EMB Blog: 2023 Offseason - NO POLITICS

[mattwill]

Just now, vikas83 said:

Uh...huh? Is that a new rule?

No.  It has been that way for the past two seasons.

[Alphagrand]

Just now, RLC said:

Boston Scott is our primary kick returner. We don't have anyone else on the roster who is good at it, so he has to dress.

Nonsense.  Scott returned 15 kicks last season.  Covey returned 10 and Watkins returned 5.  Scott isn't some dynamo in the KR game that needs to be activated.  He was objectively the Eagles worst RB in yards per carry, and caught 5 passes for a total of 15 yards last season.  

Whatever value he provides simply isn't worth a roster spot.  

[eagle45]

18 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I honestly don't want to cut him for those 2 games...if we can get him to PS, there are his 2 elevations. 

We're going to have some hard decisions on the 53 this year.

I think the whole Boston Scott vs. Giants thing has become psychological warfare and self-fulfilling at this point.  I don't know the stats, but I'm supremely confident that his goal line opportunities against the Giants are nearly as disproportionate as his TDs.  He had a few hot games against them and then they ran with it.  It's the Eagles telling the giants that they are so much better they can basically pick whatever script they want to walk all over them.

[vikas83]

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

No.  It has been that way for the past two seasons.

Well I'll be damned. OK. That helps

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/5/2/21244278/cba-nuggets-changes-in-the-new-agreement-and-what-they-mean-roster-size

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Beginning with the 2020 regular season, the Active List limit shall be increased from forty-six players per Club to forty-eight players per Club; provided, however, that such a Club’s Active List includes a minimum of eight players whose primary playing position is Center, Guard or Tackle (collectively, "Offensive Lineman”).

 

[mattwill]

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Penny, Swift and Gainwell will all dress. No way in hell Penny is inactive. Scott and Sermon are battling to make the 53. 

Can Covey return kickoffs?

Covey can, but he isn’t going to scare anyone doing it, so opposing teams will kick to inside the 5 yard line and force a return.

[vikas83]

So I guess we could do this:

2 QBs, 4 RBs, 5 WRs, 3 TEs, 8 OL = 22 on offense

10 DL/Rusher, 4 Off-ball LB, 9 DBs = 23 on defense

3 specialists

[Alphagrand]

I wonder if Tyler Steen will be used as a swing OT behind Lane and Mailata, or if he'll fulfill the Dillard role of last season as first off the bench at LT/LG.

I think starting RG for 2023 is the least likely of those scenarios.  

[bpac55]

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think the whole Boston Scott vs. Giants thing has become psychological warfare and self-fulfilling at this point.  I don't know the stats, but I'm supremely confident that his goal line opportunities against the Giants are nearly as disproportionate as his TDs.  He had a few hot games against them and then they ran with it.  It's the Eagles telling the giants that they are so much better they can basically pick whatever script they want to walk all over them.

Thank you for saying this.  Sure, Boston Scott has most of his TDs against the Giants, but he isn't the reason the Eagles beat them.  Superior players given the ball in the same situation should score just as much as he does, if not more.  It's not like he's working some sort of magic against them.

[RLC]

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Covey can, but he isn’t going to scare anyone doing it, so opposing teams will kick to inside the 5 yard line and force a return.

Special teams matter at the back of the roster. This is why we don't want Devonta returning kicks.

[jojodancer]

Boston Scott should be on practice squad this year a la Greg Ward. Can elevate him for Giants games only, if needed. That's it. His kick returning is inconsequential. Sermon has way more upside and will make roster. Held on to him all last year for a reason. And Sirianni was just gushing about him recently. 

[vikas83]

1 minute ago, jojodancer said:

Boston Scott should be on practice squad this year a la Greg Ward. Can elevate him for Giants games only, if needed. That's it. His kick returning is inconsequential. Sermon has way more upside and will make roster. Held on to him all last year for a reason. And Sirianni was just gushing about him recently. 

I'm not sure Scott clears waiver to the PS though.

I mean, the Giants should claim him and just deactivate him.

[eagle45]

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I wonder if Tyler Steen will be used as a swing OT behind Lane and Mailata, or if he'll fulfill the Dillard role of last season as first off the bench at LT/LG.

I think starting RG for 2023 is the least likely of those scenarios.  

I'm not really the expert on this, but every young OL is a bit different.  Everyone has their own struggles and comforts.  Some guys struggle with inside/out switches due to body type, technique, center of gravity, pad level, etc.  Others struggle with flipping their technique and switching sides.  And some just float around without skipping a beat.  

Thanks to google, I can say that Steen started out as the RT at Vanderbilt, upgraded to LT, and then stuck it out there for the duration of his NCAA career.  So in theory, there is some left/right versatility there.  

Its confusing, in his case, because Driscoll was sort of the RG/RT backup with Dillard the LG/LT backup.  Many are projecting Steen as the long term RG, but short term LT/LG backup seems to be the need.

[jojodancer]

Just now, vikas83 said:

I'm not sure Scott clears waiver to the PS though.

I mean, the Giants should claim him and just deactivate him.

Right. That's fine if they wanna  waste a roster spot on Boston Scott. 😁 Eagles will beat the Giants without him and this upgraded stable of RBs.

[Sack that QB]

Dane Brugler had the Eagles with his favorite draft:

[Blazehound]

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'm not sure Scott clears waiver to the PS though.

I mean, the Giants should claim him and just deactivate him.

I’m fairly confident Scott wouldn’t clear waivers. Some team would pick him up. 

[ManuManu]

Trade Boston Scott to Indy for a swap of 7th and 6th round picks. 

[RLC]

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Trade Boston Scott to Indy for a swap of 7th and 6th round picks. 

Oddly enough, if Scott is traded, we take $0 dead money.

(Looks at Colts LB Depth Chart)

[Sack that QB]

I think Scott is more valuable to the Eagles than anyone else. He can run a little, catch a little, return a little. I think he's more valuable to the Eagles than a 6th rounder.

[Sack that QB]

Probably the precursor to a trade. Wonder if this is one Howie gets in on.

[pgcd3]

What happened to Zach Cunningham? He was a good player and seemed to fall off cliff. Still young. Any interest?

[Connecticut Eagle]

I agree with many here.  I'd feel better with a vet OL added to the mix.

Other than that, I'd be comfortable lining to play a game this Sunday.

[FranklinFldEBUpper]

35 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Covey can, but he isn’t going to scare anyone doing it, so opposing teams will kick to inside the 5 yard line and force a return.

He's a lot better at it than Quez Watkins. Not as good as Boston Scott, but as was noted earlier, Scott isn't that awesome at it that it demands he be activated solely for that on game day.

[Alphagrand]

13 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

What happened to Zach Cunningham? He was a good player and seemed to fall off cliff. Still young. Any interest?

I liked Cunningham, but he's just done his second contract and was making $14M+ per season.

I wasn't as big on Patrick Queen as most in his draft year, and I'd still rather get Kenneth Murray than him.  Basically the same stats per game, and Murray would be cheaper.

[McMVP]

44 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think the whole Boston Scott vs. Giants thing has become psychological warfare and self-fulfilling at this point.  I don't know the stats, but I'm supremely confident that his goal line opportunities against the Giants are nearly as disproportionate as his TDs.  He had a few hot games against them and then they ran with it.  It's the Eagles telling the giants that they are so much better they can basically pick whatever script they want to walk all over them.

Agree - Eagles are basically just trolling the Giants

[Alphagrand]

Listening to Rich Gannon on NFL Radio; he says Kirk Cousins is the best QB in the NFC North.  I think I'd probably take Goff over him:

 

34

MIN

QB

8

17

17

13-4-0

424

643

65.9

4547

29

4.5

14

2.2

 

28

DET

QB

16

17

17

9-8-0

382

587

65.1

4438

29

4.9

7

1.2