10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That really depends on when you conducted your eye test.  If you conducted it during the first 10 games of the season his average return was 6.50 yards on 18 returns.  If you conducted it during games 11 through 21 his average return was over twice as productive at 13.29 yards on 17 returns.  
 

What you appear to disdain is Covey’s willingness/ability to take the immediately available yards that are right in front of him.  That means he had zero returns out of 35 that went for negative yards.

Further, your "field to work with” logic is illogical when @FranklinFldEBUpper’s well documented hang time statistics for the 2022 season are considered.  Field to work with has next to nothing to do with field position, and everything to do with punt hang time.  The higher the hang time the further down the field the opposing gunners can get, which reduces the amount of field the returner has to work with.

But all things being equal, if the hang time faced by other returners is tenth of a second shorter but the punter is punting from an average 10 yards further upfield. the coverage unit has less ground to make up to get to the returner, no?

12 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Probably the same stall @hputenis and @Godfather have glory hole wars in 

Funny bathroom stall story (How's that for the beginning of a story?) - I think I was at a concert taking a whizz in a disgusting bathroom stall where there was graffiti everywhere, phenus drawings, and of course @mikemack8's phone number plastered everywhere for anyone that likes butt stuff.  But when I looked to my left, there were the words "Look right," so I looked to my right.  Then there were the words "Look down," so I looked down.  Then the words "Look back left."  Then the words "Look up and to the right," then "look left again," and that led me to the words, "Congratulations.  You've just played toilet tennis."  

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

Carrying a player for a niche role, is only something a team with a deep roster can do.  I would love the Birds to finally take the RS seriously and not make it a make do position. Having someone who can contribute in the O or D; but clearly with the players they sign and retain on the PS, it's not something the FO value enough to do anything about it.

So unless something out the norm happens, Covey will be the RS this season and the roster will be compromised elsewhere to do it

I'd argue that WR is one of the least deep positions on the team though.  Yes, they have absolute studs with Brown and Smith but behind them....YIKES.  Having a guy like Covey kills their WR depth.

2 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think the whole number thing is unnecessary hubris, but in Suggs’ defense, his legacy isn’t nearly that of Namath. Keeping the number retired would impact his relevance more than Joe

Namath’s legacy was predicting winning a championship, a fur coat and pantyhose coupled with such bad knees he became a liability.  Oh and alcohol and old age commercials.  Suggs was really a force for much longer than Namath.

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

Carrying a player for a niche role, is only something a team with a deep roster can do.  I would love the Birds to finally take the RS seriously and not make it a make do position. Having someone who can contribute in the O or D; but clearly with the players they sign and retain on the PS, it's not something the FO value enough to do anything about it.

So unless something out the norm happens, Covey will be the RS this season and the roster will be compromised elsewhere to do it

I disagree with your first sentence. It's only something a team with a shallow roster can do because the team mostly stinks so who cares if you have to cut someone bad to keep the PR only guy. A team with a deep roster should be looking to kill two birds with one stone any chance they can get, because otherwise you have to cut someone that has potential like an Ojomo to keep the PR only guy. 

What's taking the Eagles so long?  Nike can't find Kelly Green again?

Also, another team whose older uniform is better than current.  NYG back in these full time would be the right move. 

 

18 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Send Jalen Carter on go routes

13 personnel with Jalen and Jordan. 

16 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I really like Gainwell but he really hasn’t been:

Gainwell:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GainKe00.htm
 

Scott:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/ScotBo02.htm

Doesn't it strike you as significant that in the two years Gainwell has been here he has clearly taken away targets and receptions from Scott? 

79 targets vs. 22. 56 receptions vs.18. 422 yards in receptions vs. 98.

In the playoffs it's the same story: 14 targets vs. 2. 12 receptions vs. 2. 104 yards in receptions vs. 10.

 

14 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

What's taking the Eagles so long?  Nike can't find Kelly Green again?

Also, another team whose older uniform is better than current.  NYG back in these full time would be the right move. 

 

I don’t understand it. I’ve recently bought a Nike Eagles T-shirt that is Kelly green and it looks really good. 
 

And someone else even said, the Oakland A’s green is almost a dead on match, just use that. 

35 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Namath’s legacy was predicting winning a championship, a fur coat and pantyhose coupled with such bad knees he became a liability.  Oh and alcohol and old age commercials.  Suggs was really a force for much longer than Namath.

Everything you say here is true but Namath's impact on the game was much greater than Suggs'. Joe was a huge star.

Just got my Jalen Carter auto rookie card come in, it’s sickkkkkk

 

Most punt returners are specialized players who don't take starting reps on offense or defense:

 

Marcus Jones (Patriots DB) -- 37% of defensive snaps

Ray-Ray McCloud (Niners WR) -- 26% of offensive snaps

Jaelon Darden (Bucs WR) -- 7% of offensive snaps

Trent Taylor (Bengals WR) -- 13% of offensive snaps

DeAndre Carter (Chargers WR) -- 59% of offensive snaps

Dax Milne (Commanders WR) -- 8% of offensive snaps

Desmond King (Texans DB) -- 78% of defensive snaps

Britain Covey (Eagles WR) -- 2% of offensive snaps

 

 

Other than Carter and King, the rough average for the rest of the leading PR is about 15-20% of snap counts on offense or defense.  Boston Scott had 14.42% of offensive snap counts and, other than Calcaterra, is the only player in that range of snaps on offense.  On defense that would fit K'Von Wallace at 14.83%

The role is ideally suited for a depth WR, RB, or DB.

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Just got my Jalen Carter auto rookie card come in, it’s sickkkkkk

 

I haven't bought cards in decades.  What are the good brands now?  

I'm trying to think back to the 90s and what I used to get.  Topps, Fleer, Score, NFL Pro Set, Upper Deck, Action Packed are among the few I remember. 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I haven't bought cards in decades.  What are the good brands now?  

I'm trying to think back to the 90s and what I used to get.  Topps, Fleer, Score, NFL Pro Set, Upper Deck, Action Packed are among the few I remember. 

I don't really pay much attention to brands. I just collected autographed rookie cards of the Eagles draft classes. Also if there's UDFA's that make the team I'll then pick them up. But most common are Bowman, Panini, Leaf that I purchase.

From 2020, I'm still missing Jack Driscoll and Casey Toohill

From 2021, I have everyone but Jack Stoll

From 2022, I need Cam Jurgens and Kyron Johnson

From 2023, I need Sydney Brown, Tyler Steen, and Moro Ojomo and any UDFA's that make the roster

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Most punt returners are specialized players who don't take starting reps on offense or defense:

 

Marcus Jones (Patriots DB) -- 37% of defensive snaps

Ray-Ray McCloud (Niners WR) -- 26% of offensive snaps

Jaelon Darden (Bucs WR) -- 7% of offensive snaps

Trent Taylor (Bengals WR) -- 13% of offensive snaps

DeAndre Carter (Chargers WR) -- 59% of offensive snaps

Dax Milne (Commanders WR) -- 8% of offensive snaps

Desmond King (Texans DB) -- 78% of defensive snaps

Britain Covey (Eagles WR) -- 2% of offensive snaps

 

 

Other than Carter and King, the rough average for the rest of the leading PR is about 15-20% of snap counts on offense or defense.  Boston Scott had 14.42% of offensive snap counts and, other than Calcaterra, is the only player in that range of snaps on offense.  On defense that would fit K'Von Wallace at 14.83%

The role is ideally suited for a depth WR, RB, or DB.

The average of 15-20% is still WAY better than 2%..and even that 2% is skewed because his snaps on offense were in mop up time.  If a player is playing 15-20% of the snaps, they at least have a role on offense or defense.  Covey gives this team nothing in terms of offensive production or snaps. This is why if a guy like Boston Scott could be the KR and PR, it would give the Eagles an extra roster spot.  

There's a chance a guy like Charleston Rambo out performs Covey in every way at WR but because Covey is the PR, Rambo is out of a job.

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The average of 15-20% is still WAY better than 2%..and even that 2% is skewed because his snaps on offense were in mop up time.  If a player is playing 15-20% of the snaps, they at least have a role on offense or defense.  Covey gives this team nothing in terms of offensive production or snaps. This is why if a guy like Boston Scott could be the KR and PR, it would give the Eagles an extra roster spot.  

There's a chance a guy like Charleston Rambo out performs Covey in every way at WR but because Covey is the PR, Rambo is out of a job.

Rambo would be a bottom of the roster guy at best at this point.  He returned one PR in college and a few KR, but he's likely not going to contribute much in that role.  The role as you see it should be filled between Quez Watkins and Olamide Zaccheus.  Both have more experience than Rambo as a returner and could be trusted more.  Watkins just needs to be better at it, but he returned 19 punts and 18 kickoffs in college.  Zaccheus had 35 KR and 5 PR in college, and did a tiny bit of both with the Falcons in 2021.

If the idea is to get rid of Covey because he offers nothing of value to the offense, then Watkins/Zaccheus should be in that role and split reps at WR.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Rambo would be a bottom of the roster guy at best at this point.  He returned one PR in college and a few KR, but he's likely not going to contribute much in that role.  The role as you see it should be filled between Quez Watkins and Olamide Zaccheus.  Both have more experience than Rambo as a returner and could be trusted more.  Watkins just needs to be better at it, but he returned 19 punts and 18 kickoffs in college.  Zaccheus had 35 KR and 5 PR in college, and did a tony bit of both with the Falcons in 2021.

If the idea is to get rid of Covey because he offers nothing of value to the offense, then Watkins/Zaccheus should be in that role and split reps at WR.

I was just using his name as an example.  Like you said, WR4/5 should be Watkins or Zaccheus.  If they didn't have Covey taking up WR5 because he returns punts, they could push those 2 guys down and bring in a guy like Julio Jones or Jarvis Landry to play WR3.  Someone who if heaven for bid there's an injury could step in to a starting role.

Instead, we have Covey at WR5, which pushes both Watkins and Zaccheus in to bigger roles they aren't suited for.

57 minutes ago, just relax said:

Everything you say here is true but Namath's impact on the game was much greater than Suggs'. Joe was a huge star.

He was on the Brady Bunch. 

43 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The average of 15-20% is still WAY better than 2%..and even that 2% is skewed because his snaps on offense were in mop up time.  If a player is playing 15-20% of the snaps, they at least have a role on offense or defense.  Covey gives this team nothing in terms of offensive production or snaps. This is why if a guy like Boston Scott could be the KR and PR, it would give the Eagles an extra roster spot.  

There's a chance a guy like Charleston Rambo out performs Covey in every way at WR but because Covey is the PR, Rambo is out of a job.

I mean what are we talking about here? Rambo isn't some all-time prospect.  He was a UDFA college prospect who was mildly successful in the XFL.  He's not a player that has a whole lot of upside at 23.  

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean what are we talking about here? Rambo isn't some all-time prospect.  He was a UDFA college prospect who was mildly successful in the XFL.  He's not a player that has a whole lot of upside at 23.  

Rambo is a tougher name than Britain and Covey though.  So is Charleston... Ever try a Chaleston Chew?  Those things will rip your teeth out

 

15 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Marcus Hayes said that the Eagles did not have a QB. He said this in summer 2022.

He is not a journalist. He is a 5th rate circus clown.

Lots of people had that opinion before the 2022 regular season. I'd question his judgement him if he had that opinion still

5 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Rambo is a tougher name than Britain and Covey though.  So is Charleston... Ever try a Chaleston Chew?  Those things will rip your teeth out

 

 

45 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean what are we talking about here? Rambo isn't some all-time prospect.  He was a UDFA college prospect who was mildly successful in the XFL.  He's not a player that has a whole lot of upside at 23.  

I was just throwing a name out there.  See my above post about WR and the ripple effect having Covey at WR5 has.  It pushes players built for WR4/5 in to more important depth roles rather than having a vet at WR3.  Now you could argue that Zaccheaus or Watkins shouldn't be the determining factor when it comes to the Eagles bringing in an established vet for WR3 but I think it's all intertwined.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

He was on the Brady Bunch. 

And "starred" in CC and Company, for the sole purpose of having a sex scene with Ann Margaret.