10 minutes ago, John Blutarski said:

Possibly. Either way it's good to see our prospects playing well. Just hope DD doesn't just send him down to rot if he pitches great today. Not sure how the Alvarado situation affects the starters and relievers... Walker could stay in the pen for a bit.

8 minutes ago, devpool said:

We're not really in a position to be trading away good pitching right now

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t think this roster is in a position or sufficiently on the cusp that we should be trading a 23 year old prospect for deadline help. Id trade him for a minor league bat who is a nice prospect, but I wouldn’t trade him for some 30 year old bullpen arm.

I look at it this way, I think even before the Alvarado news came out, they were showcasing him. When you look at the Phillies rotation going forward wheeler is here for at least two more years. Luzardo is here and they’re probably gonna give him a massive extension. You have Christopher Sanchez. Nola is not going anywhere whether we like it or not. And you have painter coming up. There’s really no room for Abel in the rotation.

Then you got a factor in that they purposely put him out there against the Pirates. They know the Pirates are not a very good hitting team. So there’s a chance he was going to look good in the start where he’s already looked good in the minors this year after being off the radar the last couple. Try to trade him at a peak and a showcase game against the pirates. He’d be a main piece in a deadline deal.

Not saying I would do it. I’d keep him cause eventually wheeler is retiring and you could have Luzardo, Sanchez, painter and Abel. Frankly, if I’m the Phillies and he looks good, I can move him into the rotation instead of Walker. And eventually, when you bring up Andrew painter, I can move Ranger Suarez to the bullpen. I think Ranger Suarez would be fine as a left-handed reliever. The problem is, I can’t imagine Ranger Suarez is going to be thrilled to be in the bullpen when he’s a free agent at the end of the year with boras as his agent. He wants to be paid like a starter. It’d be much easier for the Phillies to make that decision if they paid Ranger Suarez and he was already making good money because then he probably wouldn’t care as much as he got his contract and helped the team out for a year. then move him back into the rotation.

What were the odds we lose Alvarado and get no hit in the same day?

Horrible

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What were the odds we lose Alvarado and get no hit in the same day?

I’m surprised they got a run off Skenes now we need to get to their bullpen to score more runs

Mick with a great debut today

8 minutes ago, RoadToHell said:

I’m surprised they got a run off Skenes now we need to get to their bullpen to score more runs

a chance skenes goes 8 innings. He’s at 81 pitches through 6.

And here comes kerkering who can't even find the strike zone

And Kerkering sucks which was a problem before alvarado’s suspension.

Credit to Bohm for catching that horrific throw by Kerkering

Kerkering is an accident waiting to happen

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And Kerkering sucks which was a problem before alvarado’s suspension.

Boom another reverse jinx

Just now, John Blutarski said:

Kerkering is an accident waiting to happen

Got out of that inning but man he’s fortunate the pirates bunted that ball (poorly i may add) and Bohm hung on. With how wild Kerkering was they should’ve tried to make him throw strikes. Normally I’m for bunting to get two runners over and scoring position in a one run game late in the game with no outs. But with how Kerkering was all over the place you’re giving him an out which could settle him down when he couldn’t find the strike zone consistently.

lol 8 pitch inning by skenes against Castellanos, Kepler and Bohm

Abel will come back down to earth with more starts and more visibility. So no one is crowning him anything he isn’t.

But why the hell send him back down after this start?

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Abel will come back down to earth with more starts and more visibility. So no one is crowning him anything he isn’t.

But why the hell send him back down after this start?

Because DD signed Walker to 4 years, $72M

3 more outs to go. Here we go Romano

4 minutes ago, RoadToHell said:

3 more outs to go. Here we go Romano

So 79 games til Alvarado is back…

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I look at it this way, I think even before the Alvarado news came out, they were showcasing him. When you look at the Phillies rotation going forward wheeler is here for at least two more years. Luzardo is here and they’re probably gonna give him a massive extension. You have Christopher Sanchez. Nola is not going anywhere whether we like it or not. And you have painter coming up. There’s really no room for Abel in the rotation.

Then you got a factor in that they purposely put him out there against the Pirates. They know the Pirates are not a very good hitting team. So there’s a chance he was going to look good in the start where he’s already looked good in the minors this year after being off the radar the last couple. Try to trade him at a peak and a showcase game against the pirates. He’d be a main piece in a deadline deal.

Not saying I would do it. I’d keep him cause eventually wheeler is retiring and you could have Luzardo, Sanchez, painter and Abel. Frankly, if I’m the Phillies and he looks good, I can move him into the rotation instead of Walker. And eventually, when you bring up Andrew painter, I can move Ranger Suarez to the bullpen. I think Ranger Suarez would be fine as a left-handed reliever. The problem is, I can’t imagine Ranger Suarez is going to be thrilled to be in the bullpen when he’s a free agent at the end of the year with boras as his agent. He wants to be paid like a starter. It’d be much easier for the Phillies to make that decision if they paid Ranger Suarez and he was already making good money because then he probably wouldn’t care as much as he got his contract and helped the team out for a year. then move him back into the rotation.

I don't trust them to get good value, they'll trade Abel for a 32 year old bat who will come here and do nothing for half a season.

Keep him in the bullpen if you have to until wheeler leaves, he can jump into the rotation as people get hurt (nola) or suck ass (walker). And if he continues to look good they don't have to give Luzardo a huge extension. Idk i don't trust this team to do anything right, moving him is not smart

Can not believe we won today. Abel was outstanding and so was the pen except for Kerk. We will take this win for Abel.

4 minutes ago, devpool said:

I don't trust them to get good value, they'll trade Abel for a 32 year old bat who will come here and do nothing for half a season.

Keep him in the bullpen if you have to until wheeler leaves, he can jump into the rotation as people get hurt (nola) or suck ass (walker). And if he continues to look good they don't have to give Luzardo a huge extension. Idk i don't trust this team to do anything right, moving him is not smart

Hey i didn’t say I’d do it. I frankly wouldn’t. They did get Luzardo for a top 100 prospect. But they also traded O’hoppe for marsh. I much rather keep him as Ranger is likely gone at the end of the year. Painter slots in but nola who knows what he’s going to be going forward and wheeler has 2 years left after this year. I much prefer to keep him.

All this goes back to what I said in the off-season that the bullpen was relying on way too many question marks and a high leverage bullpen arm short to begin the season even if Romano and alavardo panned out. you shouldn’t be relying on the trade deadline to complete your roster with multiple holes on the roster. With the extra wild card team it’s much harder to complete a team at the deadline. The Phillies continue to come into the season with an incomplete roster and knowing they are gonna have to use the deadline to bolster it. It should be go use FA to make your roster as complete as possible so you don’t have to trade away prospects. We don’t have the farm system that continuously churns prospects. Really want to deadline to be a last resort or if you need the deadline to make acquisitions it’s either for a minor pickup.

The real harrowing thing about the future is the lineup. They don’t have any truly big bats in the pipeline. Stott and Bohm are the only established young bats in the lineup…and let’s be honest, they aren’t lineup carriers and they aren’t going to be anything vastly different or better in 2 years.

But 2 years from now…this lineup is going to suck. Unless they buy or trade for 2 huge bats (which is likely logistically impossible).

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So 79 games til Alvarado is back…

I hate the stupid "ineligible to pitch in the post season.” Makes no sense.