**Official Philadelphia 76ers Thread 2022/2023 Regular Season*

[mr_hunt]

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/08/02/2021-nba-free-agency-preview-rumors-buzz

· Don’t expect a quick decision on Ben Simmons. As has been reported, Philadelphia has been asking for a lot for Simmons. "Forget a Harden haul,” an exec in contact with Philadelphia told SI. "They want what Boston got for KG and Pierce.” The Sixers, though, seem to be in no rush, with Simmons under contract for the next four seasons and the market for Simmons, after last spring’s playoff debacle, relatively cool. Toronto is an option—Pascal Siakam, coming off a turbulent season, is available—while Philadelphia may choose to wait and see what happens in Portland. Many teams, frankly, are waiting to see what happens with Portland.

 

[Shepard Wong]

I hope Morey pulls some magic out of his ass but how do you construct a winning team for the coming season when 2 of your 3 "foundational" pieces may or may not be on the team.  I appreciate being flexible and open to change but I'm curious to see what interim moves get made and what kind of plan those moves are indicative of for this year.  

[JBENT87]

13 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

so our MLE

But we might need to replace Green, a starter. And who knows what holes may be created if we trade Simmons plus a bunch of other players to get a star.

I think spending the MLE on perimeter talent is far more important than a backup center. 

Perimeter talent is how you win in the NBA and we are devoid of perimeter talent for years and years. 

I know this isn't elite, but isn't Maxey, Thybulle, Springer "perimeter talent?" It's not incredible obviously but I don't think it's necessarily nothing, either. Springer feels very Maxey 2.0ish, a good BPA pick who should've gone sooner than he did. 

[Talonblood]

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

5 day old article but posting it since the report about the sixers being willing to trade harris recently came out. 

 

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article253085448.html

 

"A source with knowledge of the talks said Philadelphia also has shown interest (unrelated to Simmons), with other teams believed to be engaged on that front as well. A Hield deal of some sort, it seems, is likely on the horizon.”

Hield, 28, is entering the second year of the four-year, $86 million contract he signed in 2020. He is owed $22.5 million in 2021-21, $20.5 million in 2022-23 and $18.6 million in the final year of the deal.

The 76ers want an All-Star caliber player in return for Simmons. Hield doesn’t meet the criteria, but there are other possibilities. One league source — someone not affiliated with either organization — has suggested a deal involving Tobias Harris would make more sense, saying the 76ers might prefer to move Harris to clear salary cap space.

Harris, 29, is a 6-foot-8, 226-pound forward who averaged 19.5 points, 6.8 rebounds and 3.5 assists last season. He is owed $112.9 million over the next three seasons after signing a five-year, $180 million deal with the 76ers in 2019. One way for the Kings to match salaries would be to include Delon Wright ($8.5 million) in the deal.

Hield would provide much-need floor spacing for the 76ers, who feature All-Star center Joel Embiid, or the Lakers, who are trying to put the right pieces around LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Hield averaged 16.6 points, 4.7 rebounds and 3.6 assists last season. He shot 40.6% from the field and 39.1% from 3-point range, down from 43.1% in 2017-18 and 42.7% in 2018-19.

Thanks for posting this- I never saw that article before. At 1st glance, I would say no way the 76ers move Harris, especially because that's Doc's boy. But the $$ savings if they did do that trade? Well, he might be Doc's boy, but due to that $$, he isn't Morey's boy. 

[Talonblood]

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I think Buddy is underrated at this point in his career. He shoot 39% on 10.5 attempts last year, which is a really good number. Get him with a big who can give him open looks and should shoot low 40%.

Why the decision on LeBron wanting Russ over Buddy is a head scratcher to me. Lebron wins with shooters and the evidence shows that. 

Agree with the dumb LeBron choice of Russ over Buddy. It doesn't make sense to me. Russ can't shoot anywhere near what Buddy does.

[Talonblood]

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I think the market opens up at 6pm today and no Sixers news or rumors.

That's what sucks. Usually, someone has a hot tip, but there were none before the NBA draft, and there are none right before the FA market opens this evening. If they do nothing here, then a couple of things come to mind.

1. They are keeping Ben and possibly changing his position

2. They will wait until the 2021-2022 season is about to start,
    and trade him to a team that is desperate, due to an injury, etc.

[Talonblood]

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

i don't think cap space for 2021 is possible...i think they'd have to trade tobi or ben for a team with the cap space to absorb their entire contract...which is very unlikely.

hield is a very good 3 point shooter who can space the floor but i don't think that move alone helps much. it would need to be followed up with additional moves...like trading simmons. and i don't know that it would be a 1 for 1 harris for hield trade either.  

 

Just thinking about this a little more.
 

• They trade Harris for Buddy
   
• They keep Simmons and change
   his position to PF and Buddy SF
  
  Not saying it happens, but you get your shooting improved and keep
  you defensive specialist. As far as who plays point guard, that will
  have to be decided. Am I saying I want BS to stay on the team?
  
  Hell no.

[mr_hunt]

 

this will never happen but i love playing with the trade checker    

[mr_hunt]

morey better bump up his asking price. 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10009409-ben-simmons-ranked-top-defender-in-anonymous-nba-coaches-poll-amid-trade-rumors

[mr_hunt]

 

 

 

[DaEagles4Life]

16 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

 

 

 

 

[HazletonEagle]

2 hours ago, Blazehound said:

How does a Harris for Hield deal create cap space, at least for 2021?

Also, from a basketball standpoint, I don’t think that type of swap improves the 76ers. Who handles the ball in the half court? 

If hield makes less it creates a trade exception we can use,  even if we are still over the cap. 

[mr_hunt]

11 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

 

not bad, imo. better fits around embiid.  sac would probably want to give up bagley instead of barnes tho. 

[HazletonEagle]

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2946713-nba-sources-kyle-lowry-demar-derozan-emerge-as-pivotal-dominoes

 

More notes from around the league: 

• 

  The numbers floating around for Duncan Robinson’s next contract are an average annual value between $16 million and $18 million. 

• Lauri Markkanen is said to be on the Spurs’ radar while also generating interest from the Pistons. Kelly Olynyk has become frequently linked to Detroit as well. 

• Andre Iguodala appears to be one of the veterans that Golden State CEO Joe Lacob hinted at possibly joining the Warriors. League sources also told B/R that forward Paul Millsap would be amenable to joining Golden State or returning to Atlanta at the taxpayer mid-level ($5.9 million). 

• The Lakers, and Iguodala’s former agent Rob Pelinka, are said to be interested in the veteran wing as well. The Lakers have also been linked to Patty Mills, although his market would appear to be more robust than the veteran minimum spots they have to offer. 

• Veteran guard Danny Green is known to have interest in playing for the Heat. 

• Minnesota remains open to moving Taurean Prince after acquiring the forward from Cleveland, as the Timberwolves continue to look for reinforcements in their frontcourt. 

• Cory Joseph is expected to re-sign with the Pistons even though they waived him Saturday. 

• Gorgui Dieng has generated interest from the Suns and Spurs at around the bi-annual exception amount of $3.7 million. 

 

 

A green for Duncan Robinson swap makes a lot of sense. 

[DaEagles4Life]

11 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

not bad, imo. better fits around embiid. 

And you can start Thybulle because Barnes and Hield can shoot the 3 at a good clip. 

Still have no idea what they do with the lead guard position if Lillard doesn't come here.The options get more limited as FA starts. 

Dragic and Siakam for Ben after Dragic gets traded to the Raptors for Lowry? I still think if they could have had 4th pick and Siakam they should have done it. 

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

27 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

not bad, imo. better fits around embiid.  sac would probably want to give up bagley instead of barnes tho. 

still works even if they force you to take bagley  and at least bagley is an expiring contract that you can use to matchup in a trade at the deadline. i can’t imagine a lineup with curry, hield, Barnes, Simmons and embiid. You’d have 3 really bad defenders and Barnes who has been regressing defensively the last 3 years. Last 3 years was 113.8, 115.5 and 119. 

 

 

[DaEagles4Life]

Don’t expect a quick decision on Ben Simmons. As has been reported, Philadelphia has been asking for a lot for Simmons. "Forget a Harden haul,” an exec in contact with Philadelphia told SI. "They want what Boston got for KG and Pierce.” The Sixers, though, seem to be in no rush, with Simmons under contract for the next four seasons and the market for Simmons, after last spring’s playoff debacle, relatively cool. – via Chris Mannix @ Sports Illustrated

 

Teams in the market for Doug McDermott now expect the sharpshooter to command more than the $9.5 million mid-level. – via Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report

 

 

[Talonblood]

On 7/31/2021 at 12:52 PM, Khani1 said:

I hope not.  I would add him as the final piece but I don't want that contract if that is the only big move we make.

That big of a contract for an old man? No thanks. The NAME sounds good, but that player is in the rearview mirror now. Just like Dwight, this guy is about to have the worst season of his career, simply due to something that isn't their fault- aging. 35 years old in the NBA... you are now on the decline. There are no really good "Tom Brady-great-old-men" in the NBA.

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

Just now, Talonblood said:

That big of a contract for an old man? No thanks. The NAME sounds good, but that player is in the rearview mirror now. Just like Dwight, this guy is about to have the worst season of his career, simply due to something that isn't their fault- aging. 35 years old in the NBA... you are now on the decline.

Lowry is going to Miami anyway but yeah he’s a good name but he couldn’t stay healthy last year (maybe it’s the scheduling but i think it’s part that and part he’s 35) and his defensive rating was the worst of his career at 114.5. I tend to think he’s going to see a bigger decline and the heat are gonna get stuck in a bad contract. Especially when Butler i suspect the west and tear is eventually going to hit as well. They also want derozan or green. They are about to age a team in a year from now who could see all there guys take massive declines besides robinson (assuming he is re-signed) and bam and making a ton of money. 

[mr_hunt]

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

still works even if they force you to take bagley  and at least bagley is an expiring contract that you can use to matchup in a trade at the deadline. i can’t imagine a lineup with curry, hield, Barnes, Simmons and embiid. You’d have 3 really bad defenders and Barnes who has been regressing defensively the last 3 years. Last 3 years was 113.8, 115.5 and 119. 

 

 

i'm thinking sac wouldn't give up both barnes & bagley...probably just bagley.  so it would be harris for hield & bagley.  all speculation, of course. 

the deal doesn't look  nearly as good w/o barnes, imo.

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i'm thinking sac wouldn't give up both barnes & bagley...probably just bagley.  so it would be harris for hield & bagley.  all speculation, of course. 

the deal doesn't look  nearly as good w/o barnes, imo.

Frankly the kings i don’t think are tied to hield or Barnes. Gotta remember none of the guys in charge now we’re there when either of these guys got their deals. Barnes was atrocious on defense last year. 119 is one of the worse defensive ratings in the entire league especially for a guy playing as much as he does. I wouldn’t lose sleep over not getting Barnes. As much as he’s a solid offensive player his defense has gotten worse every year and now is one of the worst defenders in the league. Only reason I’d want bagley is a salary match at the deadline. 

[mr_hunt]

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly the kings i don’t think are tied to hield or Barnes. Gotta remember none of the guys in charge now we’re there when either of these guys got their deals. Barnes was atrocious on defense last year. 119 is one of the worse defensive ratings in the entire league especially for a guy playing as much as he does. I wouldn’t lose sleep over not getting Barnes. As much as he’s a solid offensive player his defense has gotten worse every year and now is one of the worst defenders in the league. Only reason I’d want bagley is a salary match at the deadline. 

good points...and it's difficult to speculate w/o knowing what other moves (simmons) will be made. 

[mr_hunt]

not directly sixers' related, but....

 

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A Spencer Dinwiddie to the Washington Wizards sign-and-trade has been heavily rumored over the past week but those plans have lost some momentum due to the Brooklyn Nets not signaling much interest in taking back either Kyle Kuzma or Montrezl Harrell on what is an already massive luxury tax bill.

The Wizards would like to move both Kuzma and Harrell.

Dinwiddie could still end up with the Wizards, but he now seems like the preferred point guard option for the New Orleans Pelicans if Kyle Lowry does end up with the Miami Heat.

There have also been reports of a two-year, $40 million offer from the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Dinwiddie suffered a partially torn ACL in December.

 

[mr_hunt]

kuzma, harrell, & kcp for harris would be amazing     shooting, needed depth...but tobi doesn't exactly have the same trade value as westbrook, so.....

 

 

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

24 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

not directly sixers' related, but....

 

 

Basically the wizards could miss out on dinwiddie and still trade some of those guys. Looking like things are gonna go well for them and beal down the road. 

also curious to see how KD, kyrie and harden respond to the nets putting that out there.  Easily could see them getting irritated knowing that going over the luxury tax and spending ridiculous over was always gonna happen. And now the nets decided to be against it.