A quick preview of next year's draft class. Of course, a lot will change. Focus on the names, rather than the order.

 

1 Sam Howell QB | North Carolina
2 Kayvon Thibodeaux DL | Oregon
3 Derek Stingley Jr. CB | LSU
4 Drake Jackson DL | USC
5 Kyle Hamilton S | Notre Dame
6 Zach Harrison DL | Ohio State
7 Spencer Rattler QB | Oklahoma
8 Evan Neal OT | Alabama
9 George Pickens WR | Georgia
10 Justyn Ross WR | Clemson
11 Christian Harris LB | Alabama
12 Sevyn Banks CB | Ohio State
13 DeMarvin Leal DL | Texas A&M
14 Bubba Bolden S | Miami (FL)
15 George Karlaftis DL | Purdue
16 Kaiir Elam CB | Florida
17 Zion Nelson OT | Miami (FL)
18 Rasheed Walker OT | Penn State
19 Chris Olave WR | Ohio State
20 Charles Cross OT | Mississippi State
21 Brenton Cox Jr. LB | Florida
22 Nik Bonitto EDGE | Oklahoma
23 Jalen Wydermyer TE | Texas A&M
24 Tyler Shough QB | Texas Tech
25 Tyler Linderbaum IOL | Iowa
26 Kedon Slovis QB | USC
27 Merlin Robertson EDGE | Arizona State
28 John Metchie III WR | Alabama
29 Isaiah Spiller RB | Texas A&M
30 Cade Mays IOL | Tennessee
31 Kenyon Green IOL | Texas A&M
32 Ventrell Miller LB | Florida

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2022/consensus-big-board-2022

^ Kayvon Thibodeaux or Zach Harrison please, if not both.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Mills gets dumped on a lot around here, but he was the anti-Sydney Jones.   Mills never had a moment's hesitation about stepping on the field to compete against anybody.  Not the greatest matchup, bought the double move too much and had no makeup speed, but the guy was a battler who never gave up on a single play.   He was matched up on Julio Jones on the final play of the NFC Divisional game.  I have no doubt that if that was Darby, we lose that game.  Mills battled him the entire play...

 

I for one will miss him this year.   I know that puts me in the minority, but I prefer guys who keep their heads up, no matter what to the ones that look at the ground after they are beat.  And he was beat often, but on a team with a good CB opposite, where you could roll the safety over the top to his side, he was a 'good enough' CB to win.   And we did win with him.   He'll be one of my many favorites from that Super Bowl team for a long long time.

Not to dump on Mills, but Jones slipped and fell.  And once Ryan left the pocket, Mills missed out on the opportunity to push Jones out of the end zone.  If the throw was a foot to the left, we lose, as Mills was on the ground while Jones was elevating for the ball. 

Also, Darby was in coverage on Jones at the end of the opener the following season and did a better job in coverage.

That isn't the play I'd go to. 

All in all, a solid draft that left me surprised we didn’t invest more heavily at CB, S, LB, TE.

- It’s no secret I didn’t like the trade up for Smith, but I really like the player. Smith can be reasonably assumed to become a plus player quickly. No player is bust proof, but Smith seems like a high probability prospect. 

- Dickerson. We’ve all discussed it. We all know the risk. If he hits, he’s a franchise cornerstone and a potential all-pro center. I probably wouldn’t have taken a shot on him there, but it sounds like he was going soon regardless.

- Williams will get compared to McNeill and Robinson for the next decade due to the awkward exchange between Howie and Donohoe. I much preferred Williams. 

- I didn’t know much about McPhearson predraft, but the smart people I read seem to like him quite a bit. I preferred other corners, but I won’t pretend like I’m an expert. I’ll side with the smart people. 

- Gainwell wouldn’t ever be expected to become a lead back, but he can be a nice complementary player and passing down back. I’ve always liked Duke Johnson. If he can be that kind of player, I’m happy. 

- Tuipulotu seems like the kind of player who can stick around as a DT3/4 for a long time depending on how his back holds up.  

- Of all the picks, Tarron Jackson probably is my least favorite. I just don’t see it with him. I would have preferred to take one of the many safeties and corners still on the board. 

- On paper, I really like Stevens as a LB. He’s tough, physical, can cover TEs and RBs. He’s a conversion so he will have to maintain that ability while adding about 15-20 pounds. At the very least, he seems like he will be a productive special teams player. Maybe he can become sort of like Ike Reese.

- The more I read on Patrick Johnson, the more I understood the pick. He wasn’t a true DE at Tulane, as he played off the ball and detached. He has the testing numbers to play SAM, and projects to be a decent blitzer off the edge. He doesn’t have the ability to be a three-down LB, but that’s just fine in round 7. 

Of course all of that is looking at players through an optimistic lens. If our top three picks reach 80 percent of their potential, and any one of our day 3 picks becomes a valuable contributor, this is a great draft. 

 

41 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

One thing on Dickerson was his comments of shall I make the 10 hour drive now?  One, he can afford an air fare now, but was also willing to get to Philly ASAP and had looked how far it was to drive. Says a lot about him as a person

That kid is a throw back for sure.  If someone gets a cheap shot on our QB, it won’t be Peters retaliating, it’ll be Dickerson.  You can tell he loves the physicality of football and would play today if he could.  I expect him to be ready week 1, whether or not Eagles do is another story.  Gotta love the Jason Kelce mentality of hurt or injured, if Dickersons hurt you won’t know it. 

11 minutes ago, TEW said:

Obviously.

Packaged it with a 7th for a 2022 5th I believe.

Yes. Washington’s 5th next year. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Just so I can try to keep up with this... who are these mobile QBs that 'rule the day'?

 

Here's the last 20 SB winning QBs.
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs
Super Bowl 52: Nick Foles (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 53: Tom Brady (Julian Edelman), 0TDs
Super Bowl 54: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 55: Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs

 

How many were 'mobile' by your definition?   I count 3, maybe... maybe 4.

I think Mahomes and ARod clearly the 2 best QB’s out there and Wilson as well as Watson not too shabby. Brady just didn’t lose the SB for TB. He gets decent protection, maneuvers well within the pocket, quick release, throws the ball away with little turnovers. So a smart guy with a quick release

2 minutes ago, The guy in France said:

I think Mahomes and ARod clearly the 2 best QB’s out there and Wilson as well as Watson not too shabby. Brady just didn’t lose the SB for TB. He gets decent protection, maneuvers well within the pocket, quick release, throws the ball away with little turnovers. So a smart guy with a quick release

Big Ben was pretty mobile too in his prime.

13 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

A quick preview of next year's draft class. Of course, a lot will change. Focus on the names, rather than the order.

 

1 Sam Howell QB | North Carolina
2 Kayvon Thibodeaux DL | Oregon
3 Derek Stingley Jr. CB | LSU
4 Drake Jackson DL | USC
5 Kyle Hamilton S | Notre Dame
6 Zach Harrison DL | Ohio State
7 Spencer Rattler QB | Oklahoma
8 Evan Neal OT | Alabama
9 George Pickens WR | Georgia
10 Justyn Ross WR | Clemson
11 Christian Harris LB | Alabama
12 Sevyn Banks CB | Ohio State
13 DeMarvin Leal DL | Texas A&M
14 Bubba Bolden S | Miami (FL)
15 George Karlaftis DL | Purdue
16 Kaiir Elam CB | Florida
17 Zion Nelson OT | Miami (FL)
18 Rasheed Walker OT | Penn State
19 Chris Olave WR | Ohio State
20 Charles Cross OT | Mississippi State
21 Brenton Cox Jr. LB | Florida
22 Nik Bonitto EDGE | Oklahoma
23 Jalen Wydermyer TE | Texas A&M
24 Tyler Shough QB | Texas Tech
25 Tyler Linderbaum IOL | Iowa
26 Kedon Slovis QB | USC
27 Merlin Robertson EDGE | Arizona State
28 John Metchie III WR | Alabama
29 Isaiah Spiller RB | Texas A&M
30 Cade Mays IOL | Tennessee
31 Kenyon Green IOL | Texas A&M
32 Ventrell Miller LB | Florida

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2022/consensus-big-board-2022

I’ll put money on it now... first pick will be DL 

6 minutes ago, TEW said:

Big Ben was pretty mobile too in his prime.

I remember when the Blog spent a few week defining "mobile".

I believe what we are discussing now is a running threat on called plays.

Rodgers and a younger Ben where more mobility in the pocket and the random scramble.

Already excited to see the mayhem in here when we take a USC QB in round 1 next year 

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I remember when the Blog spent a few week defining "mobile".

I believe what we are discussing now is a running threat on called plays.

Rodgers and a younger Ben where more mobility in the pocket and the random scramble.

Prime Big Ben was damn near impossible to take down in or around the pocket  He wasn't exactly a threat to take off for 50 yard runs but he was slippery as hell.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I remember when the Blog spent a few week defining "mobile".

I believe what we are discussing now is a running threat on called plays.

Rodgers and a younger Ben where more mobility in the pocket and the random scramble.

A young Rodgers and Ben were more than capable of executing called run plays. Maybe they weren't Mike Vick, but they could definitely hurt you on designed runs. The thing is, why would you? They were both such good passers that you were better off calling a pass play and if the run was there they would take it.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I don't think mobile QB's are in at all.

Mahomes may be mobile, but he's no runner.  For all his improvisational highlights, his real numbers and productivity come from staying on script and being a great passer.  Ditto Aron Rodgers, Russ Wilson, Watson, and Josh Allen.  Net average of that group scrambles about 5 times per game.  They may be athletic, but they are passers.  All of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round QB's from this draft will not be glorified RB's in the NFL.

Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson sit around 9-10 scrambles per game...and those numbers go up against tougher defenses and critical situations.  And they are problematic as passers.  This is not the blueprint for success.

Hurts was 13.5 per start when you account for only playing 1 half against WTF.  Nearly identical number to Miles Sanders.

The guy is a glorified running back.

Quick to pull the trigger aren’t ya ? He played 4 games, thrown in there. Give him a break. I’d like to see 370+ ypg on offense with less than 21 T/O’s. Last year was 335 ypg and 29 T/O’s in 16 games. If our D improves I’d expect even better ypg. Right now that’s how I’m rolling, not as quick as some to pull the plug

13 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’ll put money on it now... first pick will be DL 

I sure hope so.  Great DLine draft.  I'm ready for next year's draft now.

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’ll put money on it now... first pick will be DL 

If I had to bet, I would put my money on a QB.

 

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

He has perfect situation , sit and learn from Brady for a year or two , step in and QB a good team , although I Think he will be doing it for Leftwitch , because I think Bruce retires if they win it all again this year . If he doesn’t teams may poach both the OC and DC next off season, hate to see it , but they would get 4 , 3rd rd picks

I’m not feelin’ it but not my team. I thought you were a Davis Mills fan, Licht F up ?

Not sure on Love, but I’d take any of the other guys over Hurts... 

1 minute ago, TEW said:

If I had to bet, I would put my money on a QB.

Yeah we will see. I’m fully expecting Hurts to be average so I agree that the 2022 starting QB is not on the roster. 

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I remember when the Blog spent a few week defining "mobile".

I believe what we are discussing now is a running threat on called plays.

Rodgers and a younger Ben where more mobility in the pocket and the random scramble.

Mobile for me is "can move around and buy time to throw but throwing is still their primary objective most plays.”

That isn’t Hurts now, nor was it him in college. 
 

He is going to have to become a much better passer to fit my definition of a QB of any type, including "mobile.”

13 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I sure hope so.  Great DLine draft.  I'm ready for next year's draft now.

Likely, led by Kayvon Thibodeaux

7 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Not sure on Love, but I’d take any of the other guys over Hurts... 

I don't agree or disagree. I think the expectations of any the QB's above other than Love are and should be higher. Burrow and Herbert appear to be franchise guys but there isn't enough information to make determinations on Tua or any of the recent draft picks. 

23 minutes ago, The guy in France said:

Quick to pull the trigger aren’t ya ? He played 4 games, thrown in there. Give him a break. I’d like to see 370+ ypg on offense with less than 21 T/O’s. Last year was 335 ypg and 29 T/O’s in 16 games. If our D improves I’d expect even better ypg. Right now that’s how I’m rolling, not as quick as some to pull the plug

Rather than quick to pull the trigger, I'd say it's quick to give him the damn job.

2nd round pick perceived as a reach, bad passer in 4 games, now he's a week 1 starting QB in the NFL.  I'd say giving the guy a shot is premature.

28 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Already excited to see the mayhem in here when we take a USC QB in round 1 next year 

how about a 6'1'' QB from Liberty?