DaEagles4Life Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 He was part of that trade with Kennard few months ago. Nets probably thought they were getting a shooter and dude just stinks, 28% from Raptors have 3rd hardest schedule and Magic 1st. Might be two teams looking to rebuild and get rid of some of their bigger contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4for4EaglesNest Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mat said: Alaa said multiple times that Grant had been working with an ex Sixers shooting coach to transform his shot. I'm not sure if it's the same guy that TJ was working with to add the serviceable 3 point shot but the guy has put in the work and has become a really good player. We have been complaining that the 6'ers broke Fultz shooting action and that Ben hadn't improved when in reality one had his uncle rework and break his mechanic and the other is using his brother to tell him how good he is and he doesn't need a jumper. Grant is proof that they had the right development guys there and it's the work ethic and entitlement of the early draft picks which hasn't seen them live up to their potential. It also would have been nice to see how a team would look right now of guys they let walk or traded away. Grant, Wood, TJ, RoCo, Dario, Holmes and Shamet are a few. Ben gets all of his shooting advice from tik tok 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsFanBill Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I'm tired of talking about when Ben is going to be good. It's the guys 5th year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanh8 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Ben is going to 45 years old, posting single triple stat lines, and still on a max contract and fans will still be like, "he's only a jump shot away from being the best player in the league!!" 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBENT87 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Mat said: Without fact checking this, I feel all Ben's big scoring games have come against cellar dwellers. The Knicks/Cavs of the world when they were bad. When he comes up against better competition with better coaching, they're able to negate his strengths and force him out of the paint. Those bad teams will let him play his game and he looks like an All-Star. So he looks like he has really great point totals over X amount of weeks when in reality he has played against a bunch of crap teams and scored against them and still struggles against playoff calibre opposition. 4 hours ago, Mat said: To follow up on my last post, I'm trying to think of the last playoff game Simmons really took over. Maybe the Heat when Jo was injured and he had that massive game after laying an egg the previous one? I think it might have been a triple double and then he came up against the Celtics next who layed out the blueprint on how to stop him I reference this video a lot. Simmons vs the Nets 2019 playoffs without Embiid. He dominated. If you can go back and watch the whole game somehow, this is him at his peak. He was fantastic. Absolutely should've been traded after this at first opportunity to sell that team on what he's capable of as "the guy." That's unfortunately what his legacy here is shaping up to be - the guy we should've unloaded twice for superstars (Kawhi, Harden) but stood pat instead banking on the potential that never came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: Ben is going to 45 years old, posting single triple stat lines, and still on a max contract and fans will still be like, "he's only a jump shot away from being the best player in the league!!" Part of me legitimately believes that Ben only cares about the triple double and in his mind why does he need to shot, he just got the coveted triple double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I dont know if I am understanding this right. There is talk of Love traded to Brooklyn, but if he is healthy they would buy him out and he will be a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 He will get playing time with the Nets. They have ZERO depth and playing the big 3 way too many minutes right now. Last night vs the Heat Kyrie played 40, KD 38, and Harden 34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said: He will get playing time with the Nets. They have ZERO depth and playing the big 3 way too many minutes right now. Last night vs the Heat Kyrie played 40, KD 38, and Harden 34 Isn't it saying Brooklyn would buy love out though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, HazletonEagle said: Isn't it saying Brooklyn would buy love out though? They definitely mean Cavs and would for sure save them money in the long term. They owe him 31 and 28 the next two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: They definitely mean Cavs and would for sure save them money in the long term. They owe him 31 and 28 the next two years Oh OK. So they're talking Cavs buyout and sign with Nets. Makes some sense then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Redick and Ball are available for trade. Cant really imagine anything that makes sense when it comes to matching those salaries. JJ is only shooting 30% from 3 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said: Redick and Ball are available for trade. Cant really imagine anything that makes sense when it comes to matching those salaries. JJ is only shooting 30% from 3 this season. I'll use Mike Scott and that 8 million AL Horford trade expectation to get a legit piece. Not sure it's JJ at 36, dude never forgot how to shoot, but use it to get a piece for a few years and not a rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: I'll use Mike Scott and that 8 million AL Horford trade expectation to get a legit piece. Not sure it's JJ at 36, dude never forgot how to shoot, but use it to get a piece for a few years and not a rental. at JJs salary, and current shooting performance I wonder if he can be a buyout candidate to take a chance on. I dont know who would trade a matching salary for a 37 year old shooter who isnt shooting well at all. For legit pieces with those assets, Id like to see Hield, or Terrence Ross kicking Green to the bench and kicking Kork out of the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 JJ is a career 40% shooter and the league still knows that. A guy of his quality, you never lose that stroke. I saw Rivers is making 3 million next 3 years and maybe Knicks want to shed a bit of salary. Heavily protected 1st/Terrance Ferguson for Rivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: Isn't it saying Brooklyn would buy love out though? 1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said: Oh OK. So they're talking Cavs buyout and sign with Nets. Makes some sense then. Cavs buy out Love and Nets sign him as a FA. That's how I interpreted it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: at JJs salary, and current shooting performance I wonder if he can be a buyout candidate to take a chance on. I dont know who would trade a matching salary for a 37 year old shooter who isnt shooting well at all. For legit pieces with those assets, Id like to see Hield, or Terrence Ross kicking Green to the bench and kicking Kork out of the rotation. If you are keeping Ben then shooters are a priority over slashers. I don't know where you get matching money for Heidl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just a fansided idea. Nothing out there concrete to discuss right now. TIMBERWOLVES GET BEN SIMMONS MIKE SCOTT TERRANCE FERGUSON 76ERS GET MALIK BEASLEY RICKY RUBIO ANTHONY EDWARDS, JOSH OKOGIE 2023 1ST ROUND PICK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right4thePicking Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: Just a fansided idea. Nothing out there concrete to discuss right now. TIMBERWOLVES GET BEN SIMMONS MIKE SCOTT TERRANCE FERGUSON 76ERS GET MALIK BEASLEY RICKY RUBIO ANTHONY EDWARDS, JOSH OKOGIE 2023 1ST ROUND PICK I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: Just a fansided idea. Nothing out there concrete to discuss right now. TIMBERWOLVES GET BEN SIMMONS MIKE SCOTT TERRANCE FERGUSON 76ERS GET MALIK BEASLEY RICKY RUBIO ANTHONY EDWARDS, JOSH OKOGIE 2023 1ST ROUND PICK I thought you wanted shooters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: I thought you wanted shooters I didn't come up with this trade. But Beasley is a great shooter. Rubio is an upgrade as a true PG over Ben. Okogie is an excellent defender. Edwards is a guy who can create his own shot. And a pick. Good mix of skillets and young assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Sent my buddy that trade weeks ago, but was Vanderbilt instead of Rubio. Have liked Malik since his Nugget years. The team now has a glutton of 6'4" guards or small wings and not sure minutes to go around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right4thePicking Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Sent my buddy that trade weeks ago, but was Vanderbilt instead of Rubio. Have liked Malik since his Nugget years. The team now has a glutton of 6'4" guards or small wings and not sure minutes to go around We will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEagles4Life Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Right4thePicking said: We will be just fine. Trade away Scott and Harris gets hurt then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 simmons for beal...do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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