28 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Crazy how a position like CB that looked like such a weakness a year ago is looking like a more strength this season.

Slay not the same as he once was but still a pretty good CB,

Rodgers-the forgotten man seems like he will start outside next to Slay.

Ringo- been neck and neck with Rodgers for the outside job gives us a solid 3rd option outside in case of injury 

Mitchell- who probably going to start in the slot.

DeJean- who got hurt coming back from hamstring but was in the mix before that injury.

And the bigger thing 4/5 of those guys are still young 

Ringo and Q  our best outside CBs

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Edelman was great at YAC creation. But he also was nearly unstoppable at getting open in a phone booth(a reference only old people can understand LOL).

Right,FIRST he was the clutch guy,the go to on 3rd and 4. The YAC was the fault of the defense.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not what I’m really thinking Moore is looking to do. Think he’s focused on quick hitting passing game added into the repertoire. 2.3 seconds and throw it.

Probably should always won’t quick plays that get the ball out fast Seattle done that, Saints have done that every team in the NFL has done this should be a huge stable….. but going to have plays that take longer to develop going to take shots plenty of opportunities to move the pocket and attack different areas of the field 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ringo and Q  our best outside CBs

Apparently not if Ringo is said to be losing to Rodgers and Q not even in the convo maybe they will be out best outside CBs but it isn’t this season and yes I trust Fangio way more then I trust yours 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you're talking about a guy getting open which is what I said LOL. The YAC will come,there are no "specialists". If you have the talent for getting open those yards will come. You treat them like they are 2 different guys. Why would we want a "non specialist"?  The big Power TE's will fight for YAC,the slot guy is usually small and fast,he will rely on speed to get open. You could put a bigger slot in if it's a mismatch like Wilson COULD be. Any player with a mismatch will get YAC,that is the point of having a twitch(aka cone and shuttle drills in the combine).Why do you think they run those?.

Like you quoted in my post stating we are talking about two different things. Like o stated also…you always are looking for YAC after a reception. I’m specifically talking about YAC Creation designed plays…of which I’m including reverse, jet sweeps, screens and such in.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You don't "create YAC",that is on the player to create. You can call plays that play to his strengths on an mis match. Shouldn't every player WR TE RB be a YAC guy? Isn't that what we pay them for? Doesn't every one of those guys try to gain as many yards as possible?

 Keep explaining over and over that yes we want everybody to get yards after they catch the ball….but this is not what I’m discussing or talking about. I’m talking about those group of plays that you only call based on expected YAC production.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Don’t forget old Wes Welker. 

Brady had all those slot guys,to keep the chains moving. Maybe why he is the GOAT. Like you said he could hit those guys in a phone booth. get the 4 yards and the first down, That is a slot first job,not YAC

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then behind the line it's the O line that "creates" YAC. That's executing a play not "creating YAC"

So throwing a WR screen in a stack outside the hashes is Oline dependent? Not at all

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

YAC Creation play….which Goedert runs very well. He can make something out of that nothing. That was the design of the play to take advantage of Goedert’s YAC creation.

They call that talent. Every receiver should want YAC,thats on the exploitation of defense. It's not YAC "creation" it's forcing a mismatch

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Brady had all those slot guys,to keep the chains moving. Maybe why he is the GOAT. Like you said he could hit those guys in a phone booth. get the 4 yards and the first down, That is a slot first job,not YAC

That’s why I’ve repeatedly kept explaining a guy that he a YAC Creator isn't a full time Slot WR that can perform all those duties. Not the same thing. But I can line a guy up in the Slot that can perform some of these YAC Creation plays from that area.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So throwing a WR screen in a stack outside the hashes is Oline dependent? Not at all

We used Goedert that way last year,how did that go?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

They call that talent. Every receiver should want YAC,thats on the exploitation of defense. It's not YAC "creation" it's forcing a mismatch

Talent specifically in YAC creation

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So throwing a WR screen in a stack outside the hashes is Oline dependent? Not at all

If Nobody blocks they can't get YAC because the DE's /S's will eat them alive with no blocking

Not sure how you aren’t comprehending this. Been tons of guys utilized in this way throat NFL history. Doesn’t mean they can run routes or track the ball downfield well, block…or all the responsibilities of any position other than just being good with the ball in their hands.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Talent specifically in YAC creation

OK find me the "YAC creation specialists" on the roster list. I'll wait. A position I have never heard of

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We used Goedert that way last year,how did that go?

Very well. Just totally struggled and had to pretty much throw that whole section of the playbook out when he missed any time.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK find me the "YAC creation specialists" on the roster list. I'll wait. A position I have never heard of

Do you have eyes?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Very well. Just totally struggled and had to pretty much throw that whole section of the playbook out when he missed any time.

LMAO no he stats dropped into the tank on those 1 yard sideline passes. he needs open field not boxed in like a sardine with the sideline as an added defender

Look any good coach is just looking to find any usage he can for each player on his team.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Do you have eyes?

Show me the roster position of "YAC specialist" I have eyes enough to see it's not there

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO no he stats dropped into the tank on those 1 yard sideline passes. he needs open field not boxed in like a sardine with the sideline as an added defender

But they key of making it conducive to YAC Creation is the WR cleared that area out for him to have some opening to create.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Do you have eyes?

What is the first job of ANY WR regardless of position?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Show me the roster position of "YAC specialist" I have eyes enough to see it's not there

Show me the position of TE Passer? It doesn’t exist but helped won us a SB.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

What is the first job of ANY WR regardless of position?

To suit up

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Show me the position of TE Passer? It doesn’t exist but helped won us a SB.

Where did I say TE passer? WTH is that?