2 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Not being pessimistic, just realistic.

The Eagles fan mantra!

(I agree about Edge)

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

I missed the context/provenance of this post. Who is "he”?

I thought the cowpads cheerleader would give it away. Cooper DeJean.

2 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m not buying the edge rushers and you can argue that that’s the most important part of any defense. Greenard over Sweat??He hasn’t practiced yet and BG was having a productive campaign that season before getting injured in the Rams game. Ebiketit and Espensa… well they aren’t even worth trying to spell their names right.

Last year Smith and Hunt as the starters clearly didn’t work and we had to make a desperate trade and bring back BG.

Not being pessimistic, just realistic.

I'm more optimistic. You are correct about last season. No argument. The argument for optimism is that in pro sports, for the most part, one season is not a predictor of the next season. Raleigh for the Mariners is the current, mist obvious example. Dean was a good one for the Eagles recently. Davis too. I think if realism is your point of view, relying on the past to predict the future ( for pro athlete performance) can be unreliable. We can make arguments on both sides, but it is very uncommon for guys to really good every season. It's more common for them to fluctuate. My optimism for DE is they fluctuate to pretty good this season.

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I thought the cowpads cheerleader would give it away. Cooper DeJean.

Ive been worried about his party ways because 1 bad game changes fans attitude towards him when they find out what hes been up to off the field.

But he keeps preforming.

More than anything this year, Im concerned about the mass he put on for his pretend safety role affecting his ability to be quick enough in the slot.

First preseason game, Mannion on the sidelines.

Second preseason game, Mannion in the booth.

Open practice at the Linc, Mannion on the sidelines.

Wonder if we get him in the booth or sidelines tonight. If on the sidelines then I think that basically tells us he plans to be on the sidelines to open the season.

Something I think has a chance of happening.

Andy Dalton gets cut and everyone is like "Oh, cool, so Tanner beat him out for the QB2 spot... Hurts, Tanner, Payton is the QB room." And then the next day Howie trades Tanner and a late round pick for either Anthony Richardson or JJ McCarthy.

Reasons:

Howie loves going after and buying low on former first rounders to try to rebuild their value or find hidden gems.

Tanner will be gone after the season, so I still think Howie will view him as an expiring asset and try to flip him for something.

They were hesitant to give Hurts a new deal this offseason so Howie will be turning over every leaf to try to hedge in case Hurts doesn't have a great year.

Not saying I would do those deals, I think Richardson and McCarthy blow, but I could see everyone thinking Tanner made the team and then him being traded for one of those guys hours later.

2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Game today - aside from K/P/QB is anybody playing today going to make the 53 here?

Not just the bottom of the 53 in play tonight, the 70 man roster too. Also possible trade candidates. Plus the scouting staff has been reviewing players from all 31 other camps and those PS games for possible acquisitions, signings and tryouts. Vet guarantees may also factor into whether a player makes the 53. Take Jones, for example. Most Howie thing to do is cut him and resign him after Week 1. Given he hasn’t practiced a lot, there is minimal risk. Fill that spot with Gushiken, then waive him to move to the PS when other teams have finalized their rosters. There is risk.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Something I think has a chance of happening.

Andy Dalton gets cut and everyone is like "Oh, cool, so Tanner beat him out for the QB2 spot... Hurts, Tanner, Payton is the QB room." And then the next day Howie trades Tanner and a late round pick for either Anthony Richardson or JJ McCarthy.

Reasons:

Howie loves going after and buying low on former first rounders to try to rebuild their value or find hidden gems.

Tanner will be gone after the season, so I still think Howie will view him as an expiring asset and try to flip him for something.

They were hesitant to give Hurts a new deal this offseason so Howie will be turning over every leaf to try to hedge in case Hurts doesn't have a great year.

Not saying I would do those deals, I think Richardson and McCarthy blow, but I could see everyone thinking Tanner made the team and then him being traded for one of those guys hours later.

They suck but we all thought Sam sucked when he left the Jets and now he's doing well in Seattle. Chances are they would still suck here but there is a slim chance a better organization could bring more out of them. Rare, but it happens. I'd stick with McKee, though

Wonder if there is any chance we get to see Lemon return a punt tonight. Have to guess he will be our punt returner unless they are planning to practice squad Covey and call him up week 1.

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

They suck but we all thought Sam sucked when he left the Jets and now he's doing well in Seattle. Chances are they would still suck here but there is a slim chance a better organization could bring more out of them. Rare, but it happens. I'd stick with McKee, though

Richardson is terrible and i also dont want to hear TEW slobbing on him

10 hours ago, devpool said:

The only people who actually care about preseason are degenerate gamblers. For everyone else it's just a 3 hour long practice played primarily by guys you'll never hear of again in 2 weeks

Nah us draftniks like watching the developmental kids

Plus i am trying to get educated on the new O scheme

17 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Something I think has a chance of happening.

Andy Dalton gets cut and everyone is like "Oh, cool, so Tanner beat him out for the QB2 spot... Hurts, Tanner, Payton is the QB room." And then the next day Howie trades Tanner and a late round pick for either Anthony Richardson or JJ McCarthy.

Reasons:

Howie loves going after and buying low on former first rounders to try to rebuild their value or find hidden gems.

Tanner will be gone after the season, so I still think Howie will view him as an expiring asset and try to flip him for something.

They were hesitant to give Hurts a new deal this offseason so Howie will be turning over every leaf to try to hedge in case Hurts doesn't have a great year.

Not saying I would do those deals, I think Richardson and McCarthy blow, but I could see everyone thinking Tanner made the team and then him being traded for one of those guys hours later.

There’s no way we go into the season with JJ or Richardson and Payton as the backups.

Zero chance.

Payton is the development project. Ahead of him Howie wants a guy they think is reliable to win 2/4 games if Hurt’s gets injured.

Now, if Payton looks great by year’s end then maybe next offseason they’d look to promote him to #2 and bring in JJ or Richardson as competition. But no chance they do it this year.

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Richardson is terrible and i also dont want to hear TEW slobbing on him

Colts ruined him just like they ruined Luck.

3 minutes ago, TEW said:

Colts ruined him just like they ruined Luck.

No, he never had the mental traits needed. Kid was raw and pretty dumb

QB is the least dependent on physical traits and the most on mental traits.

But that would require you admitting you were wrong and i think we all know the circular argument that becomes

I still think McKee can be a good backup. He's never played with the starters. He didn't look good last year when he played but Patullo was garbage and O line depth wasn't great. If the coaches believe in him as the #2 I'm good with it.

I think they lost a lot of confidence in McKee. If not, they wouldn't have brought in Dalton.

Some people think bringing Dalton in was some elaborate move to flip him for a pick later, and I'm certain that is not true. At the absolute most you're getting like a 6th for Dalton and even that is probably too much. They didn't do this entire thing just to get some nothing pick. They legitimately wanted him and thought he could unseat McKee as the QB2. So if they indeed soured on McKee, anything is possible.

McKee is a weird one. If they really soured on him they should have traded him to the Jets instead of asking for a huge package.

He has seemed to regress some though. He’s looked a lot better in every other preseason

59 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Something I think has a chance of happening.

Andy Dalton gets cut and everyone is like "Oh, cool, so Tanner beat him out for the QB2 spot... Hurts, Tanner, Payton is the QB room." And then the next day Howie trades Tanner and a late round pick for either Anthony Richardson or JJ McCarthy.

Reasons:

Howie loves going after and buying low on former first rounders to try to rebuild their value or find hidden gems.

Tanner will be gone after the season, so I still think Howie will view him as an expiring asset and try to flip him for something.

They were hesitant to give Hurts a new deal this offseason so Howie will be turning over every leaf to try to hedge in case Hurts doesn't have a great year.

Not saying I would do those deals, I think Richardson and McCarthy blow, but I could see everyone thinking Tanner made the team and then him being traded for one of those guys hours later.

For the 8 billionth time, there was no reason for either side to try and do an extension this offseason. The Eagles can't reduce Hurts' cap hit with an extension, and Hurts had zero incentive to do a deal coming off a "down" year with 2026 fully guaranteed. I have no idea why this talking point won't die.

11 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I understand it's not a great comparison, but it's still a better comparison than August 2024 vs August 2026 DTs. I understand the point you're trying to make, I'm telling you comparing August 2024 DTs vs August 2026 DTs is a totally pointless exercise. It has absolutely no value to compare them because we know how the 2024 DTs turned out. So our feelings on the Eagles 2024 DTs in August of 2024 are totally obsolete.

2024 DTs vs August 2026 comparison isn't a great one, but sometimes thems the breaks. And that makes it fun anyway, because we can look back 5 months from now and see if it turned out to be right or wrong.

Your final sentence adds the missing piece of this disconnected conversation. I don’t ever reach the end of a season and look back at how my predictions worked out. I derive my fun from crunching actual data rather than hypothetical data. And at the end of season there is a mountain of actual data to crunch.

40 minutes ago, TEW said:

Colts ruined him just like they ruined Luck.

Well, there's a decent chance they cut him this Sunday, so we might get to sign him...

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

McKee is a weird one. If they really soured on him they should have traded him to the Jets instead of asking for a huge package.

He has seemed to regress some though. He’s looked a lot better in every other preseason

I really don't get it at all - both McKee's regression (admittedly on a small sample size) and bringing in Dalton to compete. I thought Dalton was here to help teach the new offense, and as an option for QB2 if we moved Tanner. But as you said, if they had soured on McKee, they should have just sent him to the Jets.

Dalton only cost a 7th and a $1.5mm in gteed salary, so it's not a catastrophic mistake. I just don't understand it.

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

For the 8 billionth time, there was no reason for either side to try and do an extension this offseason. The Eagles can't reduce Hurts' cap hit with an extension, and Hurts had zero incentive to do a deal coming off a "down" year with 2026 fully guaranteed. I have no idea why this talking point won't die.

It has been speculated that Hurts wants a raise, that's why it won't die. I don't think it's been concretely reported, but a lot of people who cover the team and national people as well have strongly hinted at it.

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Knowing they drafted a guy who will take time and then complaining about his progression a few weeks into his first summer is ridiculous

Are you new to the EMB?

We've had so many injuries to first string skill positions on offense that we've seen very little from the 2nd string because they were the de facto starters. Now that some of the starters are coming back, I wonder if we'll actually see a bit of the second string or if they already moth balled them and we'll get more of the the 3rd+ stringers.

2 hours ago, justwinbaby said:

Why is everyone overvaluing Sweat in 24? Outside of the superbowl he was very average.

It was the last … wonderful … taste of a season that won the ultimate prize. Have you ever visited many years later with a one night stand who you had great sex with? She almost always is much less good looking than the visual image that has resided in your memory all the intervening years.