August 5, 20215 yr 27 minutes ago, Toastrel said: You proclaim joy over deaths of others. You are Fed in your head. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can stop being a complete a-hole. FYI - you are the ONLY poster I have ever considered blocking. Too late for this one, I am afraid.
August 5, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, rambo said: If he had asthma he should have got the vaccine. Don't care what shape you're in. A disease that attacks the respiratory system should probably be defended against. Sure, but everyone should get the vaccine unless they're in the very small subset who can't for medical reasons. And saying he had no underlying conditions and also saying he had asthma are at odds, so one of those statements isn't true.
August 5, 20215 yr https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-jersey-governor-slams-anti-vaccine-protesters-youve-lost-your-minds/ar-AAMYz2o?li=BBnb7Kz
August 5, 20215 yr https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/they-couldnt-take-it-anymore-hospital-exec-says-employees-are-walking-off-the-job/vi-AAMX3wI Your healthcare, your choice. Right? OK Hopefully when you need healthcare, it will still be there. Crazy to think this latest spike was preventable in terms of hospitalizations.
August 5, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Ok. Fine. Still he got what he deserved. Oh, and by the way, I guess no Trumplicans were overjoyed when RBG died. So you want to equalize your morality and ethics with people you clearly despise?
August 5, 20215 yr Mississippi has 6 vacant ICU beds, in the entire state. These doctors and nurses are over worked and hanging on by a thread. Something has to be done. But I know, a mask mandate is communism.
August 5, 20215 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Mississippi has 6 vacant ICU beds, in the entire state. These doctors and nurses are over worked and hanging on by a thread. Something has to be done. STOP. PAYING. FOR. CARE. FOR. THE. UNVACCINATED. We utterly refuse to embrace the most effective option.
August 5, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: STOP. PAYING. FOR. CARE. FOR. THE. UNVACCINATED. We utterly refuse to embrace the most effective option. We all know that's a non starter. I agree in principle, but it's not pragmatic. And vaccine mandates take time for the effect on limiting transmission to take hold. It's too late for that now. The governor needs to institute a mask mandate immediately.
August 5, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Paul852 said: Correct. Not mourning a terrible person? Fine. However, let's not cheer when they die. We're all better than that. Obviously not all.
August 5, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: We all know that's a non starter. I agree in principle, but it's not pragmatic. And vaccine mandates take time for the effect on limiting transmission to take hold. It's too late for that now. The governor needs to institute a mask mandate immediately. Staring 10/1/21, Medicare and Medicaid will no longer pay for COVID care for people who are eligible to get the COVID vaccine and have not received at least the first dose. The Federal Government will indemnify private insurers who institute the same policy. Vaccination rates will be 90%. It's not being done because politicians refuse to lead and make hard choices. It's wrong when the GOP does it, and it's also wrong when the left does it. Enabling morons leads to more morons.
August 5, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Staring 10/1/21, Medicare and Medicaid will no longer pay for COVID care for people who are eligible to get the COVID vaccine and have not received at least the first dose. The Federal Government will indemnify private insurers who institute the same policy. Vaccination rates will be 90%. It's not being done because politicians refuse to lead and make hard choices. It's wrong when the GOP does it, and it's also wrong when the left does it. Enabling morons leads to more morons. Agreed completely with everything you said, but if you're the governor of Mississippi, none of this helps with the situation they are in right now. With hospitals already being overrun, they are past the point where vaccine mandates can stem the bleeding from the current crisis. They have no choice but to take swift action or to let people, including many without covid, be neglected of critical care and needlessly die. That they got to this point without taking vaccine compliance seriously is one thing, but now that they're here, they can't just sit on their hands and do nothing. Even though that's exactly what it seems like they're doing.
August 5, 20215 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Agreed with everything you said, but if you're the governor of Mississippi, none of this helps with the situation they are in right now. With hospitals already being overrun, they are past the point where vaccine mandates can stem the bleeding from the current crisis. They have no choice but to take swift action or to let people, including many without covid, be neglected of critical care and needlessly die. That they got to this point without taking vaccine compliance seriously is one thing, but now that they're here, they can't just sit on their hands and do nothing. Even though that's exactly what it seems like they're doing. You need to do...BOTH. Bring back mask mandates for a short time, but then do what I am suggesting to put an end to this. Create a vaccine passport and make it easier for businesses to start demanding proof of vaccination. Have TSA start demanding it to board airplanes. It's not an either/or situation.
August 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: You need to do...BOTH. Bring back mask mandates for a short time, but then do what I am suggesting to put an end to this. Create a vaccine passport and make it easier for businesses to start demanding proof of vaccination. Have TSA start demanding it to board airplanes. It's not an either/or situation. I'm referring to the state governor specifically in this context, but yes collectively at both levels of government we need to take these actions. I'm not trying to frame it as an either/or situation.
August 5, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, vikas83 said: You need to do...BOTH. Bring back mask mandates for a short time, but then do what I am suggesting to put an end to this. Create a vaccine passport and make it easier for businesses to start demanding proof of vaccination. Have TSA start demanding it to board airplanes. It's not an either/or situation. Look what happened with the eviction moratorium. There will be no appetite for saddling millions of minorities with more debt or giving them even more reason to avoid seeking medical care.
August 5, 20215 yr In Zuke’s mind the problem is the 10 million unvaccinated black people, not the 40 million Trump supporters who refuse to get vaccinated because of "muh freedumbs”
August 5, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: In Zuke’s mind the problem is the 10 million unvaccinated black people, not the 40 million Trump supporters who refuse to get vaccinated because of "muh freedumbs” My mind is focused on reality. If it was just Trump supporters, you all would gladly go through with Vikas plan. It’s not though. Not even close.
August 5, 20215 yr 15 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: When did Vikas become an authoritarian? Damn, dude. You have no Constitutional Right to Medicare/Medicaid. Government can't force you to get a shot, but they don't have to pay for you.
August 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, The_Omega said: My mind is focused on reality. If it was just Trump supporters, you all would gladly go through with Vikas plan. It’s not though. Not even close. I would still go through with it, 100%. I don't care about the demographics when it comes to someone's actions endangering others. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
August 5, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, The_Omega said: My mind is focused on reality. If it was just Trump supporters, you all would gladly go through with Vikas plan. It’s not though. Not even close. You're focused on blaming minorities. I haven't seen you mention the 40 million Trump supporters who have refused the vaccine.
August 5, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, vikas83 said: You have no Constitutional Right to Medicare/Medicaid. Government can't force you to get a shot, but they don't have to pay for you. I'm not crazy about the TSA as it is, so I'm uneasy about giving them even more power, but at least in this case the benefit of everyone's safety is prioritized over the one idiot who refuses to take a pandemic seriously. At the very least, in lieu of providing proof of vaccination, I'll settle for 2 negative PCR tests in the 3 days prior, and a rapid antigen test at the security checkpoint. Make it inconvenient enough for them that they realize how stupid they are for being a petulant child.
August 5, 20215 yr "Trump supporters" The guy who fast-tracked the vaccines, got the vaccine himself, and is recommending the vaccine all the time What about all the Dem politicians, including Biden, who said they wouldnt get the vaccine just because it was associated with Trump? Youre saying hes focused on blaming minorities. Youre focused on blaming Trump Its the people who are anti govt in general, selfish, or just lazy. That cross section covers just about every political affiliation
August 5, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: "Trump supporters" The guy who fast-tracked the vaccines, got the vaccine himself, and is recommending the vaccine all the time What about all the Dem politicians, including Biden, who said they wouldnt get the vaccine just because it was associates with Trump? Youre saying hes focused on blaming minorities. Youre focused on blaming Trump Its the people who are anti govt in general, selfish, or just lazy. That cross section covers just about every political affiliation
August 5, 20215 yr you're f'ing delusional, mike. just look at the vaccination percentages & tell me which states/areas aren't getting it? so f'ing obtuse.
August 5, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: You're focused on blaming minorities. I haven't seen you mention the 40 million Trump supporters who have refused the vaccine. I'm focused on the problem. I constantly state that Trump supporters not getting vaccinated are part of the problem, but only part of the problem. Unlike you cowards, I also recognize the other parts of the problem, minorities and younger people, who happen to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. You all are more interested in playing politics then actually solving the problem.
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