September 30, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Uhhh, I got the vaccine so I wouldn’t have to worry about that. If you read a few pages earlier, I lost a friend last week to Covid. She was in her early 70's and was fully vaccinated. So I would disagree with your statement, and suggest that having a fallback plan in case of emergency is prudent given the number of breakthrough infections that were seeing in various locations.
September 30, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Call my doc and ask about mAbs and remdesivir, already knowing the former is a better option than the latter. Depending on how severe my symptoms are and how long it's been since they're onset, maybe it's time to go straight to dexamethasone. You know what I won't be asking about? Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, or nebulizing hydrogen peroxide. Why, you ask? Because I'm not a moron. And if my doctor suggests any of those three, I'm hanging up the phone and getting a new doctor. Without calling you a moron (as tempting as that is), I am disappointed that you haven't pinpointed where to get mAbs (Regeneron) in the unlikely event that you or a family member are in need. Just in case, here's a link you can navigate through. https://covid.infusioncenter.org/
September 30, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Without calling you a moron (as tempting as that is), I am disappointed that you haven't pinpointed where to get mAbs (Regeneron) in the unlikely event that you or a family member are in need. Just in case, here's a link you can navigate through. https://covid.infusioncenter.org/ You're disappointed that I didn't tell you where I can get mAbs where I live? As if you'd either know a given location for a state you're likely not familiar with, or that I couldn't get the info from my doctor in that very same phone call, or just from a simple 30 second search. Yeah, oh so disappointing. Now back to you're regularly scheduled antivax BS, trumpbot.
September 30, 20214 yr 49 minutes ago, Procus said: Nurses are more front line with this than physicians. But I suspected you would throw something in to the effect that doctors are superior to nurses, and you did not disappoint. No they're not. And they're certainly less involved in treatment planning and hospital/unit management, and by definition have less education than doctors/NPs. But we'll add "hospital roles" to the growing list of things you clearly have no clue about.
September 30, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Procus said: If you read a few pages earlier, I lost a friend last week to Covid. She was in her early 70's and was fully vaccinated. So I would disagree with your statement, and suggest that having a fallback plan in case of emergency is prudent given the number of breakthrough infections that were seeing in various locations. And if more people were vaccinated she would still be alive.
September 30, 20214 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: No they're not. And they're certainly less involved in treatment planning and hospital/unit management, and by definition have less education than doctors/NPs. But we'll add "hospital roles" to the growing list of things you clearly have no clue about. Yah, the EMB resident know it all progressive physician.
September 30, 20214 yr 54 minutes ago, Procus said: Nurses are more front line with this than physicians. But I suspected you would throw something in to the effect that doctors are superior to nurses, and you did not disappoint. Are you trying to imply they aren't? You think the level of credentials and licensing are even in the same universe? You think their level of pay isn't indicative of their expertise? How many bad takes can you possibly have in one thread, dude?
September 30, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Are you trying to imply they aren't? You think the level of credentials and licensing are even in the same universe? You think their level of pay isn't indicative of their expertise? How many bad takes can you possibly have in one thread, dude? Unvaccinated nurses who believe every conspiracy theory on facebook are the enlightened ones. C’mon man
September 30, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Procus said: Yah, the EMB resident know it all progressive physician. Yea we shouldn't listen to a licensed physician for medical advice, we should instead listen to procus, CVON whipping boy and resident antivaxer.
September 30, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Unvaccinated nurses who believe every conspiracy theory on facebook are the enlightened ones. C’mon man Aren't nurses the ones getting the kick backs from big pharma?
September 30, 20214 yr Nurses are incredibly important but FFS we need to be real, that title applies to highly specialized ICU nurses along with 20 year olds fresh off an 12 month LPN program. They're not exactly a uniformly informed and educated group. Neither are doctors but the gap is MUCH narrower.
September 30, 20214 yr Just now, lynched1 said: Aren't nurses the ones getting the kick backs from big pharma? No clue. Maybe. Is that what they’re saying on facebook?
September 30, 20214 yr Email I got today from the Mass Board of Medicine I'ma narc on some homeopaths so hard.
September 30, 20214 yr 27 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Are you trying to imply they aren't? You think the level of credentials and licensing are even in the same universe? You think their level of pay isn't indicative of their expertise? How many bad takes can you possibly have in one thread, dude? You damn right I'm implying that in many respects - and I have no doubt that despite the back and forth on this thread that @DEagle7 agrees with this statement. People are usually better at their assigned repetitive tasks than others. In most cases, you would want a phlebotomist to draw blood over a doctor, and a phlebotomist is not even a nurse. You need an ultrasound performed? You don't want the doctor doing it in most cases - you want the nurse who's performing a dozen ultrasounds every day doing that. And this crosses across industry lines. In the legal field, there are certain aspects of law practice that you absolutely want a paralegal to perform over an attorney. And on top of that, there are some really **** doctors out there - horrible doctors, and some excellent nurses.
September 30, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: You damn right I'm implying that in many respects - and I have no doubt that despite the back and forth on this thread that @DEagle7 agrees with this statement. People are usually better at their assigned repetitive tasks than others. In most cases, you would want a phlebotomist to draw blood over a doctor, and a phlebotomist is not even a nurse. You need an ultrasound performed? You don't want the doctor doing it in most cases - you want the nurse who's performing a dozen ultrasounds every day doing that. And this crosses across industry lines. In the legal field, there are certain aspects of law practice that you absolutely want a paralegal to perform over an attorney. And on top of that, there are some really **** doctors out there - horrible doctors, and some excellent nurses. And if you'd want someone giving advice on/dictating hospital wide policy on an infectious disease you'd want... You're so close to getting there. I believe in you.
September 30, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Procus said: You damn right I'm implying that in many respects - and I have no doubt that despite the back and forth on this thread that @DEagle7 agrees with this statement. People are usually better at their assigned repetitive tasks than others. In most cases, you would want a phlebotomist to draw blood over a doctor, and a phlebotomist is not even a nurse. You need an ultrasound performed? You don't want the doctor doing it in most cases - you want the nurse who's performing a dozen ultrasounds every day doing that. And this crosses across industry lines. In the legal field, there are certain aspects of law practice that you absolutely want a paralegal to perform over an attorney. And on top of that, there are some really **** doctors out there - horrible doctors, and some excellent nurses. Generally speaking, doctors are far more proficient at practicing medicine than nurses are. That's, like, the reason why they're doctors. It's really not a difficult concept. Are there some bad doctors? Of course. Are there some excellent nurses? Of course. Should you ever imply doctors and nurses are equally proficient at practicing medicine? No. No, you should not, unless you never want to be taken seriously by anyone not suffering from life long brain damage.
September 30, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: And if you'd want someone giving advice on/dictating hospital wide policy on an infectious disease you'd want... You're so close to getting there. I believe in you. Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation.
September 30, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation. Why not just have someone dress up in a naughty nurse costume and then have that person formulate treatment plans?
September 30, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Why not just have someone dress up in a naughty nurse costume and then have that person formulate treatment plans? You mean like this nurse?
September 30, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Procus said: Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation. OK good. So maybe when it comes to the decision to get vaccinated, take certain medications, wear masks etc you should listen tooooooo.... (Almost there)
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