15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, my original post was about how sad it is to see our great cities getting destroyed and I mentioned graffiti.  In the same post I also said that the graffiti wasn't the worst thing that was happening because it isn't but it does leave a lasting impression.  I also didn't bring any politics in to it, I was merely stating that what's going on is really really sad because it is.  Looking at images post rioting do you look at them and say this is America?  Looks like downtown Bagdad to me.  The fact that people look at what's happening with the destruction...yes destruction is happening and just shrug like no big deal is also sad.  This is our country.  

How would we as Eagles fans feel if rioters took to the Linc, defaced as much of the stadium as they could with spray paint, broke in to the Pro Shop, stole all the merchandise and lit fires inside, came back outside broke as many windows as they could and spray painted all over the sidewalks?  What if they were just messages that Philly sucks and Dallas rules?  We would probably flip out, want people arrested and call for heads to roll.

I don't want to see our country divided anymore, I hate it.  I'm over it.  Republicans and Democrats both need to be better.  We as Americans, every race, every color need to be better.  

 

Let's put the robots in charge.  It will unite us.  

 

 

28 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

You are right in the sense that Federal authorities can act in accordance with Federal law.  Federal law enforcement officers may not just decide to enforce state laws without authority from the state.  It's the nature of a federalist system.  

They aren't. They have wiggle room. 

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

They aren't. They have wiggle room. 

Tenth Amendment.  

8 hours ago, Allhaildawk said:

If I go back a few pages am I going to see anyone arguing we should bring T.O. or A.B. To camp? 

Since you mentioned it... Id bring Owens in for a look. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Article/Terrell-Owens-Tyreek-Hill-race-46-years-old-runs-close-Kansas-City-Chiefs-149418469/Amp/

Anyone go to PE.com lately?

55 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, my original post was about how sad it is to see our great cities getting destroyed and I mentioned graffiti.  In the same post I also said that the graffiti wasn't the worst thing that was happening because it isn't but it does leave a lasting impression.  I also didn't bring any politics in to it, I was merely stating that what's going on is really really sad because it is.  Looking at images post rioting do you look at them and say this is America?  Looks like downtown Bagdad to me.  The fact that people look at what's happening with the destruction...yes destruction is happening and just shrug like no big deal is also sad.  This is our country.  

How would we as Eagles fans feel if rioters took to the Linc, defaced as much of the stadium as they could with spray paint, broke in to the Pro Shop, stole all the merchandise and lit fires inside, came back outside broke as many windows as they could and spray painted all over the sidewalks?  What if they were just messages that Philly sucks and Dallas rules?  We would probably flip out, want people arrested and call for heads to roll.

I don't want to see our country divided anymore, I hate it.  I'm over it.  Republicans and Democrats both need to be better.  We as Americans, every race, every color need to be better.  

 

On what site are you seeing this "massive destruction?"

A few storefronts and burned buildings a month ago, some graffiti, uh, we've seen far worse in the past.

Portland for example, the "rioting" is in a two block area, the rest of the city doesn't even know anything is happening.

Now I can take stock video images, focus only on a few sites out of context, then use that to push a "law and order" agenda, trying to scare people - but who would do that?

This ain't the 1960s, this is 2020, and 140K dead and rising is far more important than a few storefronts in terms of national issues.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

They aren't. They have wiggle room. 

No, they don't have "wiggle room."  They can't enforce state laws without authority from the state.  It is pretty simple.  

5 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I feel the same. I always look forward to the season starting, but I see this being a colossal cluster F, I think they should just shut it down and go on to 2021. I see little chance the season actually finishes. 

Oh, I think they''ll find a way to finish it, even if it means playing the Super Bowl in April and then turning right around and having a draft in May. But I'm not at all confident that they'll get all sixteen games in. What I don't want is to have some lame 9-game season like they had in '82 because of the strike. Winning another Super Bowl would be awesome, of course, but I wouldn't like the taint of it being a win with an implied asterisk attached.

Hoping for the best.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Anyone go to PE.com lately?

I did a couple weeks ago when I had to do some season ticket stuff. I might have to give it a check from time to time to look at roster stuff, maybe to see if they've assigned any uniform numbers yet to the free agents. 

15 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Tenth Amendment.  

The last time the Democrats banged the table for the Tenth Amendment was when they were trying to preserve slavery. 

16 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Anyone go to PE.com lately?

I do.  Fran Duffy stuff is good.  Unlike many in here, I have no qualms with Dave.  I read his stuff and watch the videos.  Like me, just a guy doing his job to earn a living and take care of his family.  

Bringing in the feds in Portland was purely political, if they wanted to protect the buildings, they would have stayed on the perimeter and coordinated with local police.

Instead they brought in untrained agents with no experience in crowd control and set them loose for photo ops, unfortunately, beating up a Navy veteran who was peacefully assembled is not the photo op they wanted.

The shame is the dispatch of federal agents to other cities was actually of value, if Barr hadn't timed it and publicized it as part of Trump's re-election campaign. It's not uncommon for the DOJ to coordinate federal resources with local government to aid in investigations, but it's not triumphed on national TV with attacks on Mayors. This of course, was designed purely for political purposes, since if the WH really was concerned about crime, they would have coordinated the effort with the Mayors, not pushed a "law and order" agenda. And a few hundred agents are not going to make a major dent in crime.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/politics/law-enforcement-trump-barr-politics/index.html

The problem for Trump of course, like everything he does these days, it's with a tin ear - he's trying to pull a page out of the Nixon "law and order" playbook (and Willie Horton in 1988) to scare white suburban voters, but it's a different world, who in the suburbs is shaking in their boots over crime? This is so blatantly political that it'll probably backfire.

 

15 minutes ago, austinfan said:

On what site are you seeing this "massive destruction?"

A few storefronts and burned buildings a month ago, some graffiti, uh, we've seen far worse in the past.

Portland for example, the "rioting" is in a two block area, the rest of the city doesn't even know anything is happening.

Now I can take stock video images, focus only on a few sites out of context, then use that to push a "law and order" agenda, trying to scare people - but who would do that?

This ain't the 1960s, this is 2020, and 140K dead and rising is far more important than a few storefronts in terms of national issues.

 

 

I watched the news...any news over the last few months.  A few storefronts, burned buildings no big deal just because we've seen worse in the past?  Geez man.  I haven't.  This is the first many of us have lived through something like this.

Portland was a 6 block radius and even so, does that make it OK to do it?  What about the people who's businesses were in there, apartments and condos were in there?  OK to totally disrupt their day-to-day

You took my initial message and took it a whole other direction and I'm not sure why.  It's OK to feel sad about seeing cities be it 1 building, 2 buildings or 6 blocks be burnt down, looted, painted up and then some.  I don't want to see anyone's business destroyed.  I didn't want this to be any sort of political.

 

Make the Blog Great again. 

27 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Make the Blog Great again. 

That washington team has built quite the D line with i believe 4 first rounders.

The rest of the team is a dumpster fire void of talent.

Couple good OL that never stay healthy but yeah theyre a bad team on paper.

Having said that never know what can happen on opening day and against division rivals and a shortened offseason.

I expect an ugly low scoring game or a blow out due to one team being under prepared.

At least the eagles system and coaches are established new coach in washington and rest of division mean acclimation period and without a stable off season looks like eagles have most organizational stability, hopefully that translates on the field and in the win column.

"The league has seemingly bent on the players’ health and safety concerns. It has agreed to daily COVID-19 testing"

Just cancel the season and give first responders daily tests.

56 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I did a couple weeks ago when I had to do some season ticket stuff. I might have to give it a check from time to time to look at roster stuff, maybe to see if they've assigned any uniform numbers yet to the free agents. 

Since the new site started here, I have not gone to the Eagles site as often as before.  Partly also due to the Covid-19 shut down of the team activities.  That in fact has also affected the discussions here to be less lively.  Season starting so far has seen a lot of issues, which is likely to linger.  After all, if there is a playing season is still up in the air.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

No, they don't have "wiggle room."  They can't enforce state laws without authority from the state.  It is pretty simple.  

Incorrect. First, they don't have to be there to enforce state law. There is an executive order protecting statues that allows them to operate in the cities. They are also allowed to protect federal property. In addition those traveling from out of state to commit a crime violate federal law. The list goes on. They have wiggle room to operate in these cities. It is pretty simple.

We’re now defending secret police. Land of the free 🇺🇸

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

Bringing in the feds in Portland was purely political, if they wanted to protect the buildings, they would have stayed on the perimeter and coordinated with local police.

Instead they brought in untrained agents with no experience in crowd control and set them loose for photo ops, unfortunately, beating up a Navy veteran who was peacefully assembled is not the photo op they wanted.

The shame is the dispatch of federal agents to other cities was actually of value, if Barr hadn't timed it and publicized it as part of Trump's re-election campaign. It's not uncommon for the DOJ to coordinate federal resources with local government to aid in investigations, but it's not triumphed on national TV with attacks on Mayors. This of course, was designed purely for political purposes, since if the WH really was concerned about crime, they would have coordinated the effort with the Mayors, not pushed a "law and order" agenda. And a few hundred agents are not going to make a major dent in crime.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/politics/law-enforcement-trump-barr-politics/index.html

The problem for Trump of course, like everything he does these days, it's with a tin ear - he's trying to pull a page out of the Nixon "law and order" playbook (and Willie Horton in 1988) to scare white suburban voters, but it's a different world, who in the suburbs is shaking in their boots over crime? This is so blatantly political that it'll probably backfire.

 

Quote

Trump, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot agree to deployment of federal agents

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/trump-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-agree-to-deployment-of-feds/

Stop posting about things you are ignorant about.

3 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

We’re now defending secret police. Land of the free 🇺🇸

Just because you say that they're a "secret police" force doesn't mean that it's true. 

I can just as easily declare that you, or anyone else, is a racist or a pedophile. My declaration doesn't make it true. 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

4 hours ago, greend said:

Wentzzzzz Suckszzzzzz and the Earthzzzz iszzzz Flatzzzzzz

 

feel better?

 

I feel much better now!  Thanks for the uplifting commentary.

51 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

The last time the Democrats banged the table for the Tenth Amendment was when they were trying to preserve slavery. 

How is this relevant to the discussion? Also, you're missing the democratic opposition to Federal troops being used to enforce desegregation.  Of course, you might then have to acknowledge the Republican party's Southern Strategy using the call for state rights to court white voters in the South. 

19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Incorrect. First, they don't have to be there to enforce state law. There is an executive order protecting statues that allows them to operate in the cities. They are also allowed to protect federal property. In addition those traveling from out of state to commit a crime violate federal law. The list goes on. They have wiggle room to operate in these cities. It is pretty simple.

Again - the question of whether they have authority to be there isn't what I was answering.  They have authority to enforce Federal law and protect federal property.  An executive order to protect state property isn't a federal law and while the question of Constitutionality of the Order again that would not be a state law.   They don't have authority to enforce state laws without state authority.  When they are enforcing federal laws, they need probable cause to make an arrest.  Patrolling the streets of a city is probably not within any of those Federal statutes.  Here is a good discussion of the topic from a law professor: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland  

 

25 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

Just because you say that they're a "secret police" force doesn't mean that it's true. 

I can just as easily declare that you, or anyone else, is a racist or a pedophile. My declaration doesn't make it true. 

Close your eyes it can't happen here