11 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Still wrong although you keep repeating it. By the time Hurts took over the writing was already on the wall about Wentz and Ped. Pity you keep harping on Hurts "taking the job". He was getting some experience reps in because the season was already gone, and so were Wentz and Ped. They could have let Wentz finish the season if they wanted to(it was already gone either way)

The team got new life with Hurts. Saw the defenders even play harder for him. Wentz demanded trade because he wasn’t coming out on top in any QB battle in the offseason. He’d lost the team. Hurts had clearly rallied them all behind him.

Haven’t heard much about Milton this offseason. Really was thinking he could have a massive season. Huge jump for the small school kid. Hoping being in the pro regime would create a monster this season.

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seen plenty of guys play here in their contract years. Sure it’s preferred by a player to cash in as early as possible. Especially guys that weren’t real high picks. But the FO probably is a bit gunshy after eating it with Wentz….that they were so sure was the guy. Laughed at Dallas while we paid Carson and they were trying to decide on Dak. I’d say obviously Hurts earned it in one way. He took the job of the guy they did pay all that. So in that light he easily should get the money. 

How many QBs you see play their last year of the contract here?    I know you are pleading your case for Hurts....but you know it's not the way they do things here.  Especially not with the QB.

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seen plenty of guys play here in their contract years. Sure it’s preferred by a player to cash in as early as possible. Especially guys that weren’t real high picks. But the FO probably is a bit gunshy after eating it with Wentz….that they were so sure was the guy. Laughed at Dallas while we paid Carson and they were trying to decide on Dak. I’d say obviously Hurts earned it in one way. He took the job of the guy they did pay all that. So in that light he easily should get the money. 

I don't know why you just miss things.   Is the front office really gun shy after Wentz?  Wow they didn't have him first one year, but actually saved a little cap space that if he stayed here.  They would have saved money and a 6th round pick for Minshew...the money is a wash...they lost a 6th round pick.     But look at the assets that they got from trading Wentz?    Figure it all out.  The 3rd let them move up for Smith, which enabled them to draft Milton with the other 3rd.   The 16th pick this year was flipped for the 3rd that allowd them to trade for Brown, but kept the pick they used for Dean... plus a 1st round pick next year and a 2nd round pick in 2024.   

They are gun shy after getting all that?  Why.. because of dead money last year instead of if it was a little more money that wasn't dead?   Bit they got a year for Hurts to get his feet wet... and all those picks.

Dallas...hasn't been able to sign free agents in how long?   And a nice $49 mil cap hit coming.  They lost guys this year,  we were able to sign Redick and trade and pay Brown.  Didn't lose anyone that we wanted to keep. 

I don't get your reasoning... the only thing the Eagles aren't sure of yet is if Hurts is good enough.  Once they think he is, they will jump at the chance to sign him early. 

 

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody thinks Brady has a cannon arm. Like Brees. Arguably the two best at the position. Both totally doubted whether they had enough to even be in the league. Both had that leadership and all the intangibles though. They had that drive and competitive spirit. Worked worked worked to get better. Can’t thread the needle from distance like Favre  did. Don’t take the chances him and ARod do. But they get the best out of most around them. Guys like Murray….went number one. Got supreme talent. But do they make those around them better? I don’t see it. Just stud players playing as an individual. Football has proven time and time again….eleven guys working together is bette than more talented individuals they face. Definitely a team sport. Nobody even doubts our QB1 with any of this. So I’d say if he can match the GOAT numbers for his same point in his career I’m riding with him. Only way I balk at this point is if DCs figure him out and stop him. Which is totally possible. But if he throws for the 3,700 yards TB12 did at the same point in his career. With a decent TD to int ratio….I have no problem rolling with him. He’s our guy.

Brady has a pretty strong arm.   Videos of him throwing the ball over 60 yards.  He throws the deep out well.   

See your problem.....2 levels of arm... cannon and everything else.    There are other levels of arm strength....weak arm being one of them.  That is what Hurts demonstrated so far... weak... not just ( not a cannon)   

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The team got new life with Hurts. Saw the defenders even play harder for him. Wentz demanded trade because he wasn’t coming out on top in any QB battle in the offseason. He’d lost the team. Hurts had clearly rallied them all behind him.

What life was that? The season was already over. Hurts had taken some in game snaps all year. Howie was already against Ped and Wentz by then(because of the crap season I assume-which includes EVERYONE as you keep saying) So may as well let the other guy play because there was nothing to lose at that point. Hurts got the job by default. They could have left wentz play out the season,but he was already done by then,not hard to figure out the rest of the team knew what was coming, so of course they would all want the change. I'm glad Hurts is a "nice guy",but that's not going to be enough. Hurts went 1-3 that year as starter after "taking Wentz's job" so IDK what life you mean LOL

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-career-win-loss-record-as-starter     All most of us are saying is, look at his % history all over the place. Alot of good ones last year were vs 3rd stringers. All he needs to do this year is back up those numbers against teams at 100%. Not tough to follow. Do I think he can? Hard to know, but he has no excuses now. We got him every tool he needs. From what I have read many say he has made good strides,but the proof is on the field not in shorts on 7 drills. Do I think we sign him long term? Again IDK what the FO set the bar at. Would be tough to make a case to replace him with an 11 win/division win record. I expect 10 wins,but it he sacrifices WR's and Goedert to run the ball alot, I don;t see the FO doing it. I suppose another bar would be 1 playoff win minimum,so nobody is against Hurts we just never lowered our bar like you did

Average

.474

17.6

29.7

59.1

213.8

7.2

1.1

3.7

0.6

2.1

1.9

10.7

84.8

 (from above link)  Numbers gotta come up significantly. A 59.1% completion average is not an NFL QB,at least not in my mind 

Lots of clips on Davis, Jurgens, Dean and Kyron;

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2022/6/10/23161720/eagles-all-22-film-review-kyron-johnson-intriguing-philadelphia-kansas-sam-linebacker-edge-rusher-ku

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Lots of clips on Davis, Jurgens, Dean and Kyron;

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2022/6/10/23161720/eagles-all-22-film-review-kyron-johnson-intriguing-philadelphia-kansas-sam-linebacker-edge-rusher-ku

Dudes definitely quick. maybe a change to S????

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kyron-johnson/32004a4f-4839-9463-5a91-e9248bbfbea0   

17 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Still wrong although you keep repeating it. By the time Hurts took over the writing was already on the wall about Wentz and Ped. Pity you keep harping on Hurts "taking the job". He was getting some experience reps in because the season was already gone, and so were Wentz and Ped. They could have let Wentz finish the season if they wanted to(it was already gone either way)

No it was Hurts winning the job....lol.

Here’s the stark reality: Only four teams passed for fewer yards than the Eagles did in their last 11 games. Even as the Eagles went 7-4, Hurts averaged just 184.9 yards passing with eight touchdowns, five interceptions, 14 sacks, and an 85.9 QB rating. Hurts averaged a mere 25 pass attempts during that stretch. This wasn’t a matter of Steichen dusting off the old Justin Herbert playbook. This was Sirianni recognizing what kind of team the Eagles needed to be in order to win, and that such a team required him to be a head coach rather than a play-caller. 

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I don't know why you just miss things.   Is the front office really gun shy after Wentz?  Wow they didn't have him first one year, but actually saved a little cap space that if he stayed here.  They would have saved money and a 6th round pick for Minshew...the money is a wash...they lost a 6th round pick.     But look at the assets that they got from trading Wentz?    Figure it all out.  The 3rd let them move up for Smith, which enabled them to draft Milton with the other 3rd.   The 16th pick this year was flipped for the 3rd that allowd them to trade for Brown, but kept the pick they used for Dean... plus a 1st round pick next year and a 2nd round pick in 2024.   

They are gun shy after getting all that?  Why.. because of dead money last year instead of if it was a little more money that wasn't dead?   Bit they got a year for Hurts to get his feet wet... and all those picks.

Dallas...hasn't been able to sign free agents in how long?   And a nice $49 mil cap hit coming.  They lost guys this year,  we were able to sign Redick and trade and pay Brown.  Didn't lose anyone that we wanted to keep. 

I don't get your reasoning... the only thing the Eagles aren't sure of yet is if Hurts is good enough.  Once they think he is, they will jump at the chance to sign him early. 

 

Who did we sign last year? Wilson and Harris. Should have cut both. Had nothing.

Dallas was going for it last year. We were digging out of the hole. They should have been a contender. But they suck at HC hire.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

How many QBs you see play their last year of the contract here?    I know you are pleading your case for Hurts....but you know it's not the way they do things here.  Especially not with the QB.

I just don’t see what could happen to get that deal done next year. You can talk all you want about the best ways. But you gotta have a crystal ball. You never seem to put yourself out there about the future. Practically live in the hindsight.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Brady has a pretty strong arm.   Videos of him throwing the ball over 60 yards.  He throws the deep out well.   

See your problem.....2 levels of arm... cannon and everything else.    There are other levels of arm strength....weak arm being one of them.  That is what Hurts demonstrated so far... weak... not just ( not a cannon)   

I don’t see Brady throwing long dart lasers. That’s the main thing I think of with arm strength. Throwing it so the DB can’t break on it.

 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What life was that? The season was already over. Hurts had taken some in game snaps all year. Howie was already against Ped and Wentz by then(because of the crap season I assume-which includes EVERYONE as you keep saying) So may as well let the other guy play because there was nothing to lose at that point. Hurts got the job by default. They could have left wentz play out the season,but he was already done by then,not hard to figure out the rest of the team knew what was coming, so of course they would all want the change. I'm glad Hurts is a "nice guy",but that's not going to be enough. Hurts went 1-3 that year as starter after "taking Wentz's job" so IDK what life you mean LOL

You stick by your franchise guy. Just paid him a ton. You suck up the hard times. But the facts were that Pedey won more without Wentz. Hurts came in and without a doubt lit a fire under the team. Took the job. At first it was …oh just did the one fake against the Saints ti see what happens. Then another game. Then finish the season taking the job. Then they could had a QB competition in the offseason but Wentz knew he had lost the team. Hurts has already taken the job. The short guy from the second round that didn’t have a mega arm was a better option. Now year three…..another year the haters spew just a one year tryout for Hurts. He just keeps stepping up and proving everybody against him wrong. Love the way he does it…classy…not in your face.

Brady has thrown six touchdowns of 35-plus yards in the postseason, the longest a 63-yard pass to Ben Watson in 2006. He threw two 60-plus yard touchdown passes to Branch (2005 and 2012)     Brady sucks

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You stick by your franchise guy. Just paid him a ton. You suck up the hard times. But the facts were that Pedey won more without Wentz. Hurts came in and without a doubt lit a fire under the team. Took the job. At first it was …oh just did the one fake against the Saints ti see what happens. Then another game. Then finish the season taking the job. Then they could had a QB competition in the offseason but Wentz knew he had lost the team. Hurts has already taken the job. The short guy from the second round that didn’t have a mega arm was a better option. Now year three…..another year the haters spew just a one year tryout for Hurts. He just keeps stepping up and proving everybody against him wrong. Love the way he does it…classy…not in your face.

LMAO who said he was MY franchise guy? Putting words in my mouth to prove a point is stupid and it never happened. He(Hurts) "lit a fire" and went 1-3,WOW AMAZING STUFF!!! Just facts buddy

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You stick by your franchise guy. Just paid him a ton. You suck up the hard times. But the facts were that Pedey won more without Wentz. Hurts came in and without a doubt lit a fire under the team. Took the job. At first it was …oh just did the one fake against the Saints ti see what happens. Then another game. Then finish the season taking the job. Then they could had a QB competition in the offseason but Wentz knew he had lost the team. Hurts has already taken the job. The short guy from the second round that didn’t have a mega arm was a better option. Now year three…..another year the haters spew just a one year tryout for Hurts. He just keeps stepping up and proving everybody against him wrong. Love the way he does it…classy…not in your face.

You need to take your comedy on the road. Wentz was out of Philly the moment he was benched,sorry you cant understand this LOL. Season was already gone and so were Wentz and ped. Hurts "inherited" the job,now we need to see him play well vs GOOD teams at FULL strength not the 50% ers he faced last year

51 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here’s the stark reality: Only four teams passed for fewer yards than the Eagles did in their last 11 games. Even as the Eagles went 7-4, Hurts averaged just 184.9 yards passing with eight touchdowns, five interceptions, 14 sacks, and an 85.9 QB rating. Hurts averaged a mere 25 pass attempts during that stretch. This wasn’t a matter of Steichen dusting off the old Justin Herbert playbook. This was Sirianni recognizing what kind of team the Eagles needed to be in order to win, and that such a team required him to be a head coach rather than a play-caller. 

If you think these stats will win a SB more power to you

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Only four teams passed for fewer yards than the Eagles did in their last 11 games

Don't see Wentz mentioned here so had to be your boy lol

58 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No it was Hurts winning the job....lol.

My bad, sorry I am clueless. I will try harder

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Average

.474

17.6

29.7

59.1

213.8

7.2

1.1

3.7

0.6

2.1

1.9

10.7

84.8

 (from above link)  Numbers gotta come up significantly. A 59.1% completion average is not an NFL QB,at least not in my mind 

Clearly improved his completion percentage last year.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

No it was Hurts winning the job....lol.

Clearly. Just no doubt the whole team was behind him.