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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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This is great for us. HC is more mature, experienced and possesses a much improved scheme and playbook. You have to acknowledge where he began to appreciate all this though.

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He’s earning more credit for our success each day is how I’m seeing it. We didn’t make the playoffs his first season because of his great playcalling scheme experience or maturity. We overcame all that. Started 2-5…then dug out of those holdups to get there. Not because he had more experience each game. Not because his O genius gifted our players the plays being made. Not because he ran the best TC to have our guys so ready. Behind in TC, with a weak scheme getting bad gameplan and playcalling. Borderline blind to credit Siri for our run of wins and making the playoffs because of him in 2021. 

What first time HC ever has all these things ironed out and perfected to start? Just obvious. But I actually am saying it was worse than average even. It was bad. Sorry. But totally full of crap to credit Siri for what happened after our 2-5 start.

2024 season is where he actually deserves and earned credit by far. Team galvanized to fight for him and accepted to check egos going along for the team success hindering some personal fame and glory stat. QBs and WRs actually famously the players that are exactly opposite of guys to do this even. Diva positions of fame seekers. Quality of those players made it happen. But Siri got them to do it. Tons of credit…that not sure many other coaches could have done.

Imagine TO, Antonio Brown, Cheetah…any big WRs not being a total nightmare if you were going to limit passing to those levels? Those guys were destructive for the team even without that. Imagine Manning or Josh Allen being forced to do what we did. They’d have the coach fired. Never happen. Not until Manning had no arm and was old did he pull back from his own ego fame glory. He was going to put up big stats and be in every commercial…win or lose. Colts were arguably the best team so much of the time…at least one of the best. But how many SB did they win with him? How hard did he choke in the biggest games? He kind of sucked when they actually did win the SB. Their RB and D came on blockbuster at the end of that season. Look at his interceptions and TDs in those playoffs they won the SB. Terrible actually. He wasn’t good. That’s when they actually won it all.

Is Josh Allen ever going to not throw endlessly to win? He isn’t as good as what we have. Our guy is redefining what greatness is and how to do it. 

Burrow it’s tough to argue Hurts is superior to. He’s the one guy. 

Taller with a stronger arm? Is that greatness? Those give natural gifted advantages. Mike Vick was faster than Hurts. He could flick his wrist off balance and throw it 50 yards. Was he a better QB leader? Everything about Hurts he’s elite at where Vick failed. Dedicated, workout warrior, connecting with each teammate welcoming to the team, coachable…our guy is super gifted…but really he sticks out from how he’s earned everything. Not the tallest, smartest or  biggest arm ever. He’s flat made everything happen by pure drive to succeed. 

What’s been given to Hurts? Benched at Bama for Tua. Denied the Heisman because he was in the same season against all time greatest season by Burrow. Had different O every year of college and pros. First year starting with a weak supporting cast. Denied MVP to Mahomes because he suffered that injury at the end. Frankly he wasn’t going to beat Mahomes anyway because of the fame of Mahomes. 
  The guy has earned every inch…through every obstacle. 

Drew Brees and Kurt Warner…those guys made it happen and earned it. Best examples I can give. Joe Montana I see as how he got it done. 

Brady as competitive and driven focused on winning it all and leading as anybody. But I feel he learned and got there by very extreme levels of espionage and cheating. He was given the answers to read the D…not by doing it…but hearing it through his headset. Totally believed he studied and worked hard at cheating…but isn’t fair to compare him learning and getting his knowledge that way. He lead. He made everybody better. He played every game for a hundred years. But he beat us by a field goal with Jim Johnson having no choice but to conclude they knew his playcalling. His LB coach Spags took the knowledge of Brady cheating and beat him both times…with inferior teams. We came back and beat him also after we understood he cheats…massively. 
  So three SBs after Jim Johnson realized Brady cheats getting the playcall Eagles and his coach Spags beat him all three times. Nothing more clear to prove how much of Brady’s success was gained by cheating. 

Pete Rose deserves to be in the HOF way before Brady

Brady is retired. Bellicheck out of the NFL. It’s time to investigate and find out some truths. Heck just start with Goodell releasing what he already has found. I believe the Pats were so next level elaborate cheating. More than just trying to figure out stealing playcalls. Or getting copies of playbooks. Their biggest organization department was around that football brain in the basement. Guy remembered every play ever happened. I think if we really find out what levels the Pats  were up to Kraft will have to sell his team. Brady will be blocked from enshrinement as well as Bellicheat. It wasn’t easy…I think they worked extremely hard at it. Steal playbooks…filming the sidelines every game…studying coaches tendencies…we know they did all that. I’m talking about much more. Corporate espionage levels those guys would even envy. Tapping into headsets…totally believe it. Bugging the other franchises and planting spies? No proof …but I find it hard to even consider they weren’t. I’m not saying blackmailing players…to those levels. But Kraft/Brady/Bellicheck I don’t put a limit on how far they would and did go. To me…that was their brilliance. That’s what made them elite. Goodell actually covered things up even. Destroyed the evidence. How bad is that? It was so bad…the commish had to destroy evidence for them because of how damaging it would be to the NFL? No way that was just some tapes of a coach in the stands filming the sidelines. That wouldn’t destroy the brand. Wasn’t Bellicheck burning evidence so it couldn’t be found…the commish had to do it…that extremely bad levels of pure cheating. I don’t think hardly anybody has even thought hard enough about this fact. That’s with most everybody understanding they were big time cheating. NFL commish covered up and burned what he found to never be known. 
 What was so far worse than everybody thinking they were big time cheaters? 

It’s the biggest scandal in the history of sports I’m actually believing. If ever uncovered. 

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2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Same O who was his WRs they were the same? How about the OL they have changed a ton? RBs were the same? He lost Pacheco got hunt back went back to the other guy and they weren’t even the same RBs from his first SB…

Saying he had the same O is false he had the same Scheme but the player vastly changed…. Hurts had far more of the same players v Mahomes. 
 

So again it isn’t apples to apples… supporting cast goes to Hurts, years with the same players goes to Hurts… Mahomes does get the edge in coaching but that’s about it. 
 

Again to me Hurts played great but again if you replaced Hurts with Mahomes nothing changes Philly still dominates… we were the far superior team 

Our D was 75% better with Q and DeJean. Our O was 75% better due to Bark and the KISS offense. The Wuss stand in our way this year, so lets take care of them then go for a repeat. I'm still ging 1 game at a time while Ham plans for week 15 🤣:Eagle_smiley: Fly high my birds

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20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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Wow!

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OT- Tearing down my 30 gallon aquarium today. It's not fun alone-UGH

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FWIW they are doing a love mock draft on TV right now,they are at pick 16

21 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why would Seattle give all that up when they need so much? Makes no sense

It was a trade in an article I read they come up for Dart using Darnold to learn behind for a few years knowing that they are more than a few years away and build the oline and offense around him first.

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2 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

They used pff rankings to make this mock i bet

IDK inside the Iggles, I think they do their own. I fell asleep and didn't the the GMF mock. I will have o check it out on site. They put all the hosts "on the clock" LOL

He joined Kay Adams on "Up & Adams" on Tuesday and made his pitch to join the team and how he would fit into the system.

"Going to Philly with (Vic Fangio), you would know exactly what you're getting out of me and I would know exactly what I'm getting out of them because I've been in the system," Simmons said. "I still have a ways to go in mastering it, but there are some things and nuances I know that Vic likes, that I know that Christian Parker likes.

Feels like this has been the plan all along for Fangio. Ditch Ceedy Duce for Justin Simmons. The key being to pull it off….really be extra nice for us if he could wait until after the draft to be signed. Then we don’t lose our comp pick gained.

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