This seems like it should be a big deal, but I guess ishlibs have to wait before the msm constructed reactions to the story to come out before responding to this.  

4 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Seems to me that the self proclaimed "uniter in chief" shouldn't have to rely on hope.  

It’s what a lot of politicians rely on.  Trump hoped his Covid response would get him re-elected.  He gambled and lost.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

This seems like it should be a big deal, but I guess ishlibs have to wait before the msm constructed reactions to the story to come out before responding to this.  

Hate to break it to you but coronavirus a have been studied for over 50 years.  This isn’t the AHA Gotcha moment you’re looking for. 

5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

It’s what a lot of politicians rely on.  Trump hoped his Covid response would get him re-elected.  He gambled and lost.

Yep, and he should have.  His behavior in those Covid press conferences, the debates and after the election were detestable.  I'm just checking in with the CVON regulars to see how they are reconciling that Biden has the same death rate that Trump did. 

As expected, the only acceptable narrative is that Trump was awful and got us into this situation.  It's Trump supporters that are keeping us here and that the president the country elected to resolve this situation couldn't possibly be expected to have any effect...because TRUMP!!

Just now, The Norseman said:

Yep, and he should have.  His behavior in those Covid press conferences, the debates and after the election were detestable.  I'm just checking in with the CVON regulars to see how they are reconciling that Biden has the same death rate that Trump did. 

As expected, the only acceptable narrative is that Trump was awful and got us into this situation.  It's Trump supporters that are keeping us here and that the president the century elected to resolve this situation couldn't possibly be expected to have any effect...because TRUMP!!

How do you feel about forced vaccinations?

4 minutes ago, DBW said:

Hate to break it to you but coronavirus a have been studied for over 50 years.  This isn’t the AHA Gotcha moment you’re looking for. 

Shh, just focus on the horse paste, bud.  

6 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Yep, and he should have.  His behavior in those Covid press conferences, the debates and after the election were detestable.  I'm just checking in with the CVON regulars to see how they are reconciling that Biden has the same death rate that Trump did. 

As expected, the only acceptable narrative is that Trump was awful and got us into this situation.  It's Trump supporters that are keeping us here and that the president the century elected to resolve this situation couldn't possibly be expected to have any effect...because TRUMP!!

Not just trump, all the red states.  Take a look at the where the highest infection and death numbers are.  Texas doesn’t even allow schools to report cases and contact trace so they are complicit in the spikes among kids that’s happening right now.  Florida is a crap show.  Etc.  But Biden runs all these states, right?  It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.  WGB answered your question with several key points.  Not all was trump related.  You chose to ignore that post.  

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Shh, just focus on the horse paste, bud.  

🥱 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/09/07/ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-dale-fact-check-newday-vpx.cnn

Swedish govt has announced today that restrictions will all be more or less removed as of Sept 29th due to our high rates of vaccination and super low rates of COVID deaths and ICU patients for vaccinated individuals. All cultural events will be back at full capacity and work from home recommendations will be lifted. Vaccine requirements for some activities are under review. 
 

The focus is on getting vaccinated people back to normal life. 

Did media organizations completely fail in their responsibility to fact check the local ivermectin story out of Oklahoma and platform it? 100% yes.

Did the blowback from the story completely overshoot their mark and make equally stupid statements and misrepresentations? 100% yes.

So is taking ivermectin stupid? 100% yes.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

GD you are relentlessly dumb.  

Truth hurts, eh?

5 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Did media organizations completely fail in their responsibility to fact check the local ivermectin story out of Oklahoma and platform it? 100% yes.

Did the blowback from the story completely overshoot their mark and make equally stupid statements and misrepresentations? 100% yes.

So is taking ivermectin stupid? 100% yes.

Did ishlibs fall for another media contrived hoax? 100% yes.

 

32 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Yep, and he should have.  His behavior in those Covid press conferences, the debates and after the election were detestable.  I'm just checking in with the CVON regulars to see how they are reconciling that Biden has the same death rate that Trump did. 

As expected, the only acceptable narrative is that Trump was awful and got us into this situation.  It's Trump supporters that are keeping us here and that the president the country elected to resolve this situation couldn't possibly be expected to have any effect...because TRUMP!!

No he doesn't. You're measuring the entire year's Covid cases, but disregarding the fact that in 2020, the first Covid death in the US didn't take place until the last day in Feb.  From March 1 2020, until Sept. 7, there were 189K deaths.

Tracking those same days in 2021, there were 134K deaths.  That's a significantly better death rate and that doesn't even include the fact that the first month + of 2020, the virus was just starting to spread, so the cases didn't really get high until early April.  If you take April to Sept 2020, you get 184K, vs. 96K in 2021, which makes Biden's rate even better.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

No he doesn't. You're measuring the entire year's Covid cases, but disregarding the fact that in 2020, the first Covid death in the US didn't take place until the last day in Feb.  From March 1 2020, until Sept. 7, there were 189K deaths.

Tracking those same days in 2021, there were 134K deaths.  That's a significantly better death rate and that doesn't even include the fact that the first month + of 2020, the virus was just starting to spread, so the cases didn't really get high until early April.  If you take April to Sept 2020, you get 184K, vs. 96K in 2021, which makes Biden's rate even better.

Math and Calendars: The Trumpbot's Kryptonite

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Did ishlibs fall for another media contrived hoax? 100% yes.

 

No more than kkz and the gang fell for the election fraud hoax.  Does Trump still have your debit card in auto withdraw for your monthly cult dues? 

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

No he doesn't. You're measuring the entire year's Covid cases, but disregarding the fact that in 2020, the first Covid death in the US didn't take place until the last day in Feb.  From March 1 2020, until Sept. 7, there were 189K deaths.

Tracking those same days in 2021, there were 134K deaths.  That's a significantly better death rate and that doesn't even include the fact that the first month + of 2020, the virus was just starting to spread, so the cases didn't really get high until early April.  If you take April to Sept 2020, you get 184K, vs. 96K in 2021, which makes Biden's rate even better.

Math is hard for them. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You're OPINION doesn't hurt me.  I have been vaccinated you dope.  It's just so damn sad that you can't function without attaching any subject matter to your political obsessions.  

I am opinion? 

 

And no, this is established fact. 

 

It's a political sub forum, discussing a topic highly politicized by the guy you voted for. Crying about "political obsessions" makes you sound like a child who's still sad because their hero lost. 

 

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-july-2021/

Partisanship also plays a major role with more than half (58%) of the "definitely not” group identifying as Republican or Republican-leaning. In addition, religious identity also plays a role as White Evangelical Christians make up nearly twice the share of the "definitely not” group (32%) as the "wait and see” group.

51 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

How do you feel about forced vaccinations?

Don't support the government forcing anything, but private businesses should be able to do whatever they please. 

49 minutes ago, DBW said:

Not just trump, all the red states.  Take a look at the where the highest infection and death numbers are.  Texas doesn’t even allow schools to report cases and contact trace so they are complicit in the spikes among kids that’s happening right now.  Florida is a crap show.  Etc.  But Biden runs all these states, right?  It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.  WGB answered your question with several key points.  Not all was trump related.  You chose to ignore that post.  

Ah, so now we get to blame governors?  Because I clearly remember most people in here giving Cuomo a pass on his astronomical death rates because....TRUMP!

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Been pretty well documented that I wasn’t a fan.  Nice try.  Your divisive stereotyping might work with bottom feeders like Kz (you and he and a lot  alike btw).  But it doesn’t work with those of us who can think on their own and don’t go down a partisan check list every time a different topic is discussed.  

Ah yes, the quintessential Not-A-Trump-Supporter. Pretending you never liked him as you voted for him twice is so adorable. 

11 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Ah, so now we get to blame governors?  Because I clearly remember most people in here giving Cuomo a pass on his astronomical death rates because....TRUMP!

Yeah when you have trumplican governors banning mask mandates and contact tracing and reporting of cases, etc then that’s a problem. And that’s a huge reason for the continued rise in cases.  We can easily track this back to the early days when trump claimed it was all a hoax, fake virus, would go away, ignore the science, etc.  every single one of these red states are still echoing their failure of a president.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You believe what you want Rachel 

So Norse kicks us off by complaining about Trump getting blamed for deaths while Biden isn't, then is met with pushback, and instead of calling out Norse for politicizing the discussion, you reply to me.

But please tell us more about how much you hate partisan hypocrites. 

29 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

No he doesn't. You're measuring the entire year's Covid cases, but disregarding the fact that in 2020, the first Covid death in the US didn't take place until the last day in Feb.  From March 1 2020, until Sept. 7, there were 189K deaths.

Tracking those same days in 2021, there were 134K deaths.  That's a significantly better death rate and that doesn't even include the fact that the first month + of 2020, the virus was just starting to spread, so the cases didn't really get high until early April.  If you take April to Sept 2020, you get 184K, vs. 96K in 2021, which makes Biden's rate even better.

All I'm saying is that at the current trajectory Biden will end 2021 with a similar death total than Trump in 2020.  Even if Covid had a full year to run in 2021, but  didn't start until Q2 2020...that is more than negated by the fact that we had half the country vaccinated in 2021.  I would argue that with our current vaccination rate Biden's death rate is FAR worse as you have to exclude almost half the population that has been vaccinated.  

We can agree to disagree on the finer points, but by any measure the country will not view this as success.  

And to be clear, my point here isn't that this is all Biden's fault and that everything is falling apart due to his mismanagement.  It is only to point out how ridiculous it is (and was) to blame a president for national death and case rates in a global pandemic. 

But since that's pretty much all this forum did in 2020...

52 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Swedish govt has announced today that restrictions will all be more or less removed as of Sept 29th due to our high rates of vaccination and super low rates of COVID deaths and ICU patients for vaccinated individuals. All cultural events will be back at full capacity and work from home recommendations will be lifted. Vaccine requirements for some activities are under review. 
 

The focus is on getting vaccinated people back to normal life. 

Virus is over like I said for the vaccinated, congrats