12 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

What's the alternative? There are very few cities you can live and work without a car.

E-bikes, you can get a Harley: https://serial1.com/?utm_term=harley davidson serial 1&utm_campaign=Search+-+BRD+-+US&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=3262451613&hsa_cam=16127601794&hsa_grp=133966428718&hsa_ad=580669963335&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1022466341411&hsa_kw=harley davidson serial 1&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwo_KXBhAaEiwA2RZ8hMqF4WRgqwwQWhpy9wXmHGg53F0iqBWrnvXRILQA9xvT7AXq91sxVBoCBlEQAvD_BwE  

You don't really need an expensive charging station. Most of you could probably DIY a 240V outlet in you garage. That's all you need to charge up reasonably quickly while you're car is at home.  

The problem is up front cost of the car.

Not all are Tesla, but even the Kia EV is pretty pricy. 

8/17/22

 

The Blog tackles Greenhouse Gas emissions and solves the climate crisis.

Just now, Doc S. said:

They always seem to try to modify the Classic look of our old favorites to make em more streamlined, aerodynamic. whatever..

Leave the Winners alone! New Camaros look like CRVs, Malibus, Novas long gone, even Vets are getting the slice.

Shame!

I understand the refreshes every 7+ years or whatever it is. Styles change and they are trying to adapt and incorporate new technologies into the design. I do like the direction some of the car companies are going with more "retro" looking designs like the newer Bronco and the new Nissan Z that looks similar to the Datsun 240z

I don't like when they try to push a completely different vehicle as being the same, like the mustang mach-e. Just give it a different name. It's not a mustang.

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Building an appropriate infrastructure,  but that is rarely a priority.

How do you deal with all the NIMBY's? I've heard Texas is going to be building a high speed rail here for the last 20+ years and not a single mile of track has been laid. Only major cities between Boston and DC is it easier to travel by train than by car/air. I fully agree we need a significantly better infrastructure, but it's not happening any time soon. Cities are designed and built for car travel in the US. Until that changes, cars are going to be the primary mode of transportation.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I got a job at 14 to buy my own car at 16. 4000 cash for my 98 dodge neon coupe.

1 minute ago, wussbasket said:

I understand the refreshes every 7+ years or whatever it is. Styles change and they are trying to adapt and incorporate new technologies into the design. I do like the direction some of the car companies are going with more "retro" looking designs like the newer Bronco and the new Nissan Z that looks similar to the Datsun 240z

I don't like when they try to push a completely different vehicle as being the same, like the mustang mach-e. Just give it a different name. It's not a mustang.

 

 

Agree 100%.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

8/17/22

 

The Blog tackles Greenhouse Gas emissions and solves the climate crisis.

And learns which blog members have small peens drive muscle cars

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Creating a system where you're convincing everyone to get a car is the actual problem.

Not having reliable transportation and access to a car is synonymous with significant poverty in most states.  There just aren't economic opportunities or access to viable ones without a vehicle for most people.  It's not like people need to be convinced of the need to have one.  There isn't a transportation structure that supports not having a vehicle.  

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

8/17/22

 

The Blog tackles Greenhouse Gas emissions and solves the climate crisis.

Shall we move on to the existence of God and meaning of life tomorrow? 

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Damn Seattle got a baller

Which one of you is this? Lol

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Speaking of muscle cars.  I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV.  The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. 

I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all.  There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV.  It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them.  

I saw that the ceo is open to having a hybrid or all electric muscle car. Though muscle car heads will disagree that they should be called muscle cars then

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Shall we move on to the existence of God and meaning of life tomorrow? 

Baby steps. Football season is coming up so lets try to figure out the food shortage and supply chain issues. 

10 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Not having reliable transportation and access to a car is synonymous with significant poverty in most states.  There just aren't economic opportunities or access to viable ones without a vehicle for most people.  It's not like people need to be convinced of the need to have one.  There isn't a transportation structure that supports not having a vehicle.  

Shall we move on to the existence of God and meaning of life tomorrow? 

I think we should stay on the small penii thing. Looks like some of the posters have an interest in that.

Do the God thing later.

...and the Meaning of Life has already been done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mXVSnYyLA

 

49 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

Yeah, it's most effective there. As I said, a Reasonable person, off duty cop , well trained individual, etc  should not need to employ a weapon in most circumstances. What happens when a lunatic a hole starts shooting up the place? McDonalds, the local Deli, Your daughter's school bus stop?

Yeah, I'm glad my firearm is home nicely tucked away in my gun safe with the clip separated by 10 ft.  I will take my personal safety into my own hands, Thank you, and not rely on a 20 minute Police response.

This is a divisive issue, no doubt but I would rather sing over your grave than have you sing over mine. 

I have my own well thought out views on the gun debate that arent entirely in agreement with yours.

It's not a discussion I wish to have on this blog though I have before.

If you really do want to talk about our different view point PM me and I'll be more than happy to discuss that.

It's a topic I've had with many different people with varying views on guns from one end of the spectrum to the next .

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

 

That sounds awesome!

We went to garden of the gods and Silverton this summer, love Garden of the gods, reminds me alot of all the red rock in Utah.

Beautiful area I'm sure it makes for a great music venue 

 

Narrow Guage to Silverton or did you drive the Million Dollar "Highway "?  Garden of the Gods is great at sunrise. 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Baby steps. Football season is coming up so lets try to figure out the food shortage and supply chain issues. 

Stop eating too much fatty and you won't run out of food.  Also, not enough truckers. 

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Narrow Guage to Silverton or did you drive the Million Dollar "Highway "?  Garden of the Gods is great at sunrise. 

I'm not sure, we took a train ride up to a silver mine, did a tour of the mine, it was cool.

We stayed I believe in Silverton, we Airbnb with some friends, the house was really nice was a lot of fun.

Also did a hike up the side of the mountain where the WSU football team crashed.

I wasn't expecting much maybe a few pieces of scrap metal but there were whole landing gears up there and sections of the wings, lots of things people left for victims, football helmets, jerseys, photos, letters, stuff like that.

It was a sobering moment and also a place where one could feel people had come to peace with the incident.

That whole area of colorado is the closest thing I can get to that reminds me of the mountains back In Utah without going back to Utah.

 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Speaking of muscle cars.  I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV.  The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. 

I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all.  There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV.  It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them.  

Average vehicle on the road in the US is 13 years old. AVERAGE.  (Much older in other countries.)  Internal combustion engines will be around for a while but gas is really about where it should be given global demand.   Given the advancement in batteries, it makes sense to move toward EVs although at this point I am thinking my next car is the next generation plug in hybrid.  If you have ever driven an electric car, you have experienced real acceleration. No internal combustion engine can compete.  

1 hour ago, Doc S. said:

Not directed at you DBhawk, just putting this out there..

Gonna say this just once.

Carrying a gun is not about aggression, it is about self defense. A REASONABLE individual, properly trained, does not involve their gun in a shouting match. The weapon is available for life-threatening situations and to protect others from the same.

A REASONABLE individual will be extremely reluctant to employ their weapon.

On the other hand, don't break into my house or try to carjack me.

Get it?

But carrying to coach youth football?  Don’t see that as a self defense issue 

1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Just spend 80k and add a gennie.

 

You joke but they actually sell power packs that some EV drivers carry with them. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Speaking of muscle cars.  I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV.  The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. 

I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all.  There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV.  It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them.  

  Mopar or no car and I give them tons of credit for giving the middle finger to the establishment and going all out on insanely powered cars, trucks and SUV’s. They forced Chevy and Ford to up their game in the muscle car market. 
 Watch the video if you want to see what’s coming for their final year, even the Road Runner is returning. 
 

 

 

1 minute ago, The Blackfish said:

  Mopar or no car and I give them tons of credit for giving the middle finger to the establishment and going all out on insanely powered cars, trucks and SUV’s. They forced Chevy and Ford to up their game in the muscle car market. 
 Watch the video if you want to see what’s coming for their final year, even the Road Runner is returning. 
 

 

 

I read that as Moped.

 

6 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Average vehicle on the road in the US is 13 years old. AVERAGE.  (Much older in other countries.)  Internal combustion engines will be around for a while but gas is really about where it should be given global demand.   Given the advancement in batteries, it makes sense to move toward EVs although at this point I am thinking my next car is the next generation plug in hybrid.  If you have ever driven an electric car, you have experienced real acceleration. No internal combustion engine can compete.  

It's not all about acceleration...it's driving a car, hearing the engine.  

 

5 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

  Mopar or no car and I give them tons of credit for giving the middle finger to the establishment and going all out on insanely powered cars, trucks and SUV’s. They forced Chevy and Ford to up their game in the muscle car market. 
 Watch the video if you want to see what’s coming for their final year, even the Road Runner is returning. 
 

 

 

need a bigger middle finger and keep making them.  

7 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

  Mopar or no car and I give them tons of credit for giving the middle finger to the establishment and going all out on insanely powered cars, trucks and SUV’s. They forced Chevy and Ford to up their game in the muscle car market. 
 Watch the video if you want to see what’s coming for their final year, even the Road Runner is returning. 
 

 

 

Final year before the woke A-holes take over and they are no longer sold. Horrible. Freaking horrible.

16 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Stop eating too much fatty and you won't run out of food.  Also, not enough truckers. 

It's not my fault your Mom won't leave!

38 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Final year before the woke A-holes take over.

Even if you don't believe in climate change, we should, we are still running out of fossil fuels. There is nothing woke about it. It's factual and needs to be addressed on a systemic basis. On today's who is an expert on what theme, I have a PhD in chemical engineering, I'm happy to debate you on the global and historical effects of combustion and the timeline of fossil fuel resources. Personal use of natural resources is a personal choice but also one that cumulatively affects all people and the planet. That's not woke in the way you are invoking the term.