3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t expect him to still be available at 22…this is correct

So Howe never makes a move up for the guy he wants???? Depends on how the draft falls and how much Howie wants to move up. It would presumably(with Bowers and Goedert and the WR's we have plus Bark) make this offense indefensible. IDK how you can afford NOT to make this move if you can put an indefensible offense on the field. Teams would have to have the top 2 CB's,the top S,and 2 top LB's to even cope with this

3 hours ago, VeeMak said:

The safe bet is offensive or defensive line at 22.  Given the draft history with Howie, it’s unlikely that we would draft a DB at 22.  At this point, I would put money on Mims or Chop at 22.  I would also not be surprised for a trade down.  

If we stay there yes,but I don't suspect we will. The extra round 2 is basically a free pick or a bargaining chip to move up if we want Bowers. I would look at Latu at 22 if we don't make the move and if we moved back I suspect that would be one of the 2's we have. Still stud players around at 22 and no reason to give that up IMO

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024  So there is a possibility, seeing this list, that Bowers could fall to maybe 17-18 which is totally doable if we want to make that jump. I doubt he goes at 10 to the Jets they need other major pieces before a TE. Depends how badly other teams need linemen and DB's. If they go there yeah 17-18 is doable,so I can't just rule him out. We'll know soon

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Howe never makes a move up for the guy he wants???? Depends on how the draft falls and how much Howie wants to move up. It would presumably(with Bowers and Goedert and the WR's we have plus Bark) make this offense indefensible. IDK how you can afford NOT to make this move if you can put an indefensible offense on the field. Teams would have to have the top 2 CB's,the top S,and 2 top LB's to even cope with this

That's if the QB can read the defense and make the throws

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

That's if the QB can read the defense and make the throws

Well there would be no more excuses,you or I would do well with these weapons

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-michael-penix-jr-taken-inside-top-15-afcs-top-qbs-gain-dynamic-pass-catchers/ Here's a new mock where he falls to 18

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well there would be no more excuses,you or I would do well with these weapons

Glad to see you coming around to the idea of getting that elite 5th weapon and not just the rotation projects.  

But idk about moving up to get him. Especially giving up a second round asset.

They’ve admitted to preferring a three WR look…than two TEs

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They’ve admitted to preferring a three WR look…than two TEs

I think most teams should ...because you need 2 TEs that can be multifaceted in order for it to cause matchup problems. 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-michael-penix-jr-taken-inside-top-15-afcs-top-qbs-gain-dynamic-pass-catchers/ Here's a new mock where he falls to 18

In that mock I’d take the LSU WR Brian Thomas. 6’4” 205 that would be a fantastic scenario for us to come upon. He’s goes at pick 23 in that mock.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In that mock I’d take the LSU WR Brian Thomas. 6’4” 205 that would be a fantastic scenario for us to come upon. He’s goes at pick 23 in that mock.

But I’m thinking Thomas goes much higher.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

CJG is not soft. Blank re-signed,he should get better too. We got Huff in here and it's time for last years draftees to step up. Brock Bowers is a generational TE. Don't be shocked if we take him(although we never had a visit with him). Yes this draft will be really interesting with all the deep talent. I expect Howie to do alot of finagling

CJG is a safety.

Bowers won’t be there at pick 22.

21 hours ago, joemas6 said:

White is " non existent"?

White has been a disappointment from his draft expectations. Out of fairness to you, I forgot the Eagles signed him.
 

Dean is not good; the kid from Michigan needs a LOT of work; the starters from last year are gone.

This time of year is rough for sports….I don’t care about basketball, baseball, or hockey. Love to play golf, but I can’t stand to watch it. XFL is unwatchable. Sigh. Summer fun outside saves me. Need summer to get here soon!

Wentz a Chief. The irony if Mahomes got hurt for a few weeks and Wentz plays well. I wonder why the Rams didn’t push harder to re-sign him. Maybe they did. 
What do the cowpies have at RB that no-one but them knows about?

1 hour ago, Senhorcook said:

This time of year is rough for sports….I don’t care about basketball, baseball, or hockey. Love to play golf, but I can’t stand to watch it. XFL is unwatchable. Sigh. Summer fun outside saves me. Need summer to get here soon!

Yeah this is a rough time of year! Soccer is OK but even that at a top level is kind of dull and not very entertaining. I’m glad I’m a Southampton fan because actually the Championship is a lot of fun and far more competitive. 

Not a fan of golf either but I do love a bit of the masters.

3 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

White has been a disappointment from his draft expectations. Out of fairness to you, I forgot the Eagles signed him.
 

Dean is not good; the kid from Michigan needs a LOT of work; the starters from last year are gone.

White is better than anything we had here at LB in a while.  However disappointing he is due to his expectations of being elite.   He is at worst above average.  Far from non existent. 

3 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

This time of year is rough for sports….I don’t care about basketball, baseball, or hockey. Love to play golf, but I can’t stand to watch it. XFL is unwatchable. Sigh. Summer fun outside saves me. Need summer to get here soon!

Wentz a Chief. The irony if Mahomes got hurt for a few weeks and Wentz plays well. I wonder why the Rams didn’t push harder to re-sign him. Maybe they did. 
What do the cowpies have at RB that no-one but them knows about?

It's  great time of the year for the local Philadelphia fans.  

11 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Glad to see you coming around to the idea of getting that elite 5th weapon and not just the rotation projects.  

But idk about moving up to get him. Especially giving up a second round asset.

If he falls to 18 as some mocks show that is within striking distance and possibly giving up another 2025 pick. I think he's worth getting,he would be here 4 years or 5. He's supposedly another Gronk/ Pitts,generational TE. I hope he falls to within something we can do 

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They’ve admitted to preferring a three WR look…than two TEs

We already got Parker and Paris and I'd like to draft Ainias Smith as well. Why can we have 2 TE's and 3 WR's? it's all there for the taking

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I think most teams should ...because you need 2 TEs that can be multifaceted in order for it to cause matchup problems. 

Bowers is FAST for a TE and he runs WR routes

5 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

CJG is a safety.

Bowers won’t be there at pick 22.

Yes but you said the secondary was soft and aren't safeties part of the secondary? Slay could come back. He was part of the collapse when everyone quit trying. We should at least be mediocre lol

5 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

This time of year is rough for sports….I don’t care about basketball, baseball, or hockey. Love to play golf, but I can’t stand to watch it. XFL is unwatchable. Sigh. Summer fun outside saves me. Need summer to get here soon!

Wentz a Chief. The irony if Mahomes got hurt for a few weeks and Wentz plays well. I wonder why the Rams didn’t push harder to re-sign him. Maybe they did. 
What do the cowpies have at RB that no-one but them knows about?

Dem boyz in trouble in the RB dept. Hellaire is still out there,maybe zeke comes back

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah this is a rough time of year! Soccer is OK but even that at a top level is kind of dull and not very entertaining. I’m glad I’m a Southampton fan because actually the Championship is a lot of fun and far more competitive. 

Not a fan of golf either but I do love a bit of the masters.

Soccer needs to count DOWN not UP. That is really moronic. When 90 minutes is up,then say OK we have 4:44 seconds of penalties to play so reset the clock for that. It;s stupid not to know when the game ends just "whenever the ref decides it is".

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Soccer needs to count DOWN not UP. That is really moronic. When 90 minutes is up,then say OK we have 4:44 seconds of penalties to play so reset the clock for that. It;s stupid not to know when the game ends just "whenever the ref decides it is".

I like that idea! I really like that idea. Would definitely change things as a fan.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bowers is FAST for a TE and he runs WR routes

Can he block?  The advantage you want to take in the matchups is that they need to go big vs the 2 TEs...because it's better run blocking.   Then you take advantage of the bigger players in coverage.    You need 3 TEs that can block.   Otherwise they can just use the Nickel and treat it like it's 3 WRs