Stupidity must be confronted.

 

Just now, Dave Moss said:

 

"Stop politicizing the vaccine you stupid Trumpbots!!"

Quite literally, tons of Dems said they wouldn't trust the vaccine because it came from Trump.  We can play the blame game all day.

The only difference is that COVID saved the Dems from losing to Trump so theyve made it their religion.   Theyre trying to attack DeSantis the same way because it worked on Trump.  The Dems are politicizing the vaccine just as much, theyre just as much to blame as any Republican for the same exact logic this guy just used in tweet #11

The states with the lowest vaccination rates are Wyoming, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, etc.

Those aren't blue states.  

 

1 minute ago, The_Omega said:

I'm focused on the problem.  I constantly state that Trump supporters not getting vaccinated are part of the problem, but only part of the problem.  Unlike you cowards, I also recognize the other parts of the problem, minorities and younger people, who happen to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.  You all are more interested in playing politics then actually solving the problem.

Every eligible person refusing the vaccine is an imbecile, regardless of ideology.

7 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

"Trump supporters"

The guy who fast-tracked the vaccines, got the vaccine himself, and is recommending the vaccine all the time

What about all the Dem politicians, including Biden, who said they wouldnt get the vaccine just because it was associated with Trump?

 

Youre saying hes focused on blaming minorities.  Youre focused on blaming Trump

Its the people who are anti govt in general, selfish, or just lazy.  That cross section covers just about every political affiliation

So 30 percent of Republicans think Trump is going to be reinstated sometime this year as POTUS. That's a lot of people, no? Do you think many of those people are getting vaccinated?

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

you're f'ing delusional, mike. just look at the vaccination percentages & tell me which states/areas aren't getting it?  so f'ing obtuse.    

 

Its stupid and hypocritical to blame Trump, especially for "politicizing" the vaccine, thats my point. It ignores the reality that hes the entire reason we had a vaccine when we did

The people not getting the vaccine at this point arent avoiding it because of Trump.  There's no basis for that argument considering what I said above

If you guys would take off your political blinders you might see that and then we'd all be able to work together instead of choosing up sides

Trump made some missteps with COVID--nearly every single politician has. But hes not the reason someone is avoiding the vaccine i. August 2021.  He cant continue to be the source of all our troubles

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

The states with the lowest vaccination rates are Wyoming, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, etc.

Those aren't blue states.  

 

That's right, and they have no minority communities within them.  Nothing but racist white supremacist TRuMpBOtz!  Well, that may be true for Wyoming and Idaho, but still.....

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Its stupid and hypocritical to blame Trump, especially for "politicizing" the vaccine, thats my point. It ignores the reality that hes the entire reason we had a vaccine when we did

The people not getting the vaccine at this point arent avoiding it because of Trump.  There's no basis for that argument considering what I said above

If you guys would take off your political blinders you might see that and then we'd all be able to work together instead of choosing up sides

Trump made some missteps with COVID--nearly every single politician has. But hes not the reason someone is avoiding the vaccine i. August 2021.  He cant continue to be the source of all our troubles

I mean...the scientists had a little to do with it too.

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

So 30 percent of Republicans think Trump is going to be reinstated sometime this year as POTUS. That's a lot of people, no? Do you think many of those people are getting vaccinated?

I dont think either party has an edge when it comes to stupid people

For the billionth time, Im not a Republican.  I supported Trump and everyone knows that.  But Im not some big GOP cheerleader either, O just happen to agree with more of their general policies than the Democrats

Just now, vikas83 said:

I mean...the scientists had a little to do with it too.

Of course but if it was up to them theyd probably still be testing it and billions more would be dead.  Give credit where its due

New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines, early lab studies show

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/08/new-covid-variants-epsilon-lambda-may-be-resistant-to-vaccines-early-lab-studies-show.html?outputType=amp

The Epsilon and Lambda variants of COVID-19 are "variants of interest,” according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and early studies show they have developed a resistance to vaccines.

Japanese researchers found the Lambda variant, which was initially discovered in Peru and is now spreading throughout South America, is highly transmissible and more resistant to vaccines than the initial COVID-19 strain.

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines, early lab studies show

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/08/new-covid-variants-epsilon-lambda-may-be-resistant-to-vaccines-early-lab-studies-show.html?outputType=amp

The Epsilon and Lambda variants of COVID-19 are "variants of interest,” according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and early studies show they have developed a resistance to vaccines.

Japanese researchers found the Lambda variant, which was initially discovered in Peru and is now spreading throughout South America, is highly transmissible and more resistant to vaccines than the initial COVID-19 strain.

and by the time we read this, those variants are already in the united states. 

16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

"Trump supporters"

The guy who fast-tracked the vaccines, got the vaccine himself, and is recommending the vaccine all the time

What about all the Dem politicians, including Biden, who said they wouldnt get the vaccine just because it was associated with Trump?

 

Youre saying hes focused on blaming minorities.  Youre focused on blaming Trump

Its the people who are anti govt in general, selfish, or just lazy.  That cross section covers just about every political affiliation

how to tell me you have velcro shoes without telling me you have velcro shoes

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Every eligible person refusing the vaccine is an imbecile, regardless of ideology.

It's an easy, but short-sighted stance.  There are some people with legitimate medical reasons for not getting it.  There are also people who probably saw people they know have side effects from the vaccine, which has soured them to the idea of getting it.  No, that doesn't negate the fact that the effects of Covid usually outweigh the side effects of the vaccine, but it's still a consideration.  And yes, there's also a lot of imbeciles.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

how to tell me you have velcro shoes without telling me you have velcro shoes

Sorry Ive hurt you so deeply, WGB

I know one sign of intelligence is constant ad hominems, and another is literally injecting yourself into every conversation and destroying them.

We're all so impressed with you, WGB.

Right, everyone?  Arent you so impressed?  Lets all clap for WGB.

There you go buddy, now you can log off today

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

"Stop politicizing the vaccine you stupid Trumpbots!!"

Quite literally, tons of Dems said they wouldn't trust the vaccine because it came from Trump.  We can play the blame game all day.

The only difference is that COVID saved the Dems from losing to Trump so theyve made it their religion.   Theyre trying to attack DeSantis the same way because it worked on Trump.  The Dems are politicizing the vaccine just as much, theyre just as much to blame as any Republican for the same exact logic this guy just used in tweet #11

 

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

and by the time we read this, those variants are already in the united states. 

The variants will keep coming as long as the unvaccinated remain that way. The only way to stop the variants is to get vaccinated.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

 

Great post, WGB!  Youre so impressive!

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Sorry Ive hurt you so deeply, WGB

I kmow one sign of intelligence is constant ad hominems, and another is literally injecting yourself into every conversation and destroying them.

We're all so impressed with you, WGB.

Right, everyone?  Arent you so impressed?  Lets all clap for WGB.

There you go buddy, now you can log off today

Aww, thanks for the kind words. I kmew I could count on you to always put things into proper perspective. 

Just now, The_Omega said:

It's an easy, but short-sighted stance.  There are some people with legitimate medical reasons for not getting it.  There are also people who probably saw people they know have side effects from the vaccine, which has soured them to the idea of getting it.  No, that doesn't negate the fact that the effects of Covid usually outweigh the side effects of the vaccine, but it's still a consideration.  And yes, there's also a lot of imbeciles.

People who have medical issues that make the vaccine dangerous aren't in my definition of "eligible." Breaking this down, here's how I see the groups:

1. GOP/Q'Anon/Trump voters -- whatever you want to call them, all the data says this is the largest group. They are fed by Fox, Newsmax, OANN, etc. They scream it's about freedom, but really it's about one thing -- "owning the libs." If Trump were in office, they'd be getting the shots. But they are led by morons like Tucker and GOP governors. This group is likely beyond hope through any means other than coercion like I listed above.

2. Minority Communities -- Tuskegee...OK, it was wrong. If this made people hesitant initially, I can understand that. Over a hundred million people have gotten the shots now. That excuse no longer holds water. 

3. Left-wing anti-vaxxers -- the original anti-vaxxers led by their heroine Jenny McCarthy. These people are beyond hope. 

4. Lazy ass people -- this is a bigger group than we think. Coercion would work here -- they will get the shot when they see negative consequences that motivate them to get off their arse.

12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Its stupid and hypocritical to blame Trump, especially for "politicizing" the vaccine, thats my point. It ignores the reality that hes the entire reason we had a vaccine when we did

The people not getting the vaccine at this point arent avoiding it because of Trump.  There's no basis for that argument considering what I said above

If you guys would take off your political blinders you might see that and then we'd all be able to work together instead of choosing up sides

Trump made some missteps with COVID--nearly every single politician has. But hes not the reason someone is avoiding the vaccine i. August 2021.  He cant continue to be the source of all our troubles

How are you not employed by The Onion? 

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Aww, thanks for the kind words. I kmew I could count on you to always put things into proper perspective. 

Every time I log into the EMB I get 30 notifications..."WGB has responded to your post"

Just saying

14 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I dont think either party has an edge when it comes to stupid people

For the billionth time, Im not a Republican.  I supported Trump and everyone knows that.  But Im not some big GOP cheerleader either, O just happen to agree with more of their general policies than the Democrats

Of course but if it was up to them theyd probably still be testing it and billions more would be dead.  Give credit where its due

^adult conversation from an adult who clearly knows the difference between foreign and domestic private enterprise, the CDC, the FDA, and the president

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

People who have medical issues that make the vaccine dangerous aren't in my definition of "eligible." Breaking this down, here's how I see the groups:

1. GOP/Q'Anon/Trump voters -- whatever you want to call them, all the data says this is the largest group. They are fed by Fox, Newsmax, OANN, etc. They scream it's about freedom, but really it's about one thing -- "owning the libs." If Trump were in office, they'd be getting the shots. But they are led by morons like Tucker and GOP governors. This group is likely beyond hope through any means other than coercion like I listed above.

2. Minority Communities -- Tuskegee...OK, it was wrong. If this made people hesitant initially, I can understand that. Over a hundred million people have gotten the shots now. That excuse no longer holds water. 

3. Left-wing anti-vaxxers -- the original anti-vaxxers led by their heroine Jenny McCarthy. These people are beyond hope. 

4. Lazy ass people -- this is a bigger group than we think. Coercion would work here -- they will get the shot when they see negative consequences that motivate them to get off their arse.

Which is why I floated the idea that the administration should get over their Trump derangement, swallow their tongues when he crows about it, and ask him to join in their effort, but they won't, which says a lot about how committed they really are.  Hell, he's got a rally coming up in Alabama doesn't he?  A Trump endorsed vaccination site at the rally would seem a great idea.  Either that, or just invite Trump supporters to go hunting, and hit them with the vaccine in a blowdart when they fall asleep in the tree stand.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

^adult conversation from an adult who clearly knows the difference between foreign and domestic private enterprise, the CDC, the FDA, and the president

What???   

So you dont believe Trump is responsible for fast tracking the vaccines?  

Cant acknowledge reality because of your TDS.  Sad!

2 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

Which is why I floated the idea that the administration should get over their Trump derangement, swallow their tongues when he crows about it, and ask him to join in their effort, but they won't, which says a lot about how committed they really are.  Hell, he's got a rally coming up in Alabama doesn't he?  A Trump endorsed vaccination site at the rally would seem a great idea.  Either that, or just invite Trump supporters to go hunting, and hit them with the vaccine in a blowdart when they fall asleep in the tree stand.

That's if you believe he would actually ever do that.