5 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Out of the top 10 biggest playoff leads blown aren't like 4-5 of them by teams he coached?  I thought there was a stat posted here during the playoffs last season about it. 

I was following the last half of the 4th QTR on ESPN's gametracker when I had time to stop in front of the PC while doing stuff around the house.  I saw with a lead late they had all 5 starters in and was wondering why wouldn't you put in Thybulle for Curry for his D to help protect the lead?  Things like that make you wonder what Rivers is thinking, if he's thinking at all.  So they were up by 10 with 5:33 to go and got outscored 16-1 to close the game.  Pathetic.  Another blown double digit lead with less than half the 4th QTR remaining. 

 

In the 4th it was more an offensive issue. They didnt score for the last over 5 minutes of the game. 

D was an issue all of the 3rd quarter and in to the 4th. But the offense had been good enough to keep Brooklyn at arms length. The scoring drought really did them in.

11 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Out of the top 10 biggest playoff leads blown aren't like 4-5 of them by teams he coached?  I thought there was a stat posted here during the playoffs last season about it. 

I was following the last half of the 4th QTR on ESPN's gametracker when I had time to stop in front of the PC while doing stuff around the house.  I saw with a lead late they had all 5 starters in and was wondering why wouldn't you put in Thybulle for Curry for his D to help protect the lead?  Things like that make you wonder what Rivers is thinking, if he's thinking at all.  So they were up by 10 with 5:33 to go and got outscored 16-1 to close the game.  Pathetic.  Another blown double digit lead with less than half the 4th QTR remaining. 

 

Besides Doc Rivers just doing what he always does over the last decade in this game, the sixers when they make the Simmons trade have to get someone who can start and be a scorer. If you can replace green in the starting lineup and down the last couple minutes with a more consistent scorer it would help prevent a 16-1 run. It would also make you much deeper on your bench and a much better role for green at this stage of his career. 

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Besides Doc Rivers just doing what he always does over the last decade in this game, the sixers when they make the Simmons trade have to get someone who can start and be a scorer. If you can replace green in the starting lineup and down the last couple minutes with a more consistent scorer it would help prevent a 16-1 run. It would also make you much deeper on your bench and a much better role for green at this stage of his career. 

Green shouldnt have been in the game in that spot. I called it before those airballs. He really shoulda been pulled after 1, and especially after 2. 

But in the trade, its probably more important to get a true PG and get Maxey to the bench. 

You can also say a real PG may compose the offense in those last few minutes. Run something good. Get guys in the right spots. Or, know when to take it himself. There was one point when Maxey dribbled to a mid-range. Hesitated as if he was about to shoot (he had space and coulda went straight up in rhythm) but he passed to Embiid, who inexplicably took a fade away mid-range (and the fade wasnt necessary). Of course he missed. And I trust Maxey's mid range game. I thought that was a point in the game where we coulda had a bucket from Maxey, and maybe broke the seal. But, the drought continued.

Aside from that, those quick 3s by Green were completely unnecessary. And getting the ball to a struggling Embiid all the way at the snake logo just wasnt going to work. He needed easy buckets under the basket to get us going again. These are things a PG can take command of. 

 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Green shouldnt have been in the game in that spot. I called it before those airballs. He really shoulda been pulled after 1, and especially after 2. 

But in the trade, its probably more important to get a true PG and get Maxey to the bench. 

You can also say a real PG may compose the offense in those last few minutes. Run something good. Get guys in the right spots. Or, know when to take it himself. There was one point when Maxey dribbled to a mid-range. Hesitated as if he was about to shoot (he had space and coulda went straight up in rhythm) but he passed to Embiid, who inexplicably took a fade away mid-range (and the fade wasnt necessary). Of course he missed. And I trust Maxey's mid range game. I thought that was a point in the game where we coulda had a bucket from Maxey, and maybe broke the seal. But, the drought continued.

Aside from that, those quick 3s by Green were completely unnecessary. And getting the ball to a struggling Embiid all the way at the snake logo just wasnt going to work. He needed easy buckets under the basket to get us going again. These are things a PG can take command of. 

 

I think it depends on if they see Maxey as a long-term solution at the Point Guard position tbh. He was always going to have his growing pains and they might just live with that for a year in hopes that by the end of the year or next year it helps him progress and become what they envision at the position.

I’m not against them getting another point guard in the trade but i think you likely have to hope Portland trades CJ who’s more of a combo (morey wants lillard), kings to give up Halliburton or trade for d. Russell and i rather not have Russell. The trade that would’ve helped this year that they can’t make anymore is levert and brogdon cause could’ve moved maxey and green to the bench. 

Awful coaching by Doc cost them this game down the stretch. I have no idea why he didn't bring Embiid in after the Thybulle dunk TO since he was standing at the scorers table waiting to come in. Embiid stayed off for about another 2 minutes. He then proceeded to have the teams best player set screens while Danny Green chucked up airballs. I think he took one shot in that whole period. Then there was the failure of not challenging the charge. 

no accountability. 

Loss was 90% on Doc, 10% on Embiid. Jo needs to find a way to get in the low post, not settle for all these jumpers. I like that he has a mid-range game but it needs to be used to keep defenders honest to help him open up his chances underneath. 
 

And Doc… wow. Poor timeout usage, horrible rotations, failing to challenge an obvious charge. And the Danny Green love affair cost them. After his second air ball 3 he should have been benched and Kork brought in. 
 

With all that said, I still think the team is better without Simmons. 

Doc also blamed another coach for not using the challenge.

Didn't he just preach accountability, what a joke 

Danny Green was azzz at the beginning of last season too....I'm not too worried about that.  

I'm more worried about jojo's knees.

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

Danny Green was azzz at the beginning of last season too....I'm not too worried about that.  

I'm more worried about jojo's knees.

He was grabbing his knees the first game. 

In case everyone has not noticed, the 76ers are going nowhere fast.  And this isn't just a 2021 problem, it's this entire iteration of the process/Embiid era/nucleus of the team.  Going nowhere.  And no matter how much you can or want to blame Morey, there is no personnel decision or trade that can change it at this point.  The train has left the station.  This is written.

But...they can still find a way to trot Ben out in front of the home crowd.  That really should be the primary goal at this point.

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

no accountability. 

 As much as i can’t wait for them to trade Ben Simmons, just behind that is firing doc. He’s proven over the last decade to be a mediocre coach when it matters the most (being generous with some teams he had that came up way short or blew big leads/series). He’s also terrible with adjustments and rotations. If we have an underwhelming season i hope the only silver lining in it is that doc is canned afterwards 

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

In case everyone has not noticed, the 76ers are going nowhere fast.  And this isn't just a 2021 problem, it's this entire iteration of the process/Embiid era/nucleus of the team.  Going nowhere.  And no matter how much you can or want to blame Morey, there is no personnel decision or trade that can change it at this point.  The train has left the station.  This is written.

But...they can still find a way to trot Ben out in front of the home crowd.  That really should be the primary goal at this point.

Explain why because this team with a lead guard has enough talent to win a title. I don't think Joel will stay healthy enough to do it though. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 As much as i can’t wait for them to trade Ben Simmons, just behind that is firing doc. He’s proven over the last decade to be a mediocre coach when it matters the most (being generous with some teams he had that came up way short or blew big leads/series). He’s also terrible with adjustments and rotations. If we have an underwhelming season i hope the only silver lining in it is that doc is canned afterwards 

His rotations are absolutely horrendous. Still playing five bench guys to start the 4th when Nets have Harden playing. 

16 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Explain why because this team with a lead guard has enough talent to win a title. I don't think Joel will stay healthy enough to do it though. 

His rotations are absolutely horrendous. Still playing five bench guys to start the 4th when Nets have Harden playing. 

The 5 bench unit plays well. I have no problem with that. The starters in the last 5 minutes is what really sunk this team.

He should have had Joel in earlier, because he was way out of rhythm. And by that time the offense already was in a long drought, and Green hadnt scored since early 1st quarter. So for offense he should have had Kork in there. I felt that way even before Green shot those 2 air balls. It only made it even worse when he didnt sub after them.

18 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Explain why because this team with a lead guard has enough talent to win a title. I don't think Joel will stay healthy enough to do it though. 

 

Why do I have to explain it when you already did?

1.  They don’t have a lead guard…Ben Simmons still being here demonstrates that they also have no realistic pathway to obtaining one.

2.  Even if they do get one, you just said you don’t think Joel will be healthy enough to do it.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Why do I have to explain it when you already did?

1.  They don’t have a lead guard…Ben Simmons still being here demonstrates that they also have no realistic pathway to obtaining one.

2.  Even if they do get one, you just said you don’t think Joel will be healthy enough to do it.

Yep. Though I love Embiid his one flaw is fatal. Thats why I was not interested in giving him the super max. We will never win a title with him. He will never be healthy enough to do it.

It makes the most sense to take back a Brogdon level player and picks because the picks are the most important thing. Embiid will keep us in contention for a while, and that player will help too, but we need to be accumulating young talent and assets to be ready for when the team, or he, finally realizes its time to move on. 

You dont try to build a championship team around Embiid at this point. There is no such thing. We know that by now. 

Ill enjoy him while he is here but the goal needs to be building for the future for when he is gone. 

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Explain why because this team with a lead guard has enough talent to win a title. I don't think Joel will stay healthy enough to do it though. 

 

yeah...they had the almighty nets beaten if not for doc being an idiot....and that was without Ben or whatever they eventually get for him. 

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yep. Though I love Embiid his one flaw is fatal. Thats why I was not interested in giving him the super max. We will never win a title with him. He will never be healthy enough to do it.

It makes the most sense to take back a Brogdon level player and picks because the picks are the most important thing. Embiid will keep us in contention for a while, and that player will help too, but we need to be accumulating young talent and assets to be ready for when the team, or he, finally realizes its time to move on. 

You dont try to build a championship team around Embiid at this point. There is no such thing. We know that by now. 

Ill enjoy him while he is here but the goal needs to be building for the future for when he is gone. 

Great post.  Totally agree

Brogdon another 28 points last night. 8 assists. 8 rebounds.

This team would be awesome with him. And the pacers 1st round pick. They are 0-2 and not a good team.

Instead, we have Morey's circus. And a blown chance to show we are a title contender against an elite team we should have won against.

58 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Brogdon another 28 points last night. 8 assists. 8 rebounds.

This team would be awesome with him. And the pacers 1st round pick. They are 0-2 and not a good team.

Instead, we have Morey's circus. And a blown chance to show we are a title contender against an elite team we should have won against.

They are not a title contender.  Probably not even top 5 in the east

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yep. Though I love Embiid his one flaw is fatal. Thats why I was not interested in giving him the super max. We will never win a title with him. He will never be healthy enough to do it.

It makes the most sense to take back a Brogdon level player and picks because the picks are the most important thing. Embiid will keep us in contention for a while, and that player will help too, but we need to be accumulating young talent and assets to be ready for when the team, or he, finally realizes its time to move on. 

You dont try to build a championship team around Embiid at this point. There is no such thing. We know that by now. 

Ill enjoy him while he is here but the goal needs to be building for the future for when he is gone. 

If you don't give Embiid the max then who gets the max in your eyes? Joel is worth every penny he is signed for. Such a dumb take. 

Your solution is, The Process 2.0, which has absolutely failed. Not to mention the Thunder who are going that route are no closer to sniffing a play in game then when they traded Russ back in 2019.

11 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

If you don't give Embiid the max then who gets the max in your eyes? Joel is worth every penny he is signed for. Such a dumb take. 

Your solution is, The Process 2.0, which has absolutely failed. Not to mention the Thunder who are going that route are no closer to sniffing a play in game then when they traded Russ back in 2019.

Wrong. and wrong.

To answer the first question- not a guy who has never been healthy for a post-season.

And its far from the process 2.0. In the process the team purposely bottomed out to accumulate its own assets. Currently, we have Embiid and other good players, even good depth. You will remain competitive. And be able to compile assets at the same time. And IF Embiid stays healthy, they  might even be good enough to win it one of these years.

The truth is, those who want to build around Embiid for right now are the ones who are destined to repeat the process 2.0. When youve dumped all depth and assets to build around him and he is injured and you win nothing he will eventually be gone to. Like everything else youve traded away. And the team will have no hope. Such a dumb take. However, with the current rules in the NBA it will never be as likely to work as it was back then. The lottery is different. And we have learned the NBA is against it and will act against it. It has no chance of ever being repeated. But if you can do it while remaining competitive... thats what you need to try to do. 

 

So Kawhi isn't worth the max either then in your opinion. 

All NBA 3 times, All Defensive Team 3 times, 4 time All Star, runner up MVP last year. A top 5 to 8 player in the league right now and a generational type talent with his size and skill isn't worth the max. 

@JayEcho

Would be proud of your miserable take. 

31 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

So Kawhi isn't worth the max either then in your opinion. 

All NBA 3 times, All Defensive Team 3 times, 4 time All Star, runner up MVP last year. A top 5 to 8 player in the league right now and a generational type talent with his size and skill isn't worth the max. 

@JayEcho

Would be proud of your miserable take. 

Are you trying to make things up to look better in an argument? I seem to remember Kawhi winning an NBA finals. He has 2 titles. So you are wrong again.