1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Safety, or Howell/Lawrence don't care of those edges are considered a reach. Those are the guys.

Like Terrell a lot but Coop isn't moving. Also, Chris Johnson should be ranked ahead of Terrell.

Howell, CON: he gives me the Bryce Huff heebee-jeebees due to the extremely short armlength, and I'd worry that he might not ever become a 3-down player due to his inability to stack/shed versus longer OLmen. PRO: we aren't paying him $17M/yr and expecting him to be a starter right away and we have Jalyx/Nolan to play on early downs. Also, he plays almost exclusively from a 2pt stance which was real problem for Huff who as a 4pt specialist couldn't even show the veneer of dropping into coverage without his game falling apart.

Lawrence, PRO: freakbeast CON: where's the production, something is missing as he plays with a hot motor and seems to have some moves in his arsenal.

Terrell, honestly I'd look to move him to safety before Dejean - but in this draft the safety class is strong enough, you don't really have to make these compromises.

9 minutes ago, JamesK said:

There are other pictures of them coming out now. Some people are suggesting that a PI was hired by her husband.

I'm wondering how common this might be in the sports world, but it was these two that got caught.

It's come out that

1) It's not a known paparazzi that took the photos

2) The photos were being shopped for "4 figures"

The first lends me to think it was a PI, but the second kind of kills that idea IMO.

31 minutes ago, TEW said:

I absolutely HATE the entire concept of moving DeJean.

He’s the best nickel corner in the NFL, and it’s not particularly close. Slot WRs now routinely are the primary weapon of an offense, and so the NCB probably has the most direct impact of any DB on the field because of the volume of targets they face and their involvement in the run game.

Why in the world would you move the best player in the entire NFL from his natural high impact position to an unnatural position which has less impact on the game in order to accommodate a lesser talented rookie?

It makes absolutely zero sense. We need a safety, not a NCB. This is one of the deepest safety classes in recent memory. So draft a safety. Not a DeJean replacement. A safety.

DeJean is a lockdown CB and a great run defender. Playing safety in Fangio's system would take him away from the LOS. Cover 6 would probably have him playing deep coverage on a slot receiver if that receiver goes deep. He would not be covering anyone close to the line. He would not have the opportunity to get to the flat on outlet receivers which is where we have seen him so effectively tackle and prevent 3rd down conversions. Sure, he would be an effective safety but it would be like moving a lead off hitter to the 5th spot in the batting line up.

19 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I heard the same thing on the radio (NFL radio I think) recently with an oldhead talking - Bill Polian maybe. The Eagles have a desperate need at corner - when the host reminded him that they have not only Quinyon and DeJean but that they signed Tariq Woolen this offseason, it was clear that he had ZERO idea of any of that. These guys just throw crap at the wall and hope something sticks - very few of them actually go beyond scratching the surface on any team.

I'm all about drafting for value so if the right CB was there anywhere past round one I would be fine with it. I actually wouldn't be suprised if they drafted an outside corner somewhere in the round 3-5 range with Woolen on a one year deal and not much depth there. That being said, CB is nowhere the team's biggest need. I would say OL, Edge, S, and WR are all bigger needs and you can argue for TE as well.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

DeJean is a lockdown CB and a great run defender. Playing safety in Fangio's system would take him away from the LOS. Cover 6 would probably have him playing deep coverage on a slot receiver if that receiver goes deep. He would not be covering anyone close to the line. He would not have the opportunity to get to the flat on outlet receivers which is where we have seen him so effectively tackle and prevent 3rd down conversions. Sure, he would be an effective safety but it would be like moving a lead off hitter to the 5th spot in the batting line up.

I think he would be a great safety. I would also prefer to keep him right where he is as I think he is able to impact the defense more there. I was just throwing out an outside the box idea for discussions sake and I don't hate the idea of him at safety as others seem to. I would feel the same way though if someone suggested moving him outside long term, so I get it.

15 minutes ago, paco said:

It's come out that

1) It's not a known paparazzi that took the photos

2) The photos were being shopped for "4 figures"

The first lends me to think it was a PI, but the second kind of kills that idea IMO.

I don't really care all that much other than to say I feel bad for their spouses and children, and that they are both FN losers. That being said and I shouldn't have to state the obvious (some people are trying to say not to judge the situation) based on the pictures, where they were, how far they traveled to get there, etc anyone with half a FN brain can see that they are having "relations." Friends don't sneak off to remote places like that, hold hands, hug, or look at each other that way.

15 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

If those were pictures of Vrabel and Daniel Jeremiah sitting by the pool together it would be the most normal picture ever. If they were lightly hugging that’s not really anything. The hand in hand thing was a bit odd, but still wouldn’t be red alerts everywhere. There’s a strong possibility this is absolutely nothing… or it’s everything. But just firing her just in case is stupid

Bro, lol, please tell me you aren't really that gullible. Those two are clearly banging.

3 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I don't really care all that much other than to say I feel bad for their spouses and children, and that they are both FN losers. That being said and I shouldn't have to state the obvious (some people are trying to say not to judge the situation) based on the pictures, where they were, how far they traveled to get there, etc anyone with half a FN brain can see that they are having "relations." Friends don't sneak off to remote places like that, hold hands, hug, or look at each other that way.

Yep. More and more photos are coming out; this isn't going away and perhaps if Russini wasn't so disparaging about her husband, perhaps it would have been a bullet point on an off season dirt sheet.

On 4/9/2026 at 8:05 AM, HazletonEagle said:

Great, great, great discussions. And finally a video with at least a few guys I havent looked in to yet.

Thanks for sharing. Lots of great stuff in there. I think the most interesting thing is just how polarizing all of the first round OL are which could really lead to some crazy stuff on draft night.

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Yep. More and more photos are coming out; this isn't going away and perhaps if Russini wasn't so disparaging about her husband, perhaps it would have been a bullet point on an off season dirt sheet.

Total FN losers. I hope their spouses get the proof they need to take them to the cleaners in a divorce.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

You're not concerned that he's 24 and basically ran go routes at North Dakota? I am not sure that we have the type of coaching staff that can develop him as a player.

Hes a likely 3rd round pick, who I would be comfortable taking in the 2nd. He is not yet 24, although he is a 5th year senior, the age doesnt concern me as much- A) at the WR position, and B) potentially in the 3rd round.

The route tree doesnt concern me in the slightest. My expectation for any WR in this draft is as a role player. There is not a single WR in this draft that you can confidently say he will be your #1 WR day 1 of his career. We are looking at WR2s that you hope can develop in to #1s. Or guys that you just know are going to fill a role, and do that role excellently, forever as your 2nd or 3rd option on offense.

With that said, we do not need a #1 WR either. After we trade Brown, we will still have DeVonta Smith. He is our WR1.

Im looking at Lance, with his speed as an immediate starter, and deep threat to stretch the field opening up the underneath passing game windows, and helping the run game. Lance will have a DeSean Jackson-like effect on defenses respecting his speed.

He will be like Watson with an immediate impact in the receiving game, and will also immediately impact the way defensive coordinators have to prepare for our offense. And if he takes a few years to really polish his game, like Watson did, call him 24 if you like, and say it takes him 3 years.... hes still 27. Prime time for a WR. Hes not only going to be a 1 contract player.

14 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

My guy has been Bryce Lance. It seems lazy because same school, but hes literally another Christian Watson, however, healthier and better hands. He has the highest upside of any WR in this class imo.

I also love Fields despite the slower 40. If youre looking for an AJ Brown, big possession WR who can also physically outmatch CBs and also get down field.

And, I came around to liking Concepcion, but Id prefer one of the 2 aforementioned bigger X types over that jitterbug underneath RAC type that Concepcion is. At least early in the draft.

I wonder. One of the criticisms of him is he is not quick out of his breaks. Howie specifically mentioned that with the signing of Hollywood and Moore. (And I believe why Dotson wasn’t extended). Maybe as a Day 3 gamble. I believe that is why Douglas was a 30 visit. They are looking for size and quickness as well as speed and they needed to see if Douglas could break quick.

6 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Outside the box idea:

Draft Avieon Terrell at 23 and move Coop to safety full time. The more I look into Terrell the more I like him and I think Cooper could possibly be even better at safety. Not nearly as outside the box but I am all for drafting Thieneman or EMW as well.

I'm currently in the mode of looking for something different at 23 because unless someone falls none of the OL, Edge Rushers, or WR's expected to be there excite me all that much. I feel like even at 23 drafting someone like Boston, Cooper, Lomu, Miller, Parker, etc would be really underwhelming and not Eagles like. Premium positions or not, I would rather draft someone with massive upside than settle for filling a need. Howie hasn't drafted for need since Reagor and everything changed for him as a drafter since that failure so I have no reason to believe he will go back to that. I could see Proctor, Iheanachor, Faulk , or Tyson because they do have upside but these other guys are just meh.

Thoughts??

Let's keep that idea outside the box. Don't want to move Coop from a spot he's all world at. Terrell might even fall into the 2nd round after his 4.64 40 time at his pro day. Prefer 1st round corner to be over 6 foot also and around 195-200 not 185.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I wonder. One of the criticisms of him is he is not quick out of his breaks. Howie specifically mentioned that with the signing of Hollywood and Moore. (And I believe why Dotson wasn’t extended). Maybe as a Day 3 gamble. I believe that is why Douglas was a 30 visit. They are looking for size and quickness as well as speed and they needed to see if Douglas could break quick.

Id be wary of surface "separation" critiques. So many people get it wrong because they dont consider ball placement taking away that separation that the WR actually did earn. Its like Tee Higgins all over again. People said he didnt separate when he clearly did. They doubted him, and they were wrong. It was all about the ball placement undoing the work Higgins already accomplished in his routes. Bryce Lance isnt playing with great accurate QBs.

Lance hit the 7.00 3 cone threshold. Its adequate. Especially when you consider he is over 6'3''.

Brugler says mediocre separation quickness, which is true based on the 3 cone. But says Lance comes off the line tall, and needs to use better sink to get more efficient in his breaks.

Its a teachable skill.

Id also say, hes more than just a fast 40 guy. Not all fast 40s also come with the ridiculously quick 10 yard time. Lance has a 1.49 10 yard split. Hes not a tall build up speed guy. Hes like a speed bike off the starting line. Immediate acceleration that CBs will struggle to match.

They going to naturally have to give him a cushion which bakes in separation for him without even doing anything. Or theyre going to get burnt off the line and there will be quick separation.

His height, combined with 32'' arms and big hands means length is at play too. He positions himself well, and the QB can put the ball away from the defender. Again, thats separation baked in even when it doesnt look like its there.

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

I just saw the funniest thing on the chat for ITB's recent video breaking down their biggest draft needs. They had CB as the teams biggest need and someone rightfully called them out for how silly that is with Quinyon and Dejean and they said Dejean is a nickel, not a CB, LMAO.

ITB wasn't bad when Doug was here. Once he and his staff left, they lost their sources and it's been trash ever since.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I heard the same thing on the radio (NFL radio I think) recently with an oldhead talking - Bill Polian maybe. The Eagles have a desperate need at corner - when the host reminded him that they have not only Quinyon and DeJean but that they signed Tariq Woolen this offseason, it was clear that he had ZERO idea of any of that. These guys just throw crap at the wall and hope something sticks - very few of them actually go beyond scratching the surface on any team.

I think CB is more need than realized. Jones, Ringo, Bennett and Woolen are on one year contracts. (As are Gray, Epps, Carter at S). And Ringo and Bennett are principally the back ups. As I have played with draft simulators, sometimes the BPA at 23 is a CB. I believe ideal for Fangio is three NB/S in the middle of the secondary. Allows for more disguise. A lot of MOD and Match capabilities added. I do wonder if the ideal OCB is one that has MEG capabilities, like Q. Not sure that is Woolen although he plays Man well so there are options.

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

Yep. More and more photos are coming out; this isn't going away and perhaps if Russini wasn't so disparaging about her husband, perhaps it would have been a bullet point on an off season dirt sheet.

IMO, any guy (other than Shefter or Rapaport) would have been fired already. How is anybody supposed to take her reporting seriously at this point?

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think CB is more need than realized. Jones, Ringo, Bennett and Woolen are on one year contracts. (As are Gray, Epps, Carter at S). And Ringo and Bennett are principally the back ups. As I have played with draft simulators, sometimes the BPA at 23 is a CB. I believe ideal for Fangio is three NB/S in the middle of the secondary. Allows for more disguise. A lot of MOD and Match capabilities added. I do wonder if the ideal OCB is one that has MEG capabilities, like Q. Not sure that is Woolen although he plays Man well so there are options.

CB is certainly a need, not sure if this is the best class for it, but either Woolen plays well and leaves to get paid -or- he doesn't and we are back to patching.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

I think CB is more need than realized. Jones, Ringo, Bennett and Woolen are on one year contracts. (As are Gray, Epps, Carter at S). And Ringo and Bennett are principally the back ups. As I have played with draft simulators, sometimes the BPA at 23 is a CB. I believe ideal for Fangio is three NB/S in the middle of the secondary. Allows for more disguise. A lot of MOD and Match capabilities added. I do wonder if the ideal OCB is one that has MEG capabilities, like Q. Not sure that is Woolen although he plays Man well so there are options.

A future starting CB is a need because Woolen probably isnt here past this year. He either needs benching again, or he is all pro and we cant pay him. Hes a bandaid and the need still exists. Its just not super urgent because the spot is filled this year.

Im just not sure Id take one in round 1 and have that player basically sit this year out other than minimal playing time as CB4. I like instant impact in round 1.

There are good day 2 CBs. And there are even day 3 scheme fits like Masses, Prysock, and Demmings.

10 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Some guy who covers the Pats was on WIP and said the Pats remain firm on their price of a 2nd round pick and pick swap for Brown. He also said he thinks the deal will get done on June 2nd. He must be a moron if he thinks Howie is trading Brown for a 2nd, unless it's a conditional 2nd that can easily become a 1st which he didn't mention.

2nd in 2027 and pick swap is just not enough for AJ. We'd get the same price at the 2026 trade deadline.

1 hour ago, paco said:

It's come out that

1) It's not a known paparazzi that took the photos

2) The photos were being shopped for "4 figures"

The first lends me to think it was a PI, but the second kind of kills that idea IMO.

I'm more surprised TMZ turned down the photos. Those leaches post any and everything.

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

2nd in 2027 and pick swap is just not enough for AJ. We'd get the same price at the 2026 trade deadline.

Difference is if we get the same price at the deadline, Eagles are out $30M for the bonus they would have to pay for the 8 or 9 games he'd be an Eagle.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

A future starting CB is a need because Woolen probably isnt here past this year. He either needs benching again, or he is all pro and we cant pay him. Hes a bandaid and the need still exists. Its just not super urgent because the spot is filled this year.

Im just not sure Id take one in round 1 and have that player basically sit this year out other than minimal playing time as CB4. I like instant impact in round 1.

There are good day 2 CBs. And there are even day 3 scheme fits like Masses, Prysock, and Demmings.

I know I don't have to tell you the draft is for future roster construction and not patching holes.

I predict the Eagles will use their Day 1 and 2 picks on some combination of:

OL (Lane and/or Dickerson of the future),

WR (AJ Brown of the future)

TE (Goedert of the future),

EDGE (keep a rotation of EDGE rushers added to Smith/Hunt).

CB could be a Day 2 pick based on what @BigEFly and you've laid out.

WR in RD2 the sweet spot.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I'm more surprised TMZ turned down the photos. Those leaches post any and everything.

Apparently they were considering buying them, and then the NY Post swooped in and bought them. So they didn't say no, they just didn't act quickly enough.