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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So if Saquan catches the easy game sealing short gimme pass….does Hurts try to force a desperation comeback  downfield throw afterwards?

I didn’t like Hurts decision there. Our team was so very clearly shell shocked at home. But Hurts tried to force too much on that one. Stilll…never should have been a position our team was in. Saquan catch the pass. Siri run the ball. D do anything on the Falcons final drive. But yet….all ended in Hurts desperately forcing an ill advised interception,

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Mind you we only needed like 10-15 yards to get in Elliott fg range as well to be able to attempt a FG 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m stating facts he has 6 turnovers and 20 last season 

No…you’re straight try to use those against him…after you’ve already flat out admitted you didn’t believe they were all his fault. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…you’re straight try to use those against him…after you’ve already flat out admitted you didn’t believe they were all his fault. 

I 100% believe all 3 passes to Smith were on Hurts 

I believe the pass to AJ was on him 

The only turnover that I don’t believe wa son Hurts was the Jurgen snap 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again a pass he doesn’t have to force we have a timeout he could have checked down it wasn’t a Hail Mary pray throw… so no I’m not giving him a pass on that throw 

Wasn’t a good decision on his part….shouldn’t have never been in that position though….very clearly. Siri, Saquan…the whole D had to completely screw the pooch for that situation being down with thirty seconds left to begin with. But yes….after everybody totally blew it…he shouldn’t have thrown that pass.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t a good decision on his part….shouldn’t have never been in that position though….very clearly. Siri, Saquan…the whole D had to completely screw the pooch for that situation being down with thirty seconds left to begin with. But yes….after everybody totally blew it…he shouldn’t have thrown that pass.

You know…while Dickerson’s guy was hitting him while he was throwing 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

shouldn’t have never been in that position thoug

It doesn’t matter just because we shouldn’t be in that situation doesn’t give Hurts a pass for a bad decision 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I 100% believe all 3 passes to Smith were on Hurts 

I believe the pass to AJ was on him 

The only turnover that I don’t believe wa son Hurts was the Jurgen snap 

So even in your own words you only credit him with 5. Proving you’re clearly just trying to push Hurts Hating agenda by keep using the 6. Even though you don’t believe it…yourself.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It doesn’t matter just because we shouldn’t be in that situation doesn’t give Hurts a pass for a bad decision 

That’s what I said….so I agree. But you even acknowledge the others failures to create the situation that never should have existed….yet aren’t talking about blaming all those….just Hurts Hating.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So even in your own words you only credit him with 5. Proving you’re clearly just trying to push Hurts Hating agenda by keep using the 6. Even though you don’t believe it…yourself.

And not every turnover is on the other QBs I listed with the most turnovers so clearly I treated Hurts like every other QB.

So I’m not being biased unlike you 

So your problem with the Falcons game was that Hurts threw that interception with thirty seconds to go?

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And not every turnover is on the other QBs I listed with the most turnovers so clearly I treated Hurts like every other QB.

So I’m not being biased unlike you 

I didn’t mention any other QBs

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But you even acknowledge the others failures to create the situation that never should have existed….yet aren’t talking about blaming all those….just Hurts Hating.

Your are Fing stupid the other failures has nothing to do with his turnover…. And I not once blamed Hurts for the Falcons loss. They are two separate things 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So your problem with the Falcons game was that Hurts threw that interception with thirty seconds to go?

No my problem is the TURNOVERS!!!!! Over the course of the last year and an qtr. you know the stat he is leading in having more then any other QB in that span 

I know you can’t wrapped you head around it but I can see a problem with a player and not blame them for everything it’s shocking I know.

I fully aware Hurts was not the problem in the ATL game hence why I didn’t blame him for the loss but I can also still see the turnovers are an issue we still have not resolved since last season

If you can’t see the problem you need to hop off Hurts jock for a bit and look through some clear lenses 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your are Fing stupid the other failures has nothing to do with his turnover…. And I not once blamed Hurts for the Falcons loss. They are two separate things 

You’re b1tch1ng about Hurts turnovers. Keep using the stats against him. The six turnovers he has this season. You admitted Jurgens early snap….wasnt Hurts fault. That’s five. Admitting the Falcons ending shouldn’t have ever even existed. That’s down to four turnovers on Hurts. Which I’m disputing half of those being on him.

I’ve said all along Hurts needs to protect the ball better and improve in that area. So there really shouldn’t even be a disagreement between us. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You’re b1tch1ng about Hurts turnovers. Keep using the stats against him. The six turnovers he has this season. You admitted Jurgens early snap….wasnt Hurts fault. That’s five. Admitting the Falcons ending shouldn’t have ever even existed. That’s down to four turnovers on Hurts. Which I’m disputing half of those being on him.

Lmao what type of Fing stupid ass logic is this…. Oh becuase he should not be in that spot the bad decision doesn’t count…. 
 

The loss is on the coaching 100% but no it doesn’t excuse the bad decision at the end of the game that fucjing stupid 

I blame Hurts for that second interception in the opening fake. Him pointing to AJ and throwing a 50/50 jump ball to him in the Endzone. Poor decision. Yet if AJ doesn’t slip….is a 50/50 ball in the Endzone between AJ and a shorter CB not most of the time either ending in a TD for us …or at least an incompletion? Let’s be real here. AJ outjumps Alexander for that ball like 7 out of 10 times ….at least 2 of the other 3 he at least makes sure it’s not picked off.

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao what type of Fing stupid ass logic is this…. Oh becuase he should not be in that spot the bad decision doesn’t count…. 
 

The loss is on the coaching 100% but no it doesn’t excuse the bad decision at the end of the game that fucjing stupid 

I blamed him on a poor decision there. Clearly a very difficult position to be in.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I blamed him on a poor decision there. Clearly a very difficult position to be in.

He needed to get another 20 yards after that first completion… there were wiser options.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I blame Hurts for that second interception in the opening fake. Him pointing to AJ and throwing a 50/50 jump ball to him in the Endzone. Poor decision. Yet if AJ doesn’t slip….is a 50/50 ball in the Endzone between AJ and a shorter CB not most of the time either ending in a TD for us …or at least an incompletion? Let’s be real here. AJ outjumps Alexander for that ball like 7 out of 10 times ….at least 2 of the other 3 he at least makes sure it’s not picked off.

This right here you go on to oh it’s a bad decision but…. Let me make an excuses this is why Hurts leads the NFL in turnovers since last season and why I keep bringing it up since we aren’t fixing the problem .

 

Coaches must be making up all the same excuses as you just wasn’t Hurts fault don’t need to fix or improve anything 

I can’t think of a single QB in Eagles franchise history that gets the hurts excuses.

Wentz got destroyed for playing hero ball favoring 1 target and throwing to nobodies trying to make plays…. But now we are seeing Hurts do the same thing with a far better supporting cast and we want to give excuses

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This right here you go on to oh it’s a bad decision but…. Let me make an excuses this is why Hurts leads the NFL in turnovers since last season and why I keep bringing it up since we aren’t fixing the problem .

 

Coaches must be making up all the same excuses as you just wasn’t Hurts fault don’t need to fix or improve anything 

So you’re anti throwing 50/50 balls up to AJ against smaller DBs? I’m really not so much. This is true. I didn’t like how that play unfolded and was to nonchalant backyard football for me. But….most of the time if it comes down to throwing a 50/50 jump ball to AJ? I say go for it. He’s going to make the play more times than not…and at least make sure it’s not intercepted.

When he’s running with the ball….even when he thinks he’s past that rusher….he’s just got to protect the ball better. Really don’t like those mistakes and turnovers at all.

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