29 minutes ago, DBW said:

Hey crap for brains, the vaccine is tested, and APPROVED BY THE FDA.  Nice cartoon though. Did you draw that with the crayons that came in the happy mean daddy Donald bought you? 

Hhhm that sounds familiar, maybe I read it somewhere, oh yeah the constitution under the right to free enterprise. 

The federal government can mandate travel restrictions on private airlines, maybe you’ve heard of the no fly list.  Something every eligible but unvaccinated person should be on.

Hey crap for brains, we have faith in our vaccines.  But some of us have kids that aren’t eligible yet, so if they let your dirty diseased ass on a plane and you sit next to my unvaccinated kids then YOU put them at risk, through no fault of their own, so why don’t you quit being a giant dewsh for once in your life?  Why your clown ass hasn’t been banned is a mystery.  

I've never even gotten a warning despite you guys crying all the time. And newsflash, I've never had the rona and don't plan on getting it. So direct your ire at someone else. 

Just now, mikemack8 said:

I see we're back to the part of the circle jerk in here where the virus kills EVERYONE who contracts it.  Cool.

What's another half a million avoidable deaths here and another hundred thousands there, right?  Drops in the bucket versus total population ammirght?  

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

What's another half a million avoidable deaths here and another hundred thousands there, right?  Drops in the bucket versus total population ammirght?  

MaSs ExTiNcTiOn EvEnT

 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

The Hanson concert you went to disagrees with the bolded part of your post.

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

MaSs ExTiNcTiOn EvEnT

 

Yup.  i'm gonna need a lot of new dancing shoes.

7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I see we're back to the part of the circle jerk in here where the virus kills EVERYONE who contracts it.  Cool.

Wow, the mental gymnastics in this thread...

Republicans: The government shouldn't tell private business what to do!

Also Republicans: Buuuuuuuut, the government should force private businesses to employ anti vaxxers

And still Republicans: Biden is terrible because he wont do anything to stop covid

And finally republicans: Even though Biden isn't doing anything to stop covid, the government in no way should stop or even curtail dopey anti vaxxers from spreading covid to anyone and everyone they possibly can. 

5 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Wow, the mental gymnastics in this thread...

Republicans: The government shouldn't tell private business what to do!

Also Republicans: Buuuuuuuut, the government should force private businesses to employ anti vaxxers

And still Republicans: Biden is terrible because he wont do anything to stop covid

And finally republicans: Even though Biden isn't doing anything to stop covid, the government in no way should stop or even curtail dopey anti vaxxers from spreading covid to anyone and everyone they possibly can. 

6 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Yup.  i'm gonna need a lot of new dancing shoes.

The return of the edge lord!

The bickering will continue until this is under control.  If I have learned anything, the only way pandemics end is by immunity.  Whether vaccinated or natural.  Saw where a specialist said a couple more months.  Hope she is also right about the northeast not seeing Delta as bad due to high percentage of vaccinated folks.  IF, this holds true thru the years end, then can I come back in here and punch some throats?   

 

Edited:  Sorry v about your best  friend.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

The return of the edge lord!

You are a troll and will be fed accordingly.

30 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

If you have unvaccinated family members who are eligible, encouraging them to get vaccinated is by far the best thing you can do to help keep them safe. If you have kids under 12, look into buying some kids sized kn95 masks if you haven't already. They're not cheap, but it's a small price to pay if it ends up being the difference between a negative test result and a positive one.

My grandparents got vaxxed in like Feb or whenever they started taking care of the 70+. My mom and sister are both part of the anti-vaxx and super pro-trump. I sent my mom the posts about trump being vaxxed, telling the people in alabama to get vaxxed, and even the FPA approval and even when these people would have used LACK of those things as the reason to not get vaxxed, when those circumstances all change they then find some new reason to not do it or those situations all being reversed don't reverse their opinon.

They came to Minneapolis in early June (a pretty well-vaxxed area IMO) and we were at the mall a few times, the zoo, and shoulder to shoulder with tons randos at two separate Twins games.... but 2 weeks from now we are going to Orlando and will be in amusement parks all day, so we'll see if the FL variant kills them or not. 

1 minute ago, DiPros said:

The bickering will continue until this is under control.  If I have learned anything, the only way pandemics end is by immunity.  Whether vaccinated or natural.  Saw where a specialist said a couple more months.  Hope she is also right about the northeast not seeing Delta as bad due to high percentage of vaccinated folks.  IF, this holds true thru the years end, then can I come back in here and punch some throats?   

Both.  the answer is both.  Every single one of us is going to get it sooner or later and most of us will more than once.  The vaxed have 5-10x better chance to survive.

44 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

The more you post the more it reveals your lack of understanding of how the federal government, laws, and legal precedent works in this country.

Does it?  How so?

Just now, The Norseman said:

Does it?  How so?

I mean... you can easily run the last few pages of the thread back where I, and the rest of CVON, answer this question...

49 minutes ago, DBW said:

The federal government can mandate travel restrictions on private airlines, maybe you’ve heard of the no fly list.  Something every eligible but unvaccinated person should be on.

I didn't say they couldn't.  

6 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

You are a troll and will be fed accordingly.

Good to know I've been able to goad you into *squints* rooting for the deaths of tens of millions of Americans. I had no idea I was that effective.

8 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

 the FL variant kills them or not. 

Is the FL variant the same variant that spread through Israel recently despite that country's high vax rate?

1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

Because it's not just about us, genius. It's about the eradication of the virus and protection of all of us. You can't protect the human population from a virus when you have 30% of the population providing an ecosystem for it to spread, grow, evolve, and eventually immunize itself against the vaccine.

Yeah, except even in a country where the government is forcing people to be vaccinated to participate in society, the people in charge of this stuff acknowledge it's here to stay:

I know it's tough, but you're just going to have to try to lose weight, man.

France has been popping off for weeks over government mandates:

Our fakenews media won't even cover it though. Shameful. 

1 minute ago, mayanh8 said:

I mean... you can easily run the last few pages of the thread back where I, and the rest of CVON, answer this question...

You're all arguing that the federal government can mandate passengers to be vaccinated.  They can, and nowhere have I said that they can't.  

But the airlines haven't even been able to agree on whether to mandate that their own pilots and flight crews get vaccinated (some have, some haven't).  The Federal government coming through and mandating that all passengers be vaccinated would potentially bar unvaccinated passengers from planes that are being flown and serviced by unvaccinated personnel. 

Likewise, the already decimated airline industry would only be able to service 47% of the country (those who are currently vaccinated)...cutting their existing their client base in half.  

Please explain to me how this would not induce legal challenges on both sides of this issue?

7 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Good to know I've been able to goad you into *squints* rooting for the deaths of tens of millions of Americans. I had no idea I was that effective.

The blood is on your hands brother.  Trying to lead as many as you can of the cliff.  I'm just eating popcorn over here.

2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

The blood is on your hands brother.  Trying to lead as many as you can of the cliff.  I'm just eating popcorn over here.

This post only makes sense if you acknowledge that liberalism is a cult.

🤣😂🤣

12 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

I didn't say they couldn't.  

You implied it was unconstitutional in reference to Vikas’ post where you said he supports a government mandate.  I was simply making sure you understood that the government can, at time, step in and regulate the private airlines via a no fly list if they feel it is a matter of national emergency or security.  If you indeed do understand that, then your remark about Vikas supporting it, is pointless.  you’re argument that what he supports is unconstitutional is void as per the above agreed upon fact that the government can step in and ban your ability to fly.  

3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yeah, except even in a country where the government is forcing people to be vaccinated to participate in society, the people in charge of this stuff acknowledge it's here to stay:

I know it's tough, but you're just going to have to try to lose weight, man.

You're completely misrepresenting what she's said (if you actually read the article)... or you've fallen for a clickbait headline for the umpteenth time. Both things are equally possible. So this will be more for the people who aren't total idiots and/or aren't being disingenuous about how they view vaccines...

"As a public health doctor we always want to have diseases go, to be totally eliminated, but that is not on the horizon in the near future,” she continued. "Booster doses and repeat doses will be part of it.”

"I can assure you that the commonwealth government has purchased large quantities of vaccine into 2022 and this will be a regular cycle of vaccination and revaccination as we learn more about when immunity wanes.”

Clearly, she's saying there's no all out cure for the virus so maintaining high vaccination levels are what's going to keep COVID numbers down, as is the case with many vaccines we take.