15 minutes ago, TEW said:

It would be fully in line with his first term. Lots of queefing from the left, lots of manufactured drama, but fundamentally a good but boring term in reality.

It was none of things, howeverl

and you contradict your "chaos” comments

6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I remember how you felt too.  You guys attacked the Capitol.

I didn't say much after election night.

41 minutes ago, Captain F said:

 

Ignored.  Bye.

13 minutes ago, DiPros said:

No, I do not believe it will.  He was a deer in the headlights and had a revolving door of an administration.  This time, they've already vetted people who will by loyal to him like he's somekind of God.  He may be President, but to me he's still a POS.

Yup

bc a moron like trump needs to Be smartest/most powerful in the room. Which is tough given how stupid and crooked trump is

3 minutes ago, paco said:

So.... unfollow the account she is going to delete anyway?   Did I read that right?

You should see my FB feed.  Friends demanding they get unfriended if you voted for Trump.  
 

The amount of people completely triggered seems even worse than 2016.  
 

Meh - Bless their hearts 

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Totally anecdotal but my concern grew the last three days in Chester/Bucks county. Save for one guy, every one I spent time with are strong Harris supporters and they all talked about how much Trump support there was in their neighborhoods and friends’ networks. It always came down to fear of taxes and the overall economy for the reasons people were supporting Trump. They said everyone hated Trump but were voting against the leftist economic agenda. Throw in the stupid woke sheet at the margins and, voila, here we are again with Orange Man. 

Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won.   Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against.

9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

For three years he had excellent fortune. There were no major crises to handle. 

Trump is awful in a crisis. All he knows how to do is point fingers.

Let's hope nothing major tests him. 

Ukraine and Isreal are already going to test him

2 minutes ago, paco said:

Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won.   Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against.

Yep.  It’s their own "elitism” that they can’t seem to admit or care to understand.  Let them keep thinking they’re right - to their own demise. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You should see my FB feed.  Friends demanding they get unfriended if you voted for Trump.  
 

The amount of people completely triggered seems even worse than 2016.  
 

Meh - Bless their hearts 

I'll never get all of that honestly.  Move on people.  The sun will rise again tomorrow.

7 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

We're all here taking our licks so F off with that "own up to your shortcomings" nonsense. Not a single person in here actually believes that what what McConnell did in 2016 wasn't completely out of political bounds. And I'd argue that one singular act, along with Obama's tan suit, radically reshaped American politics. From that point on good faith political discourse was out the window.

If anybody was going to give you crap it would have been me. You don't need to take any licks. We trolled the crap out of each other and fought for what we believed was best for the country we love and we move on.

Just now, paco said:

Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won.   Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against.

"Another 4 years of calling half the country NSDAPs and racists will surely get them to vote for us next election!"

- Dems probably

🤣

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won.   Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against.

And think the GOP self reflected after trump??  They already doubled down on the stupid

So is it

president convict trump

convict president trump

dictator trump

overlord trump

Trying to get the naming right

Just now, Kz! said:

Right, and I'm saying it's their only option because their policies are horrible for white people and christians.

Did you ever think it was weird that Kamala couldn't articulate any coherent plan to improve people's lives? How she couldn't answer simple softball questions about what she'd do different from Biden? Did you think it was weird that they were dressing Walz up in hunting gear and parading him out there to make a fool of himself on a weird hunting trip? Did you think it was weird that they were campaigning on the idea that Harris and Walz were huge supporters of the 2nd amendment?  

They had nothing to focus on besides abortion and orange man bad because their policies are awful for normal, white Americans. So no, they can't transition away from identity politics to focus on their "good policies" because their policies promote inflation, out of control government spending, high crime, illegal immigration etc. They have to lean into racial grievances because minorities and brainwashed whites are the only people who vote for them.

You're describing what the party is now. I'm saying the whole minority equality platform (which requires white dudes like me to care enough to carry the water for someone else's benefit) needs to die in a fire and DNC leadership needs to give way to people who will create a platform on the issues that a plurality of Americans actually care about. 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Ukraine and Isreal are already going to test him

These are the two things I am most anxious about.  Well this and what he does surrounding renewables.  For renewables I think offshore wind takes a beating, but the rest (onshore wind and solar) will continue to see incentives.  A good bit of that funding goes to red states.  Still, glad I got my home solar system already in place.

57 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

If there’s anything to look forward to, it’s HE’s student loans being reinstated. 

With interest, hopefully.

I just liked three @ToastJenkins posts

da F???

51 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

We all need to take a moment to enjoy this. This forum will never be this good again. Savor these remaining years.

Something tells me CVON is just getting warmed up.

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Ukraine and Isreal are already going to test him

I can't decide which butthurt I like better. The predictable butthurt from libtards or the butthurt from the Never Trumper/Nimrata Haley faction of the GOP who are so stupid they'd prefer 4 more years of the democratic party importing and amnestying illegals into swing states to permanently change the electorate because they hate orange man so much.

This dude hates Trump so much he actually convinced himself Harris was a good candidate.   

6 minutes ago, paco said:

Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won.   Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against.

MAGA is a cult and the Democrat party imploding doesn't change that. The 10M that stayed home and didn't vote or went 3rd party aren't cult members and they're the ones that decided this election.

3 hours ago, The_Omega said:

 

 

6 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

You're describing what the party is now. I'm saying the whole minority equality platform (which requires white dudes like me to care enough to carry the water for someone else's benefit) needs to die in a fire and DNC leadership needs to give way to people who will create a platform on the issues that a plurality of Americans actually care about. 

Oh, if you're saying you want the dems to abandon their current disastrous policies and come up with things that might actually benefit white americans, I'm fine that. Or you could just drop the tribal affinity and start voting for a party whose policies already do that and vote republican.

16 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

For three years he had excellent fortune. There were no major crises to handle. 

Trump is awful in a crisis. All he knows how to do is point fingers.

Let's hope nothing major tests him. 

Disagree.

The world was stable because the world was scared shitless of Trump. There’s an anecdote where he was negotiating with (I think — going off memory) the Taliban and he straight up pulled the GPS coordinates of the leaders families and told them he’d kill everyone they’d ever known if they didn’t get in line. No one wanted to F with him because they knew he’d F them up 10 times worse. That’s why Putin waited for him to leave office.

But you can look at COVID and his response and it was a resounding success. Operation warp speed was a miracle. The economy did relatively well under arguably the most trying time in history.

I wish he were in office instead of Biden — Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded. That’s for damn sure.

10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I just liked three @ToastJenkins posts

da F???

Same, especially that last one on self-reflection. I was like, "this MF'er spittin".