2 hours ago, What The F said:

Since you mentioned it... Id bring Owens in for a look. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Article/Terrell-Owens-Tyreek-Hill-race-46-years-old-runs-close-Kansas-City-Chiefs-149418469/Amp/

That's not close in the 40, not by a long shot

57 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

Since the new site started here, I have not gone to the Eagles site as often as before.  Partly also due to the Covid-19 shut down of the team activities.  That in fact has also affected the discussions here to be less lively.  Season starting so far has seen a lot of issues, which is likely to linger.  After all, if there is a playing season is still up in the air.

Manu will keep us posted with tweets

30 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

 

 

I feel much better now!  Thanks for the uplifting commentary.

You bet.

we're all in this together

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

How is this relevant to the discussion? Also, you're missing the democratic opposition to Federal troops being used to enforce desegregation.  Of course, you might then have to acknowledge the Republican party's Southern Strategy using the call for state rights to court white voters in the South. 

Again - the question of whether they have authority to be there isn't what I was answering.  They have authority to enforce Federal law and protect federal property.  An executive order to protect state property isn't a federal law and while the question of Constitutionality of the Order again that would not be a state law.   They don't have authority to enforce state laws without state authority.  When they are enforcing federal laws, they need probable cause to make an arrest.  Patrolling the streets of a city is probably not within any of those Federal statutes.  Here is a good discussion of the topic from a law professor: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland  

The jurisdiction doesn't come from an Executive Order. It comes from US Code, and you'd be surprised to see which Democrats voted for it. As for the "secret police" patrolling the streets, I'll go back to my previous comment...just because you say something it doesn't mean that it's true. And lastly, LawFare is perhaps the most biased organization in the country. LawFare is progressive activism through the means of manipulating the judicial system. They're a complete joke. 

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

On what site are you seeing this "massive destruction?"

A few storefronts and burned buildings a month ago, some graffiti, uh, we've seen far worse in the past.

Portland for example, the "rioting" is in a two block area, the rest of the city doesn't even know anything is happening.

Now I can take stock video images, focus only on a few sites out of context, then use that to push a "law and order" agenda, trying to scare people - but who would do that?

This ain't the 1960s, this is 2020, and 140K dead and rising is far more important than a few storefronts in terms of national issues.

 

 

Some of the stock footage they’re using is also from Ukraine during an actual invasion. I can speak for dc. Nothing here is destroyed. Storefronts were repaired within days and everything is back to (Covid) normal. As for me federal law enforcement, there is no jurisdiction and HSI is a complete joke searching for a mission

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

On what site are you seeing this "massive destruction?"

A few storefronts and burned buildings a month ago, some graffiti, uh, we've seen far worse in the past.

Portland for example, the "rioting" is in a two block area, the rest of the city doesn't even know anything is happening.

Now I can take stock video images, focus only on a few sites out of context, then use that to push a "law and order" agenda, trying to scare people - but who would do that?

This ain't the 1960s, this is 2020, and 140K dead and rising is far more important than a few storefronts in terms of national issues.

 

 

Some of the stock footage they’re using is also from Ukraine during an actual invasion. I can speak for dc. Nothing here is destroyed. Storefronts were repaired within days and everything is back to (Covid) normal. As for me federal law enforcement, there is no jurisdiction and HSI is a complete joke searching for a mission

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

On what site are you seeing this "massive destruction?"

A few storefronts and burned buildings a month ago, some graffiti, uh, we've seen far worse in the past.

Portland for example, the "rioting" is in a two block area, the rest of the city doesn't even know anything is happening.

Now I can take stock video images, focus only on a few sites out of context, then use that to push a "law and order" agenda, trying to scare people - but who would do that?

This ain't the 1960s, this is 2020, and 140K dead and rising is far more important than a few storefronts in terms of national issues.

 

 

Some of the stock footage they’re using is also from Ukraine during an actual invasion. I can speak for dc. Nothing here is destroyed. Storefronts were repaired within days and everything is back to (Covid) normal. As for me federal law enforcement, there is no jurisdiction and HSI is a complete joke searching for a mission

 

4 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

Wonder how long it takes Snyder to name a dog?

8 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

30 minutes ago, greend said:

That's not close in the 40, not by a long shot

When a small burner runs a 4.37 40 and a   46 year old thats 6'3  215lb guy is 1 step behind him, thats close enough for me. 

1 minute ago, What The F said:

When a small burner runs a 4.36 40 and a   46 year old thats 6'3  215lb guy is 1 step behind him, thats close enough for me. 

He's more than a step and it's the 40. Don't get me wrong that's very fast for a 46 y.o. 6'0+, 200+ guy, but he's not getting open in the nfl.

55 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/trump-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-agree-to-deployment-of-feds/

Stop posting about things you are ignorant about.

No, that was exactly my point, this is nothing new, ATF and DOJ often coordinate with Mayors (actually the police with the Mayor's blessing).

What you never see is the President attacking those Mayors then declaring he'll send in federal officers to "solve the crime problem."

That's egregious political nonsense - for one thing Chicago has 12,515 officers, 200 federal agents, most of whom aren't familiar with the city, won't solve anything.

And the NY Post is a dubious source for anything - it's owned by Rupert Murdoch who is famous for manipulating the news for political purposes.

For one thing, the Post left out the details, which you could have obtained by reading the Chicago Tribune article:

 

City Hall disclosed the call with Trump, detailing in a statement the city’s understanding of the arrangement.

Trump "reached out to Mayor Lightfoot this evening to confirm that he plans to send federal resources to Chicago to supplement ongoing federal investigations pertaining to violent crime. The conversation was brief and straightforward.

"Mayor Lightfoot maintains that all resources will be investigatory in nature and be coordinated through the U.S. Attorney’s office.

"The Mayor has made clear that if there is any deviation from what has been announced, we will pursue all available legal options to protect Chicagoans.”

The agents will work in partnership with Chicago police and Lightfoot’s office under the direction of U.S. Attorney John Lausch, who Lightfoot, a former federal prosecutor, knows and trusts.

In an exclusive interview with the Chicago Sun-Times, before Trump’s announcement, Lausch, at the the White House, said the more than 200 extra agents "will be folded into the current FBI, ATF, DEA and (Department of) Homeland Security teams that are already working in Chicago with the Chicago Police Department and the other local and state law enforcement.”

Trump is making "law and order” a central campaign theme. At the announcement, he blasted what he asserted was a "radical movement to defund, dismantle and dissolve our police departments,” things Lightfoot is not doing. He also deplored the "Chicago politicians” who support sanctuary cities.

Trump then totally misrepresented Lightfoot’s position. Said Trump, "Chicago is a disaster. The mayor is saying, "Don’t come in.” The mayor is telling us not to come in. At some point, we can void that if we have to, but we — and we may have to, at some — because it’s out of control. ...She’s a — she’s a Democrat. I’m going to be nice. She’s a Democrat. She’s making a big mistake. People are dying in Chicago and other cities, and we can solve the problem.”

 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/7/22/21334471/operation-legend-chicago-federal-agents-trump

5 minutes ago, greend said:

He's more than a step and it's the 40. Don't get me wrong that's very fast for a 46 y.o. 6'0+, 200+ guy, but he's not getting open in the nfl.

Mike Evans ran a 4.53.  T.O. is faster then that, and Mike seems to not have issues getting open.  Speed isnt everything. But combined with size is a nasty combo. 

35 minutes ago, greend said:

we're all in this together

unprecedented times

 

 

Can't we all just laugh at the pure incompetence that is the Washington Football Team?

50 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

How is this relevant to the discussion? Also, you're missing the democratic opposition to Federal troops being used to enforce desegregation.  Of course, you might then have to acknowledge the Republican party's Southern Strategy using the call for state rights to court white voters in the South. 

Again - the question of whether they have authority to be there isn't what I was answering.  They have authority to enforce Federal law and protect federal property.  An executive order to protect state property isn't a federal law and while the question of Constitutionality of the Order again that would not be a state law.   They don't have authority to enforce state laws without state authority.  When they are enforcing federal laws, they need probable cause to make an arrest.  Patrolling the streets of a city is probably not within any of those Federal statutes.  Here is a good discussion of the topic from a law professor: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland  

So basically you jumped into a conversation for no reason. I was mocking him because there is a difference between state and federal, so your whole point is that I was right. Thanks. I never said they were there to enforce state law. He was saying state law says state LEO have to be identified. That doesn't apply to feds.The rest of this is pointless. 

1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

"The league has seemingly bent on the players’ health and safety concerns. It has agreed to daily COVID-19 testing"

Just cancel the season and give first responders daily tests.

Or better yet, if they want to show they care about the black community, instead of playing the "black national anthem" or donating money to questionable organizations, why don't they provide testing for every African American in the country?  AA are at a higher risk and this would be a much bigger help if you ask me.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Can't we all just laugh at the pure incompetence that is the Washington Football Team?

So they are going with the Alabama look. 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

So they are going with the Alabama look. 

In their defense they do have 9 bama players on the roster. 

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So they are going with the Alabama look. 

Should have kept the helmet stripe.

49 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

Abbreviated as wasteam.  

29 minutes ago, What The F said:

Mike Evans ran a 4.53.  T.O. is faster then that, and Mike seems to not have issues getting open.  Speed isnt everything. But combined with size is a nasty combo. 

Just so I get this right. You are advocating bringing T.O. in for a tryout? 46 y.o. T.O. ? 

56 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

The jurisdiction doesn't come from an Executive Order. It comes from US Code, and you'd be surprised to see which Democrats voted for it. As for the "secret police" patrolling the streets, I'll go back to my previous comment...just because you say something it doesn't mean that it's true. And lastly, LawFare is perhaps the most biased organization in the country. LawFare is progressive activism through the means of manipulating the judicial system. They're a complete joke. 

The question isn't jurisdiction.  It is whether they can enforce state law which they cannot without state authority.  If they are enforcing Federal law, then they can act.   I think you are misunderstanding my point.  

I am not sure why you think LawFare is biased. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/lawfare-blog/  Steve Vladeck is a law professor of some renown.   If you have some other source, I would be happy to read it.  

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Stafford is overrated every year. Dude has all the arm talent in the world is a solid dude but not a winner, not sure if him or Lions or both.

Where is Matty Ice?

Also im drawing a blank who is Jackson?