats and look better in a quality scheme with a quality O mind calling the good plays? Or do QBs typically learn better reading and understanding reading Ds from offensive minds that can’t adjust and figure out fairly basic and simple counters to DCs curveballs?

 Everybody knows and understands that it’s easier to grab the ‘tells’ about reading a D by utilizing motion. So would being massively the lowest O scheme utilizing motion help or hurt a QB reading the D?

They learn by not running the read option and running the ball 17 times in a game.   Pass first, pass second, pass 3rd, pass 4th, pass 5th...then run when all 5 guys aren't open.   Play QB, not a glorified RB.   Then you can improve exponentially over a QB who runs all the time.  Ask the Baltimore fans. 

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5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Steve Young’s coach…was he considered a good coach? Is he note worthy in the annals of NFL history? 

George Seifert was decent 

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11 hours ago, joemas6 said:

They learn by not running the read option and running the ball 17 times in a game.   Pass first, pass second, pass 3rd, pass 4th, pass 5th...then run when all 5 guys aren't open.   Play QB, not a glorified RB.   Then you can improve exponentially over a QB who runs all the time.  Ask the Baltimore fans. 

That's what I called Hurts a RB who can throw LOL

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what I called Hurts a RB who can throw LOL

They were debating best QB in the NFC.   Dak, Stafford, Goff, Love....etc.

This to me is a big reason why I'm feeling good about this year.

Last year was the " let's kiss Hurts ass season" ... dude was a little too full of himself.  Not so much his fault at all... really not any of his fault IMO.  

The perception changed now...he is a normal human now.  Will be treated as such...where he has to prove himself every day.   

I think this goes a long way toward team success

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what I called Hurts a RB who can throw LOL

He threw for almost 4K yards in a bad scheme with coaches that couldn’t adjust

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what I called Hurts a RB who can throw LOL

4th most passing yards in a season in our franchises history

Jamal Adams' deal with the #Titans is a one-year veteran salary benefit contract with $1.125M guaranteed. It's a low-risk, potentially high-reward move by Tennessee, who will be getting a rejuvenated Adams.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

4th most passing yards in a season in our franchises history

14th in the league in 2023.    The " franchise history "   3 important things to consider

1.  The extra game

2.  The style of play in 2024...it's a passing league

3.  His WRs

The comparison to the contemporaries is more relevant.   Especially when the counter is who is #1 in franchise history, throwing to Greg Ward as his best WR. 

 

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jamal Adams' deal with the #Titans is a one-year veteran salary benefit contract with $1.125M guaranteed. It's a low-risk, potentially high-reward move by Tennessee, who will be getting a rejuvenated Adams.

That's awesome....what else you got about the Tennessee Titans?    

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

14th in the league in 2023.    The " franchise history "   3 important things to consider

1.  The extra game

2.  The style of play in 2024...it's a passing league

3.  His WRs

The comparison to the contemporaries is more relevant.   Especially when the counter is who is #1 in franchise history, throwing to Greg Ward as his best WR. 

 

Drew Brees threw for 3,576 24 TDs and 15 interceptions when he was 26….less yards all before that. Just to point out since Brees was referenced earlier. Hurts is 25.

  You really are invoking the extra game versus the Giants? The whole 55 yards Hurts threw for in that meaningless game nobody on our team was ready to play before Hurts got injured.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

That's awesome....what else you got about the Tennessee Titans?    

Do I even need to say the words …I called it? 

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

14th in the league in 2023.    The " franchise history "   3 important things to consider

1.  The extra game

2.  The style of play in 2024...it's a passing league

3.  His WRs

The comparison to the contemporaries is more relevant.   Especially when the counter is who is #1 in franchise history, throwing to Greg Ward as his best WR. 

 

Number one was throwing to Alson Jeffrey, Torrey Smith and Ertz….that our backup won the SB with. That’s all before mentioning the fantastic coaching staff that was present….versus Hurts doing it with a group that all deserved to be fired after they even self admitted their O scheme and playcalling was predictable and stale.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drew Brees threw for 3,576 24 TDs and 15 interceptions when he was 26….less yards all before that. Just to point out since Brees was referenced earlier. Hurts is 25.

  You really are invoking the extra game versus the Giants? The whole 55 yards Hurts threw for in that meaningless game nobody on our team was ready to play before Hurts got injured.

What year was Drew Brees 26?    Football is way different now.   It's a passing league.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Number one was throwing to Alson Jeffrey, Torrey Smith and Ertz….that our backup won the SB with. That’s all before mentioning the fantastic coaching staff that was present….versus Hurts doing it with a group that all deserved to be fired after they even self admitted their O scheme and playcalling was predictable and stale.

#1 holds the record in 2019.  Only season over 4000 yards.  Throwing to Greg Ward.

Drew Brees in 2005.... game was a little different then, especially when he had LT the dominant RB running the ball...top 3 WRs.... Keenan McCardell, Eric Parker and Reche Caldwell. 

The Eagles OC in 2019 was Mike Groh.

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8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drew Brees threw for 3,576 24 TDs and 15 interceptions when he was 26….less yards all before that. Just to point out since Brees was referenced earlier. Hurts is 25.

  You really are invoking the extra game versus the Giants? The whole 55 yards Hurts threw for in that meaningless game nobody on our team was ready to play before Hurts got injured.

Didn't Brees have Alvin Kamara?

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This Trump assasination attempt stinks from every angle

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Didn't Brees have Alvin Kamara?

This was San Diego.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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Not a fan of going to home games.   

Was at the Phillies yesterday with the family.   Scorching hot... dude in front was drinking the $13 Miller Lites and $16 Surfsides  pretty good.   $6:50 for a bag of peanuts. 

Idk... if I drink, it's before the game.

We’ve almost made it through to TC

Our future salary cap debt is miles beyond everybody else

Fans have stormed the stadium in Miami for the Copa America Final. Sounds like total mayhem has broken loose.

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