8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To the playoffs and beyond…if only they had Hurts instead of your boy Chokes-a-lot.

??? When did Taylor carry the Colts to the playoffs? 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I absolutely did. Pacheco gave them huge success. Best RB on the SB field. Made huge plays. 
  Dallas: Zeke bruised forward for a few yards. Pollard came in…and watch out…he’s a playmaker. Can hurt you. Completely different Dallas team without Pollard. DC completely different approach to the different RBs.

Yes...Pacheco... I was talking about the 1st round RBs for KC..they did nothing all year.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m fine with those options backing up our quality starter or two ….above them.

We cant afford a top RB this year

46 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Those RBs didn't do much.  

Again... AR burned timeouts...do we want to follow that too.    If you make a point... show where it translated to the team having success. 

Mixon...or no Mixon.   Sanders or no Sanders.   Eagles success or Dallas success?    Jonathon Taylor's team success?   Chubb and Henry's team success. Henry with and without AJ?

Carolina's success with and without CMC.  

Look at all these things from a perspective of just winning.  Not,I just want a stud RB room or stud DB room just to have it for flash and sizzle. 

So how does Chubb hurt a team? Having a good RB isn’t good now? You way extreme now. Watson gets back to balling Chubb will be crucial to their success. 
 I said exactky the run game and pass game aid each other. We don’t have a RB. We have two very good WR and a TE. We have pass catching. Why be so determined to bail on our dominant rushing attack? You know it will work. A good RB will annihilate the opponent. Why risk that advantage so deliberately? Upgrade it! 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2022 Eagles had elite Sanders play…until they didn’t…and lost.

Lol... the rushing game was better in 2021.  The Eagles offense was at its peak in 2022 playoffs...3 games over 100 points. Sanders wasn't a factor. 

Sanders isn’t a factor.  He is along for the ride.  He's last 2 years tops in Carolina. 

I’m not saying I actually would do this but….imagine we took Robinson at 10 and Gibbs at 30. Does anybody not see us rushing the ball all over everybody? Dominating and controlling! So easy! Can’t imagine anybody has any question how dominant we’d be.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So how does Chubb hurt a team? Having a good RB isn’t good now? You way extreme now. Watson gets back to balling Chubb will be crucial to their success. 
 I said exactky the run game and pass game aid each other. We don’t have a RB. We have two very good WR and a TE. We have pass catching. Why be so determined to bail on our dominant rushing attack? You know it will work. A good RB will annihilate the opponent. Why risk that advantage so deliberately? Upgrade it! 

Again...stop twisting.  Who ever said a RB hurts a team?   This is what you do constantly...spin the words.

There is a huge difference in saying the RB has minimal impact ....vs " hurting a team"

Stop it.  Have an adult conversation without twisting words.  

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not saying I actually would do this but….imagine we took Robinson at 10 and Gibbs at 30. Does anybody not see us rushing the ball all over everybody? Dominating and controlling! So easy! Can’t imagine anybody has any question how dominant we’d be.

Lol...do you see us winning?  Again.. show me where the big difference in TEAM SUCCESS ...where it's elite RB over the solid RB?

Then look at the difference where it's elite QB, receiving group or OL vs just the solid ones?

You are in love with the flash part of the game.

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes...Pacheco... I was talking about the 1st round RBs for KC..they did nothing all year.

You could easily say he was the difference in the game. We really got nothing from our RB room with Sanders hurt. So obvious. Crushing! If we had Pacheco we win

We have an all world unique QB...never anything like him before.  Let's pay him 50 mil a year...300 mil over the next 6 years...so he can hand the ball off???

We probably won't win any titles . .but boy look at our RB room and some RB rushing stats.  

46 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right... so why would another team pay...you get that part?

We’ll see. Cap charge being large isn’t the same as worth.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You could easily say he was the difference in the game. We really got nothing from our RB room with Sanders hurt. So obvious. Crushing! If we had Pacheco we win

Right...so you could easily say we can get a RB day 3. 

Again... let's say we can upgrade both RB and WR.   Pick 10 and pick 94 ....which did you feel would be the better way to go?

37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sanders got more carries because Howard was gone.  Sanders himself got more yards... didn't make the rushing game better.   2021 was a better rushing game for us.   The difference between the two years was the improved passing offense in 2022. 

We don't need one RB getting the stats.  It's clear as day.

Because you are talking big season stat. Meaningless in that one play scenario. Or gotta kill the clock for three minutes to win. We don’t have that guy I rely on there. Sanders wasn’t Hall of Fame…upgrade it.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We’ll see. Cap charge being large isn’t the same as worth.

Is this guy a top safety or washed up?  The safety market didn't pay much this offseason.  

Is he good and how much is he worth.  Would you pay a little less if he wanted to come here for a discount? 

 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Because you are talking big season stat. Meaningless in that one play scenario. Or gotta kill the clock for three minutes to win. We don’t have that guy I rely on there. Sanders wasn’t Hall of Fame…upgrade it.

We ran out the clock fine all year.   The end result...a couple of key passing plays cost us.

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You get WR at ten and RB at 94 ... or  RB at ten and WR at 94.   Where do you see a better upgrade? 

I’m not taking a RB at 10. But our O is missing RB. I’d like two guys above anybody we currently have.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not taking a RB at 10. But our O is missing RB. I’d like two guys above anybody we currently have.

Can't ever answer direct questions. 

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right...quality...NFL level solid RB.. I want 3 of those... put them in the right situation behind our OL and they will dominate like 2021.  Yet the better success was 2022 with the better passing game.

Bring them in. Let Gainwell compete for fourth.

• Anthony Bradford, Offensive Tackle, LSU (COM)
• Julius Brents, Cornerback, Kansas State (COM)
• Gervon Dexter, Defensive Tackle, Florida (COM)
• Paris Johnson, Offensive Guard, Ohio State (PRI)
• Dawand Jones, Offensive Tackle, Ohio State (PRI)
• Marvin Mims, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma (COM)
• Wanya Morris, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma (COM)
• Kelee Ringo, Cornerback, Georgia (COM)
• Bijan Robinson, Running Back, Texas (PRI)
• Jaquelin Roy, Defensive Tackle, LSU (PRI)
• Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Quarterback, UCLA (COM)
• Byron Young, Defensive Tackle, Alabama (COM)

4 guys brought in for private so far

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

38 points...how many passing TDs... or first down conversions did KC make via pass... compared to Pacheco?

What RB plays did we create? What better way to keep Mahomes off from scoring 38. Surely you’ve heard of this very old and proven strategy.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Bring them in. Let Gainwell compete for fourth.

Our best RB to end the season last year... 2 years where we had Scott and Gainwell in there and we were top rushing team...yet no faith because Sanders was so good running on early downs. Lol

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What RB plays did we create? What better way to keep Mahomes off from scoring 38. Surely you’ve heard of this very old and proven strategy.

Let him score 38...we should have scored 42 ...that was how the game was going.  I'm not fearing any team.. I give my 50 mil QB the tools to outscore him.  No punts 

22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again... it's obvious better players help.  It's also obvious...or should be that different positions have more impact. 

The OL vs DL.   One weakness in an OL could have more effect.   5 solid guys can work.   DL, one elite guy can have more effect as it causes double teams etc.  

DBs...one weakness can be a problem.   One guy who can't cover.   WRs..one elite one can create the double team and makes it easier for everyone else.

I don't see the impact of an elite rusher.  It doesn't translate in today's game.  Taylor, Henry,Chubb..etc.    That RB will have more impact if he is a pass catching threat to cause cover mismatches.  It was CMC's big impact in SF...and in Dallas the biggest RB impact was Pollard in the passing game.  

If you give me a RB that creates that mismatches at pick 10 like CMC or Pollard... then it's something i could consider.  But I just think the stud WR already does that...and the rushing part can have the solid committee.

I’ve said WR is valued over RB. Again. Not at all what we are talking about here. Want AJ over Sanders. We have AJ…now need a RB. Just can’t be hard at all to imagine and envision what a quality RB will do for us. A given. Don’t just give away our domination over neglect. 

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We cant afford a top RB this year

Nonsense