1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It was under seal and still is. This just means it can't be released to the public, at least not by the government.

Interesting 

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

It has been reported it was filed under seal, so even his lawyers don't know yet.

I’ve only seen the opposite reported. Where did you hear/read this? (I’m not calling you a liar). 

https://rumble.com/v1fdwzz-fbi-weaponization-ron-paul-was-right-in-1988.html?mref=4pvd7&mc=b2gay&fbclid=IwAR2agneESZW6fF33-fIGxpWA1586vbKuVPsA8Q94TMC9kZREdMUQW-KsnPg&fs=e&s=cl

1 minute ago, OCEaglefan said:

I’ve only seen the opposite reported. Where did you hear/read this? (I’m not calling you a liar). 

I'm guessing I read affidavit instead of warrant. All the stories seem the same and I'm only scanning them for new info.

8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Link?

The former president’s son Eric Trump said on Fox News on Monday night that federal investigators sought records that had not been handed over to the National Archives when his father left the White House. FBI agents would have left a copy of the search warrant, including an itemized list of what they sought and what was removed. Trump lawyer Christina Bobb told the Real America’s Voice streaming service that she was present during the search and agents told her they were looking for classified documents.

 

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2022-08-09/fbi-search-of-trumps-home-shows-seriousness-of-information-being-sought

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I was responding to the morons who think this was purely political.

Of course there's going to be a political benefit. Conventional wisdom would suggest that when the de facto leader of one of the major political parties steps on a rake and gets raided by the FBI, that it would help the opposition party.

In The Trump era I have no idea how to read this sort of situation. The mewling useful idiots who ride or die with Trump, who now include most of the right wing media, are going to interpret this as further evidence that Trump is just a victim. It may well help solidify support for Trump in some mindless really around the maga flag effect.

I'm not anywhere near ready to declare this a political win for the Democrats.

Strengthening Trump is a win for the Democrats. He's by far and away the weakest general election candidate among the GOP contenders. DeSantis would walk into the Oval Office at this point, but Trump likely loses again. Trump was losing steam among the GOP, and now they are all rallying to him again.

This wasn't politically motivated, and there's a 0.0% chance the Democrats would be smart enough to do this, but this is a massive win for Biden's 2024 reelection.  

4 minutes ago, OCEaglefan said:

I’ve only seen the opposite reported. Where did you hear/read this? (I’m not calling you a liar). 

Much is still unknown about the search warrant, which remains under seal, or the sworn statement that an FBI agent had to present to a magistrate judge to win court approval to search a former president's home.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-search-trumps-florida-home-was-by-book-ex-prosecutors-say-2022-08-09/

Just now, vikas83 said:

Strengthening Trump is a win for the Democrats. He's by far and away the weakest general election candidate among the GOP contenders. DeSantis would walk into the Oval Office at this point, but Trump likely loses again. Trump was losing steam among the GOP, and now they are all rallying to him again.

This wasn't politically motivated, and there's a 0.0% chance the Democrats would be smart enough to do this, but this is a massive win for Biden's 2024 reelection.  

It honestly works in Trump's/Dems favor on both ends here.  Not only does it strengthen his position in the GOP, but it absolutely destroys DeSantis's.  Read the far-right rantings out there.  They blame DeSantis, saying he would've had to sign off on it for something like this to happen in his state.  I have no idea if that's true, but either way, it's what they believe, which, in their warped minds, makes DeSantis a RINO.

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Strengthening Trump is a win for the Democrats. He's by far and away the weakest general election candidate among the GOP contenders. DeSantis would walk into the Oval Office at this point, but Trump likely loses again. Trump was losing steam among the GOP, and now they are all rallying to him again.

This wasn't politically motivated, and there's a 0.0% chance the Democrats would be smart enough to do this, but this is a massive win for Biden's 2024 reelection.  

So this strengthens Trump?

You are all drunk

You guys need to try not to think about Trump for a few days in a row to try and get your clarity of thought back

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Much is still unknown about the search warrant, which remains under seal, or the sworn statement that an FBI agent had to present to a magistrate judge to win court approval to search a former president's home.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-search-trumps-florida-home-was-by-book-ex-prosecutors-say-2022-08-09/

Thanks. I swore I read the warrant was as well but they are all blending into one 

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

It honestly works in Trump's/Dems favor on both ends here.  Not only does it strengthen his position in the GOP, but it absolutely destroys DeSantis's.  Read the far-right rantings out there.  They blame DeSantis, saying he would've had to sign off on it for something like this to happen in his state.  I have no idea if that's true, but either way, it's what they believe, which, in their warped minds, makes DeSantis a RINO.

Honestly where do you get this ish?  What cesspools of facebook do you frequent to come back and make statements like this?

Youre fooling yourself

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Thanks. I swore I read the warrant was as well but they are all blending into one 

It was, or at least that's what has been reported, in multiple articles I've seen...

To get judicial approval for the search, investigators would have had to present to a judge a detailed affidavit that would establish that probable cause exists to believe that a crime had been committed and that that evidence of that crime exists in recent days at the property where the search is being sought.

The search warrant would have been filed under seal, meaning that its details are not publicly available at the moment (though they could become public in the future). The federal courthouse in West Palm Beach lists only one sealed search warrant application since June that was still not closed as of Friday, according to the court's public register of cases.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-search-explainer/

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So this strengthens Trump?

You are all drunk

You guys need to try not to think about Trump for a few days in a row to try and get your clarity of thought back

it riled up his base, that's for sure. 

 

hell, it got you out of your cousin long enough to start rage posting in here nonstop like a mongo. 

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Honestly where do you get this ish?  What cesspools of facebook do you frequent to come back and make statements like this?

Youre fooling yourself

I read it in a link Procus posted last night, so, yeah, a far-right cesspool.  But far-right cesspools are where most modern Republicans get their news.

Just now, mr_hunt said:

it riled up his base, that's for sure. 

 

hell, it got you out of your cousin long enough to start rage posting in here nonstop like a mongo. 

11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It was under seal and still is. This just means it can't be released to the public, at least not by the government.

At the very least, Trump's attorney's have seen it... if they don't already have a copy.

 

15 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

This is the equivalent of jaywalking for a former POTUS. 

Dont be naive, think critically.

Jaywalking?

 

FFS, you deranged loonies have serious issues. If you were able to think critically, you would not call the theft of classified material as jaywalking.

On the other hand, a deranged Trump cultist, would.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

it riled up his base, that's for sure. 

 

hell, it got you out of your cousin long enough to start rage posting in here nonstop like a mongo. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Honestly where do you get this ish?  What cesspools of facebook do you frequent to come back and make statements like this?

Youre fooling yourself

Anything to this guy that isn't Bernie-approved is "far right".  To him, practically all Republicans are a danger to the country.  They've been so brainwashed.

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

it riled up his base, that's for sure. 

 

hell, it got you out of your cousin long enough to start rage posting in here nonstop like a mongo. 

But that wont really make a difference, will it?  His base being riled up isnt enough.

 

And, gross, man

1 minute ago, Procus said:

 

Anything to this guy that isn't Bernie-approved is "far right".  To him, practically all Republicans are a danger to the country.  They've been so brainwashed.

  I got it from your link, you dementia patient.

1 minute ago, Toastrel said:

Jaywalking?

 

FFS, you deranged loonies have serious issues. If you were able to think critically, you would not call the theft of classified material as jaywalking.

On the other hand, a deranged Trump cultist, would.

You don't think Bush, Obama, etc retained classified material?   Actually dont answer because youre a moron so I dont really care

18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

This is the equivalent of jaywalking for a former POTUS. 

Dont be naive, think critically.

 

Let me help out all of you progressives, TDSers, and former pretend Libertarians:

The proper play here was to request these documents via subpoena and then drag this out when they inevitably refuse to hand over the documents

 

No one really gives a ish about the national archives.  Do you?  Really?  No, you dont.

And did you miss when Trump was the president for 4 years?   What motivation does he have now to sell classified material, or whatever you think is going on here?

20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It was under seal and still is. This just means it can't be released to the public, at least not by the government.

Break that seal, amirite Tinkle Drinker?

Just now, mayanh8 said: