It fills me with a mixture of sadness and laughter that many people choose to take health guidance from anyone other than health experts.  It's so damn simple today to read and get advice and education from the world's best epidemiologists and infectious disease professionals with decades of experience.  Consult a medical professional.  Ask questions.  Do research on your own.  Put your agenda and biases aside for your own well being.

It's really amazing that some people choose to be so dense.  You'd think athletes, whose livelihoods depend almost entirely on their health, would be better.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Pfizer. 

 

Wrong

If you are worried about the risk of exposing yourself to chemicals you better not google about the exposure to chemicals from playing golf.  

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It fills me with a mixture of sadness and laughter that many people choose to take health guidance from anyone other than health experts.  It's so damn simple today to read and get advice and education from the world's best epidemiologists and infectious disease professionals with decades of experience.  Consult a medical professional.  Ask questions.  Do research on your own.  Put your agenda and biases aside for your own well being.

It's really amazing that some people choose to be so dense.  You'd think athletes, whose livelihoods depend almost entirely on their health, would be better.

And those athletes have access to the cream of the crop in the medical field.

Too many people think the vaccine was rushed when the actual reason is just funding. So much money was thrown into Covid and everyone who could was looking into a vaccine. It’s amazing what science can do when giving enough of a budget to do it.

At least all this vaccine talk was enough of a distraction for no one to complain about the Cleveland Guardians 

 

1 minute ago, MillerTime said:

 

They are both coming to the Eagles with Watson and Hopkins! 

@RememberTheKoy here is the form that I signed before my Moderna vaccine.  Please tell me where it says it is experimental.

https://www.walgreens.com/images/adaptive/si/pdf/1624373-0331_FY21_COVID19_VAR_OffSite_ENG.pdf

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

@RememberTheKoy here is the form that I signed before my Moderna vaccine.  Please tell me where it says it is experimental.

https://www.walgreens.com/images/adaptive/si/pdf/1624373-0331_FY21_COVID19_VAR_OffSite_ENG.pdf

 

I didn't get Moderna nor did I get it at Walgreens.  

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

At least all this vaccine talk was enough of a distraction for no one to complain about the Cleveland Guardians 

I like it.  Now everyone in the Galaxy who was lining up for it will have to find another team name.

Washington Guardians actually would have been a lot better than what they did -- which was nothing.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

I like it.  Now everyone in the Galaxy who was lining up for it will have to find another team name.

Washington Guardians actually would have been a lot better than what they did -- which was nothing.

Washington Whatchamacallit's

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I didn't get Moderna nor did I get it at Walgreens.  

So what did you get, and where ??  I am sure the google machine will have no problem finding the form you signed.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

So what did you get, and where ??  I am sure the google machine will have no problem finding the form you signed.

Pfizer at CVS

Thread owner, "Please stop the vaccine debate.  Those that are informed know who they are.  Those that aren't informed don't know who they are.  It is fruitless.  Now lets get back to Eagles football."

49 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I have received both Moderna shots.  I read the entirety of the form before I signed it.  There was absolutely nothing about it being experimental. 

You are correct: https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download

But it does say this: The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine.

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

At least all this vaccine talk was enough of a distraction for no one to complain about the Cleveland Guardians 

I want to know when the Chiefs get hit with a name change.

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Pfizer at CVS

Please show us where it says it is experimental.

https://info.omnicare.com/rs/095-VIX-581/images/COVID 19 Vaccine Intake Fillable Consent Form.pdf

4 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

You are correct: https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download

But it does say this: The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine.

Yes, still pending FDA approval.  Clinical trials have been completed, and it is not experimental.

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Please show us where it says it is experimental.

https://info.omnicare.com/rs/095-VIX-581/images/COVID 19 Vaccine Intake Fillable Consent Form.pdf

Yes, still pending FDA approval.  Clinical trials have been completed, and it is not experimental.

 

There is a separate form I had to sign concenring to it since it was EUA and not FDA approved. 

 

https://www.northwell.edu/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine/frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=Vaccines that receive EUA are,several months after vaccination.

 

Why is the COVID-19 vaccine considered experimental?

Vaccines that receive EUA are considered experimental until the FDA formally approves it. It is possible that a rare side effect will be found after mass vaccination allows a longer term of observation on a larger number of people, but most side effects are picked up in the first several months after vaccination.

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Pfizer at CVS

I did the same. Nothing that said it was experimental. 
 

You sure you didn’t get some back alley injection? 

56 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Saints are gonna be a mess this year and Peyton's gonna be exposed as the terrible coach he is

Payton

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Thread owner, "Please stop the vaccine debate.  Those that are informed know who they are.  Those that aren't informed don't know who they are.  It is fruitless.  Now lets get back to Eagles football."

It's going to be brought up throughout the season. May as well embrace it now

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There is a separate form I had to sign concenring to it since it was EUA and not FDA approved. 

I am done doing all the leg work.  Wanna show us that form ??

Just now, downundermike said:

I am done doing all the leg work.  Wanna show us that form ??

 

I don't care dude.  You are irrelevant to me.  I know what I signed if you don't believe me then I don't care.  You could disappear off the face of the planet tomorrow and I wouldn't think anything of it. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I don't care dude.  You are irrelevant to me.  I know what I signed if you don't believe me then I don't care.  You could disappear off the face of the planet tomorrow and I wouldn't think anything of it. 

So you make a statement of fact, refuted with a mountain of evidence, and you wont back up that statement with facts of your own.

Fact, the vaccine is not experimental.

37 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Too many people think the vaccine was rushed when the actual reason is just funding. So much money was thrown into Covid and everyone who could was looking into a vaccine. It’s amazing what science can do when giving enough of a budget to do it.

They also built off of the significant research that had already been done on the SARS virus vaccine.  

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

So you make a statement of fact, refuted with a mountain of evidence, and you wont back up that statement with facts of your own.

Fact, the vaccine is not experimental.

 

Fact is it is. 

 

https://www.northwell.edu/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine/frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=Vaccines that receive EUA are,several months after vaccination.

 

Why is the COVID-19 vaccine considered experimental?

Vaccines that receive EUA are considered experimental until the FDA formally approves it. It is possible that a rare side effect will be found after mass vaccination allows a longer term of observation on a larger number of people, but most side effects are picked up in the first several months after vaccination.