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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But he gets GM of the year,that's like the MVP QB.You can't get there being a moron

I don’t buy into that award. Just no way to judge any GM off one season. It’s an accumulation situation.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure he can improve plenty in seeing the NFL Ds and developing more areas of his passing game. What QB doesn’t need to add and improve on things each offseason? But I do see some of these issues that I believe have been generated from him having a new OC every single year of college and pros. Just how accustom can any QB get in a new O scheme in just one year?

You treat Hurts like he is a rookie. No team is going to have the perfect mix of coaches and players,the QB needs to adjust and make up for that.If Hurts is a leader he needs to show us now and he has a terrific team to do it with Yet you feel only 10 wins and sorry that's not good enough for me nor should it be for you

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then why all the picks?

Because it's a catch able for the defense 

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But he gets GM of the year,that's like the MVP QB.You can't get there being a moron

And he got real lucky on his best moves that year. He failed on so many ways actually to get the great moves. He struck out on all the WRs he wanted….to get AJ. He just didn’t do crap to man the S spot so terribly he was forced to make a trade. He was trading for a S regardless. Lucky CGJ was available. Bradberry fell into his lap.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lord, which GM jumped on the Bark situation and got the guy here? Howie has the inside track many times while others are asleep at the switch LOL. So we nearly got tagged for tampering,but where did bark end up?

Packers got Jacobs. Niners beat us out for McCaffrey. Would have game changing if Rosie pulled off that trade instead of the Niners beating him out for him. Think we need to see how Barkley plays out before the endless patting on the back. He’s been injured a bunch. Had a massive workload in college and the pros. He’s elite if he can stay healthy. But it’s gotta happen. I give full credit for the trade for Swift last season. That was a gem of a deal.

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t buy into that award. Just no way to judge any GM off one season. It’s an accumulation situation.

Tell the people that vote for him LOL I don't decide that award

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And he got real lucky on his best moves that year. He failed on so many ways actually to get the great moves. He struck out on all the WRs he wanted….to get AJ. He just didn’t do crap to man the S spot so terribly he was forced to make a trade. He was trading for a S regardless. Lucky CGJ was available. Bradberry fell into his lap.

Oh all luck ok got it

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And he got real lucky on his best moves that year. He failed on so many ways actually to get the great moves. He struck out on all the WRs he wanted….to get AJ. He just didn’t do crap to man the S spot so terribly he was forced to make a trade. He was trading for a S regardless. Lucky CGJ was available. Bradberry fell into his lap.

But why is it luck for Howie...but if it the dude in SF, then he knows what he is doing?  It wasn't luck that Trent Williams was available?

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And he got real lucky on his best moves that year. He failed on so many ways actually to get the great moves. He struck out on all the WRs he wanted….to get AJ. He just didn’t do crap to man the S spot so terribly he was forced to make a trade. He was trading for a S regardless. Lucky CGJ was available. Bradberry fell into his lap.

Or maybe he has feelers out always,to know when things present themselves? overpaying for the "WR's he wanted" just kills your other point about cap space. You are back to the dream team mentality

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMFAO see,this is what you do. Hurts didn't save ANY draft,please

Do you liked Rosie’s draft that season if you take out that second round pick? It stunk. 

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Packers got Jacobs. Niners beat us out for McCaffrey. Would have game changing if Rosie pulled off that trade instead of the Niners beating him out for him.

What did Caff cost again? Jacobs is better than Bark? Did SF get LUCKY Purdy worked out for them? Or would they have had to spend on a QB in place of Caff?

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Packers got Jacobs. Niners beat us out for McCaffrey. Would have game changing if Rosie pulled off that trade instead of the Niners beating him out for him. Think we need to see how Barkley plays out before the endless patting on the back. He’s been injured a bunch. Had a massive workload in college and the pros. He’s elite if he can stay healthy. But it’s gotta happen. I give full credit for the trade for Swift last season. That was a gem of a deal.

And wasn't CMC injured a bunch before going to SF?   But they " beat us to the punch"  ?

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

This is a pretty difficult statement to argue.    Is there anyone from the 2020 draft or UDFA still on the team ...other than Hurts? 

Terrible draft if he didn’t strike that second round pick gold mine. Lord knows what we  would be up to trying to get a QB. Life would probably suck. We maybe force taking one if those busts that others tried to desperately draft too high.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I posted because it was a football story and there isn't alot to talk about right now. You don't need to read nor respond if you don't want. I post Dullaz jokes on here also,I guess those need to cease as well

We’ve made it through the tough days pretty much. TC camp is just weeks away…yahoo

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Do you liked Rosie’s draft that season if you take out that second round pick? It stunk. 

No because he took your boy Reagor instead of the top WR he should have, which everyone else knew except for you(and Howie)

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Brees didn't have talent and smarts he would have been out after his rookie contract

He had ‘it’ …..whatever all ‘it’ is. Great example of how the position is so much more than just a cannon for an arm.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Terrible draft if he didn’t strike that second round pick gold mine. Lord knows what we  would be up to trying to get a QB. Life would probably suck. We maybe force taking one if those busts that others tried to desperately draft too high.

See... I've been trying to tell you how Howie needs Hurts to be viewed ...well as you view him.  This was Howie outsmarted everyone.  He needs Hurts to be the guy.   

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He didn't save the draft he was handed the job when Wentz was forced out

So what guy is as the good pick? Taking out that second rounder.

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Terrible draft if he didn’t strike that second round pick gold mine. Lord knows what we  would be up to trying to get a QB. Life would probably suck. We maybe force taking one if those busts that others tried to desperately draft too high.

If Hurts was a gold mine he would have gone in round 1. It was a head scratcher for me and everyone on earth-LUCK!!!! Howie got LUCKY!!!! And he spent his first years running gadget plays for something to do

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He had ‘it’ …..whatever all ‘it’ is. Great example of how the position is so much more than just a cannon for an arm.

Yeah...you need to read a defense and make the throw.    

Why this obsession about a cannon for an arm?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Hurts was a gold mine he would have gone in round 1. It was a head scratcher for me and everyone on earth-LUCK!!!! Howie got LUCKY!!!!

Nah...Howie outsmarted everyone.   Hurts is Howie's boy.    He even brought in his childhood friend as QB coach and then promoted him to OC.

Now he let Siri pick his guy... who isn't Hurts's boy and who isn't going to get us a 3rd round comp pick if he leaves. 

Another sign they stopped kissing Hurts ass.... Howie is back in favor now... he doesn't need Hurts anymore as perception is the roster built around Hurts is a very good one.   Perception from normal people who don't have a Hurts agenda

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4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah...you need to read a defense and make the throw.    

Why this obsession about a cannon for an arm?

IDK I would be thrilled to keep making 45 yard throws all day long LOL. Hurts max is around 50,after that you are begging to be picked off

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Nah...Howie outsmarted everyone.   Hurts is Howie's boy.    He even brought in his childhood friend as QB coach and then promoted him to OC.

Now he let Siri pick his guy... who isn't Hurts's boy and who isn't going to get us a 3rd round comp pick if he leaves. 

Another sign they stopped kissing Hurts ass.... Howie is back in favor now... he doesn't need Hurts anymore as perception is the roster built around Hurts is a very good one.   Perception from normal people who don't have a Hurts agenda

True,but you can't let your round 2 ride pine,so they had him play a few gadget plays. Reagor was a total bust when we could have had JJ

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

This makes for a great movie.

Heck yeah. Unbelievable achievement story. All happened by 25. I think he has some great chapters still to come for that movie. I just want to see him get that championship. Be nice if he earned an MVP too. Pretty much almost impossible for him to get it. He really had to fight and claw from nowhere to be in position for it in 2022. He had to be so far ahead of Mahomes…Allen and the other front runners. Lamar seems to have just struck in weak seasons with fabulous seasons. Otherwise they wouldn’t give it to him. It’s pretty much the Mahomes award to lose….but he didn’t deserve it last season. He had to learn and grow. AR had to really work hard to get him to become an accurate medium and short passer. They struggled while he struggled adjusting.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Here is a way to win... read the defense and make throws.  Not a complicated sport...as you so eloquently put.

Who has won more than Hurts? See you are missing what’s taking place right in front of your own eyes. Whats his record? He hasn’t been relying on a brilliant coach in AR or McVay. How often is anybody just schemed wide open? AR got two TDs in the SB just by scheme alone. Wide open.

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