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FBI Raids Mar-A-Largo but ignores Pop Pop's much more egregious violations

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3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Someone should try picking on my degree that they paid for. I havent heard anything about that in a while. :roll:

 

It's been a few days since we brought up that time you said Joe Manchin, the senator from WV, was responsible for covid running wild in Florida. Remember that? Remember? 

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2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It's been a few days since we brought up that time you said Joe Manchin, the senator from WV, was responsible for covid running wild in Florida. Remember that? Remember? 

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yes. that was awesome. and very hurtful to hear brought back up again. You guys are so good at this!!

12 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I had no idea Trump University gave out masters degrees. That's interesting.

Edit:  @Boogyman beat me to it

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yes. that was awesome. and very hurtful to hear brought back up again. You guys are so good at this!!

We all can't be as well read and informed as you, HE. :roll: 

4 minutes ago, paco said:

Edit:  @Boogyman beat me to it

From what he has said, is seems he has made about as much money off his degree as the people who signed up for Trump U did.

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

From what he has said, is seems he has made about as much money off his degree as the people who signed up for Trump U did.

Did we ever learn what his majors were?

Just now, Paul852 said:

Did we ever learn what his majors were?

No. I asked and he didnt say. And since he is at least mildly retarded its impossible to guess.

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

No. I asked and he didnt say. And since he is at least mildly retarded its impossible to guess.

My guess would be some type of Psychology degree

1 hour ago, Procus said:

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-raid-mar-a-lago-precedent-20220815.html

The raid on Trump’s house could set a dangerous precedent

A nation can move pretty quickly from one where no ex-president has ever gone to jail to one where every ex-president goes to jail. That's a dark path for a republic.

A police car is seen outside former president Donald Trump's residence in Mar-A-Lago, Palm Beach, Fla., on Aug. 8.
A police car is seen outside former president Donald Trump's residence in Mar-A-Lago, Palm Beach, Fla., on Aug. 8.GIORGIO VIERA/AFP / MCT
by Kyle Sammin, For The Inquirer
Published 
Aug 15, 2022

The FBI raid on former president Donald Trump’s Florida home forces into the foreground several norms of American culture that, at times, contradict.

We have the idea that all criminals, no matter their social status, should answer for their crimes in court. But we also have the custom — separating us from many failed republics — that politicians should not use the justice system to punish their political enemies. Both of these norms have frayed in recent years; now, they threaten to fall apart completely.

The offense of which Trump is accused involves the Presidential Records Act, which requires the preservation of presidential documents. Allegedly, 15 boxes of presidential records ended up at Trump’s property in Mar-a-Lago, instead of the National Archives, where they belonged. If he may have broken the law, shouldn’t he be investigated? To say that he should not, simply because he once held high office, suggests a double standard, a separate set of rules for the rich and powerful. That answer cannot be satisfying to the American people.

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But at the same time, when the Department of Justice under Joe Biden takes up the flag of "lock him up” against Biden’s 2020 opponent, it is not conspiratorial to question the motivation. Biden’s press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, says that the DOJ "conducts investigations independently and we leave any law enforcement matters to them.” No one at the White House "was given a heads up” about what happened on August 8 at Mar-a-Lago,” she also said.

But where was the decision made? How high up the chain of command did the discussion reach? If the buck does not stop with Biden, where does it stop? On Thursday, Attorney General Merrick Garland told the press that he personally approved the search warrant. That makes sense. When the FBI wanted to tap Martin Luther King’s phones in 1963, it required the Attorney General — Robert F. Kennedy — to approve the action (which he did). But did Biden know, or just his AG?

The question is important. Transparency is vital. If the people can see that Trump’s actions were so egregious as to require discarding a longstanding norm, then the action becomes more acceptable. And if they know who else knew of and approved the action, they can judge for themselves whether the decision-making was impartial.

As it stands now, even some who are unfriendly to Trump question the raid. Former New York governor Andrew Cuomo tweeted, "DOJ must immediately explain the reason for its raid & it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or it will be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation & legitimacy of January 6 investigations.” Andrew Yang thought the raid would likely backfire on the administration. "It looks increasingly like the FBI raid was to find mishandled classified documents and not some other DOJ investigation which was my first thought,” he wrote on Twitter the following day. "Mishandling documents doesn’t seem like raid material. It does however seem like excellent campaign material for Trump.”

"Even some who are unfriendly to Trump question the raid.”

Kyle Sammin

How it looks politically is less important than what it actually is, but when we talk about trust in our nation’s institutions, we are talking about both perception and reality. For the justice system to be trusted, it must be fair and impartial, and it must be seen to be fair and impartial.

The solution should be one familiar to us for the past 50 years: the appointment of a special counsel. If Trump’s crimes are serious, the implications of that mean that they must be elevated from the ordinary level of bureaucracy and into the hands of someone better equipped to weigh all of the factors. The special counsel is also more isolated from political pressures in the way that Garland and other high-ranking DOJ political appointees are not and can thereby avoid conflicts of interest.

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Is mismanagement of records enough to justify all that? We cannot say for sure without getting more of the facts from DOJ. The warrant is now unsealed — a good first step — but many more questions remain about what led the DOJ to take such drastic action.

The Mar-a-Lago raid raised the temperature in an already boiling political climate. Not everyone reading this will be willing to extend a great deal of sympathy to Donald Trump — fair enough. But if Trump’s toppling of norms bothered you, this raid should, too.

If this becomes the normal course of affairs, do not be surprised when the next Republican Attorney General authorizes a raid on Biden’s house to investigate any number of plausible allegations involving Biden’s son Hunter. The same justifications would apply, and partisans would quickly reverse their previous positions to protect their own side.

A nation can move pretty quickly from one where no ex-president has ever gone to jail to one where every ex-president goes to jail. That’s a dark path for a republic, and one America has managed to avoid until now.

 
 
 
 

Kyle Sammin is editor-at-large at Broad + Liberty.

Published 
Aug. 15, 2022
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Kyle Sammin, For The Inquirer

Wow there's a lot of stupid to unpack there. Googling who Kyle Sammin is, and the ridiculous right wing nonsense he writes, reveals even more. 

tucky seems loonier than usual :lol:  

 

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

 

 

He can't find a new law to break fast enough.

Mr. Philbin has entered the pool

 

lmao

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

hazleton thinks he is the Bruce Lee of CVON

More like

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tHe FBi Is TaRGeTInG reePubLicANs!!!!

lmao

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

tHe FBi Is TaRGeTInG reePubLicANs!!!!

lmao

 

It's almost like they go after people who break the law.

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

It's almost like they go after people who break the law.

Yeah but why do most of those people seem to be Republicans?

16 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Yeah but why do most of those people seem to be Republicans?

Because youre drunk?

I dont know Im just offering a guess

I've heard the show is good but this just might be the clip that pushes me over the edge and gets me to start watching it...

Spoiler

 

 

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It's been a few days since we brought up that time you said Joe Manchin, the senator from WV, was responsible for covid running wild in Florida. Remember that? Remember? 

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Easy mistake to make.  West Virginians secretly rule the planet

Manchin owns the entire Democrat Party, Jerry West is the human representation of sport, Nick Saban is the greatest coaching mastermind to walk the earth, Chuck Yeager basically invented flight and **** on the Wright brothers, Homer Hickam invented outer space, Herschel Williams slaughtered entire armies by himself...should I go on?

 

Punching above our weight since 1863

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Easy mistake to make.  West Virginians secretly rule the planet

Manchin owns the entire Democrat Party, Jerry West is the human representation of sport, Nick Saban is the greatest coaching mastermind to walk the earth, Chuck Yeager basically invented flight and **** on the Wright brothers, Homer Hickam invented outer space, Herschel Williams slaughtered entire armies by himself...should I go on?

 

Punching above our weight since 1863

Ya, you forgot to mention all the periodontitis and incest.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Ya, you forgot to mention all the periodontitis and incest.

West Virginia is the only state to form by seceding from a Confederate state and one of three states to secede from another state.

 

Probably not  a fact he will like, but there you go.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Because youre drunk?

I dont know Im just offering a guess

 

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Easy mistake to make.  West Virginians secretly rule the planet

Manchin owns the entire Democrat Party, Jerry West is the human representation of sport, Nick Saban is the greatest coaching mastermind to walk the earth, Chuck Yeager basically invented flight and **** on the Wright brothers, Homer Hickam invented outer space, Herschel Williams slaughtered entire armies by himself...should I go on?

 

Punching above our weight since 1863

Just a reminder that Mike posted these back to back like a self-fulfilling prophecy :roll:

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