[Ford] Lillard "would prefer" to stay on the West Coast if the Blazers decide to move on from the six-time All-Star

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

[Ford] Lillard "would prefer" to stay on the West Coast if the Blazers decide to move on from the six-time All-Star

Watch him get sent to the kings lol 

As a more casual fan, I respect what Morey is doing, to be honest.  

He's not caving into the pressure.  Every team in the league has players that decide they've either outgrown the team, are unhappy with the dynamic, and just want to walk to the franchise of their choosing.  Then that franchise just panders over some modest assets to the less fortunate franchise, which goes and sits in the corner for the next 5-10 years.

Simmons was building block #2 on this team and he's not going to unload him for a chance to develop his shot and become an elite player elsewhere unless he gets the original value...which is never going to happen.  But I respect the stand.

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

As a more casual fan, I respect what Morey is doing, to be honest.  

He's not caving into the pressure.  Every team in the league has players that decide they've either outgrown the team, are unhappy with the dynamic, and just want to walk to the franchise of their choosing.  Then that franchise just panders over some modest assets to the less fortunate franchise, which goes and sits in the corner for the next 5-10 years.

Simmons was building block #2 on this team and he's not going to unload him for a chance to develop his shot and become an elite player elsewhere unless he gets the original value...which is never going to happen.  But I respect the stand.

I respected him not caving to Simmons. But I completely do not respect how stupid he is to have so badly mis-valued him on the trade market. Morey is actively hurting the team at this point. 

"Hey Shaq, it’s hard to find extra soft Charmin right now. Got any hook ups?”

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

As a more casual fan, I respect what Morey is doing, to be honest.  

He's not caving into the pressure.  Every team in the league has players that decide they've either outgrown the team, are unhappy with the dynamic, and just want to walk to the franchise of their choosing.  Then that franchise just panders over some modest assets to the less fortunate franchise, which goes and sits in the corner for the next 5-10 years.

Simmons was building block #2 on this team and he's not going to unload him for a chance to develop his shot and become an elite player elsewhere unless he gets the original value...which is never going to happen.  But I respect the stand.

yeah...ben is the last card the sixers have left to play...he can't give him away for role players. 

32 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

yeah...ben is the last card the sixers have left to play...he can't give him away for role players. 

Role players are all he’s ever going to get for him. You aren’t getting a star or even a borderline star for Simmons at this point. You’re just not. Simmons has damaged his value so badly at this point  

So what is better… trading him for a couple of decent players than can help the team out, or just letting him continue to sit out and have nothing at all to show for it?

1 minute ago, nipples said:

Role players are all he’s ever going to get for him. You aren’t getting a star or even a borderline star for Simmons at this point. You’re just not. Simmons has damaged his value so badly at this point  

So what is better… trading him for a couple of decent players than can help the team out, or just letting him continue to sit out and have nothing at all to show for it?

i know what you're saying but morey doesn't believe that those are the only 2 options.  i'm okay with him being patient for a bit longer. 

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i know what you're saying but morey doesn't believe that those are the only 2 options.  i'm okay with him being patient for a bit longer. 

I’m just not good with wasting another year of Embiid’s prime. With his history and body type, it feels likely that his drop off will be a steep one when it happens and it could be any time. IF Embiid can stay healthy through the postseason, they could do some damage if they at least get a couple of quality players for Simmons, even if they aren’t "stars”.
 

That’s where I’m at. I don’t think you can keep Fing around and waste a year when the big man could hit the downward spiral quickly. Because as it stands when that happens, you might as well blow it up and work on building around Maxey.  

A week is a long time. All we heard until like 2 weeks ago was that Beal wasn't available. Now, apparently he is. Now Lillard fires are starting, even if he wants to be on the west coast. 

Frankly, so far, things are moving Morey's way.

45 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

yeah...ben is the last card the sixers have left to play...he can't give him away for role players. 

Garland and Love for Simmons over the summer was on the table. I bet he could have gotten Dejounte Murray as well. 

He might end up getting Beal but to pass on those two guys was foolish.

Earlier in the summer it was reported that Steph Curry that hyping up Garland as a next great guard so he wasn't some unknown or didn't have hype around him. 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

Garland and Love for Simmons over the summer was on the table. I bet he could have gotten Dejounte Murray as well. 

He might end up getting Beal but to pass on those two guys was foolish.

Earlier in the summer it was reported that Steph Curry that hyping up Garland as a next great guard so he wasn't some unknown or didn't have hype around him. 

I mean you and I were also hyping up garland too. Lol. 

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Garland and Love for Simmons over the summer was on the table. I bet he could have gotten Dejounte Murray as well. 

He might end up getting Beal but to pass on those two guys was foolish.

Earlier in the summer it was reported that Steph Curry that hyping up Garland as a next great guard so he wasn't some unknown or didn't have hype around him. 

yeah...garland & murray are playing great. would've been nice to have either IF they were really offered.  idk how they'd mesh with maxey though. with his development, i kind of want a wing creator in a simmons trade...traditional pg isn't as much of a need, imo. 

On 2/2/2022 at 10:08 AM, iladelphxx said:

 

 

I’m not a big Stephen A. fan, but my sense is that he’s spot on in this assessment.

I’m still a believer that Maxey can develop the PG skills he’s lacking. Right now, sure he is more of a two guard, but he’s been gradually improving over the course of the season as a PG running the offense. 

Over the last 7 games he’s averaging 7.28 assists per game in addition to his 18.4 PPG. 

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

yeah...garland & murray are playing great. would've been nice to have either IF they were really offered.  idk how they'd mesh with maxey though. with his development, i kind of want a wing creator in a simmons trade...traditional pg isn't as much of a need, imo. 

Everything I have heard and read Garland and Love were on the table. 

I really wouldn't care how it affected Maxey if had a chance to get either of those. Both are potential ALL Star Reserves tonight and still only 22, Garland, and 25, Murray. 

 

4 hours ago, vikas83 said:

A week is a long time. All we heard until like 2 weeks ago was that Beal wasn't available. Now, apparently he is. Now Lillard fires are starting, even if he wants to be on the west coast. 

Frankly, so far, things are moving Morey's way.

Exactly. 

You can tell who on here negotiates contracts for a living and understands leverage and gamesmanship. 

2 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Exactly. 

You can tell who on here negotiates contracts for a living and understands leverage and gamesmanship. 

IF he gets a bigger name player like Beal, hes not getting more value out of Simmons. Hes getting more value out of packaging other great assets along with Ben. Its not a win. But it looks better to those who dont really understand what it looks like when you flat out lose a negotiation. 

Morey to other other teams: I will give you this unpolished turd for your collection of vintage cars.

Other teams: No.

Other teams: Hey Daryl, we were thinking.. We would be willing to give you, not our entire collection, but 2 or 3 of our nicest cars, and we will buy you 1 more each year for the next 2 years. All for that unpolished turd you are offering.

Daryl: HA!!!!! HELL NO! ARE YOU CRAZY!?!?! This unpolished turd is worth your whole collection.

Morey: I will give you this unpolished turd, and 10 million dollars, and 1 or 2 of my nicest cars for your Lamborgini.

Other teams: Ok!

EMB 6ers thread: OMG!!! ZOMGZZZ!!! MOREY IS AMAZING AT NEGOTIATING! LOOK AT ALL THAT VALUE HE GOT FOR THE GOAT BEN SIMMONS!!!!! I ALWAYS KNEW WE COULD TRADE HIM FOR A SUPERSTAR! THATS ALWAYS WHAT HIS VALUE WAS! MOREY WAS RIGHT TO WAIT THIS OUT!!! SEE??? I AM EXPERT NEGOTIATOR!!! I KNEW MOREY'S PLAN ALL ALONG! WOW MOREYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

IF he gets a bigger name player like Beal, hes not getting more value out of Simmons. Hes getting more value out of packaging other great assets along with Ben. Its not a win. But it looks better to those who dont really understand what it looks like when you flat out lose a negotiation. 

Taping ankles is not like negotiating deals

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Taping ankles is not like negotiating deals

Im in charge. There is no place for negotiating in what I do. Luckily I understand basic logic so I can be good at my job. Its scary to think others may be negotiating without any logic. Hopefully not negotiating anything important.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im in charge. There is no place for negotiating in what I do. Luckily I understand basic logic so I can be good at my job. Its scary to think others may be negotiating without any logic. Hopefully not negotiating anything important.

You would get gutted like a fish if it were a multimillions dollar deal or at the poker table

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

You would get gutted like a fish if it were a multimillions dollar deal or at the poker table

....................... I would have no reason to ever do that stuff. Its not what I went to school for, and not what I do for a living.... You would be gutted like a fish if you tried to do my job.... and how does this pertain to Simmons, or Morey being an idiot and turning this in to a massive blunder? It does not....

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

....................... I would have no reason to ever do that stuff. Its not what I went to school for, and not what I do for a living....and how does this pertain to Simmons, or Morey being an idiot and turning this in to a massive blunder? It does not....

Has everything to do with it

Morey is patient and willing to let the river card play out