2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They actually don’t. Look at the salaries. 

CB's make more than G's????(Oh yes)

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So you have zero issue taking what should be our best CB for the next decade and slowing his development while putting him in much more harms way?

OK so now you are shifting into harms way mode? How is playing snaps in a meaningful game slowing his development?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK so now you are shifting into harms way mode? How is playing snaps in a meaningful game slowing his development?

Covering JJ is easy to do????

IDK really with the people we have I would like to see some 52D

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you have zero issue taking what should be our best CB for the next decade and slowing his development while putting him in much more harms way?

I don't believe they would ask Q to blitz LOL(but he's fast enough to do that)

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just as an example(only), say we signed JJ. Would you have any issue with moving DSmith to the slot? If that's what works best? You have 3 top WR's and you can [place them wherever you want. Do you not place them at the points that give you the most yardage and TD's?

Bad example…since JJ I would think thrives in the slot the most. But I am seeing your point you are leading towards. I don’t view WR position equal to the CB position first off. But you see zero issue if we had S depth but not CB if that forced us playing Dawkins as a CB instead of S? I mean there has to be some balance to this. I’m more accepting of moving guys for team need that aren’t  special players. You need to field a whole team out there, I get. But still a side of me that thinks having a player like Dawkins utilized to his fullest also is what makes the team and D better.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't believe they would ask Q to blitz LOL(but he's fast enough to do that)

I was on vacation Friday and host turned on the game some before switching to the Phillies.... I saw him blitz...he got in there but didn't make the play.  Very quick.

Like we don’t have a third WR. So should we take our best RB, Saquan and put him at WR since we have more RB depth? Saquan would probably also be the third best WR on our team.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you have zero issue taking what should be our best CB for the next decade and slowing his development while putting him in much more harms way?

I don't think it's slowing development  that's your opinion.  

So DeJean has much better size to play the slot and I believe he ends up there,but he is not available and the season is starting,so you play who you have

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like we don’t have a third WR. So should we take our best RB, Saquan and put him at WR since we have more RB depth? Saquan would probably also be the third best WR on our team.

Dude...you really worry about everything in life.   

It's on record...you don't want Mitchell to play in the slot....we can move on. 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

CB's make more than G's????(Oh yes)

T is part of the Oline. Plus look at Dickerson contract….more than any CB.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Bad example…since JJ I would think thrives in the slot the most. But I am seeing your point you are leading towards. I don’t view WR position equal to the CB position first off. But you see zero issue if we had S depth but not CB if that forced us playing Dawkins as a CB instead of S? I mean there has to be some balance to this. I’m more accepting of moving guys for team need that aren’t  special players. You need to field a whole team out there, I get. But still a side of me that thinks having a player like Dawkins utilized to his fullest also is what makes the team and D better.

I believe Q in the slot is a temporary matter. He can still learn things there and will have that knowledge when we move him out,or he becomes a stellar slot coverage man. Either way the ultimate goal is success as a team.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

T is part of the Oline. Plus look at Dickerson contract….more than any CB.

I know it seems weird. But currently that’s the NFL Market situation.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Dude...you really worry about everything in life.   

I don’t blame you for skipping answering the actual question. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I believe Q in the slot is a temporary matter. He can still learn things there and will have that knowledge when we move him out,or he becomes a stellar slot coverage man. Either way the ultimate goal is success as a team.

Long term or short term is really what we’re talking about. You’ve always leaned towards a much more short term approach than me as it is really.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Bad example…since JJ I would think thrives in the slot the most. But I am seeing your point you are leading towards. I don’t view WR position equal to the CB position first off. But you see zero issue if we had S depth but not CB if that forced us playing Dawkins as a CB instead of S? I mean there has to be some balance to this. I’m more accepting of moving guys for team need that aren’t  special players. You need to field a whole team out there, I get. But still a side of me that thinks having a player like Dawkins utilized to his fullest also is what makes the team and D better.

No it's a good example because here is the next step. Can Q cover JJ in the SLOT? NO,not if he never learns to play the slot and that';s the point

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I was on vacation Friday and host turned on the game some before switching to the Phillies.... I saw him blitz...he got in there but didn't make the play.  Very quick.

Well Ham is worried that he is too small and will get mashed,but yeah he's also faster than the masher

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

T is part of the Oline. Plus look at Dickerson contract….more than any CB.

I said GUARDS LOL

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So DeJean has much better size to play the slot and I believe he ends up there,but he is not available and the season is starting,so you play who you have

That’s why this is all occurring. Well really you’re leaving out the bigger pieces of the puzzle. DeJean is fifth CB right now. The bigger pieces are that Ringo and Rodgers are playing tough ball outside at CB. Those two are really looking good right now. Personally I’ve always been real high on Ringo. I think this kid can really be our outside CB for years. But they might start this season with Rodgers and Slay outside instead of our two long term outside CBs in Ringo and Q. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Long term or short term is really what we’re talking about. You’ve always leaned towards a much more short term approach than me as it is really.

Nah I lean towards win now while you plan for the future. it's possible to do both 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s why this is all occurring. Well really you’re leaving out the bigger pieces of the puzzle. DeJean is fifth CB right now. The bigger pieces are that Ringo and Rodgers are playing tough ball outside at CB. Those two are really looking good right now. Personally I’ve always been real high on Ringo. I think this kid can really be our outside CB for years. But they might start this season with Rodgers and Slay outside instead of our two long term outside CBs in Ringo and Q. 

Slay won't be around forever so indeed Howie DID plan for the future?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well Ham is worried that he is too small and will get mashed,but yeah he's also faster than the masher

Let’s not pretend like any team wished to have Derrell Revis in the mix a ton against Oline and the rushing game. The value in a lockdown shutdown CB is his coverage. Not the LB part of the Slot job.

Look at GB at QB-win NOW and plan for the future. ARod had to sit behind Favre, Love had to sit behind ARod. You can win now and still have a future plan. You don't give up your current season for your future plans because the owners want to WIN NOW