They can’t guard our O with Smitty, AJ and Saquan….already having nightmares when our team comes up that week on their schedule. Weapons killing them DEEP and in the BACKFIELD. Just so obvious to me how open and ripe their D is for any YAC Creator. Couldn’t be any more ideal.

(Lord help any D that actually starts considering a single step towards defending a potential YAC Creation play)

On 5/3/2025 at 1:14 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

He isn't understanding that "backloading" only hurts if the contract plays itself out, which Howie never lets happen. Howie rolls contracts over for guys he wants to keep

Not true. So many times what happens is we are forced into either getting rid of a guy or extending him in unfavorable terms. We always are facing this backloaded cap money. It is a large factor in our decision making.

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly not this thought. Not an advantage overpowering Lane. Please try again. We do have some nice parting gifts for you.

Then explain why all the panic about him. Thanks for the parting gifts but I ain't goin ANYWHERE. So rude and childish,to be expected from you

46 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This guy was universally considered the best player on this draft class. Elite pass rusher. Went to our division rival. You guys aren’t considering this near enough. It’s a big problem!

LMAO,you gave me parting gifts,then say this BS. Dude has you on the run before 1 snap has been taken. Lane has already dealt with guys for YEARS,but this guy puts itching powder in your jock LMAO HAHAHAHA i'm keeping my parting gifts while you hit the bricks

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Where does Hurts go indeed….my worry would be the trainers table.

If he's stupid enough to stand there and get bashed,then that's the best place for him

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok I get you….my thoughts seem to always be larger

You can't follow subject matter or stay within the lines, always deflection. I got you a 2 page coloring book,like they give 3 year olds to see if you can stay within the lines

On 5/3/2025 at 1:49 PM, joemas6 said:

Ok Chip... I'll go with what has worked best the last 5 years as proof...compared to your theory. It's not college ball and spread to get stats....NFL ball is a little different. We are a run based offense. The TE that can block is a strong asset... also one that can run after the catch.

Maybe it's why you were so angry last year during the most fun season ...because you don't care about team success, you just want stats for Hurts. The offense runs better the less Hurts throws. He thrives throwing 20-24 times per game. Dumb to change that.

This is a horsesh17 argument to even present. I wasn’t angry. I just am the guy realizing so how much more out O could be. The whole time under Siri frankly. Hey …stats are pretty high during his time. Doesn’t for a second mean they couldn’t have been much more. I don’t even know what more to present in my on going debate on this subject. Every single thing has proved out exactly like I’ve been telling you the whole time. A situation of take my comments and opinions and rewatch Eagles football under Siri with a completely different perspective:mine. We pretty much had the same O. Especially after Hurts recruited AJ the second year of Siri.

This O has been capable of throwing up that Double Nickle(55) the whole dang time. Finally unleashed proved me exactly correct all along. Been there the whole time. How am I so wrong for questioning why our O so clearly capable of putting up 50 plus….hasnt been coming close to doing so? Just because we got the great results of winning it all..doesn’t mean nothing can be questioned. Absolutely an elite O. Best Oline, RB, WR duo and clearly best QB in franchise history. They’ve been tasked with overcoming our HC.

Explain why you possibly believe our O is talented enough to score and dominate in the first quarter. Even a decent tier leveled O mind running our O should have us top three first quarter scoring. Dead FREAKIN last!

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are the only one dead mindset on YAC Creation plays can only mean a screen. But yeah…the variety of screen plays are including in these. We have Smitty and AJ downfield with Saquan rushing the ball. What element would better compliment these factors for our specific O? Short YAC Creation plays…obviously. Our team even realizes what I’ve been saying. They drafted Ainias with this is mind.

"specialists" Not guys who break tackles, YAC "specialists LMAO

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain why you possibly believe our O is talented enough to score and dominate in the first quarter. Even a decent tier leveled O mind running our O should have us top three first quarter scoring. Dead FREAKIN last!

Debate annihilation!

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not true. So many times what happens is we are forced into either getting rid of a guy or extending him in unfavorable terms. We always are facing this backloaded cap money. It is a large factor in our decision making.

Not true

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Debate annihilation!

All that matters is what the scoreboard shows in the 4th 1/4 at 0:00

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not true. So many times what happens is we are forced into either getting rid of a guy or extending him in unfavorable terms. We always are facing this backloaded cap money. It is a large factor in our decision making.

How many guys? And how many from every other team? OH I forgot, Dullaz is the master at contracts(LMFAO)

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is a horsesh17 argument to even present. I wasn’t angry. I just am the guy realizing so how much more out O could be. The whole time under Siri frankly. Hey …stats are pretty high during his time. Doesn’t for a second mean they couldn’t have been much more. I don’t even know what more to present in my on going debate on this subject. Every single thing has proved out exactly like I’ve been telling you the whole time. A situation of take my comments and opinions and rewatch Eagles football under Siri with a completely different perspective:mine. We pretty much had the same O. Especially after Hurts recruited AJ the second year of Siri.

This O has been capable of throwing up that Double Nickle(55) the whole dang time. Finally unleashed proved me exactly correct all along. Been there the whole time. How am I so wrong for questioning why our O so clearly capable of putting up 50 plus….hasnt been coming close to doing so? Just because we got the great results of winning it all..doesn’t mean nothing can be questioned. Absolutely an elite O. Best Oline, RB, WR duo and clearly best QB in franchise history. They’ve been tasked with overcoming our HC.

I, me, my, so sad. Hurts is not the best QB in franchise history, he has the best supporting cast in franchise history. Hurts is middle of the pack. he would be ISH with a team that has no supporting cast. Delusional, but thanks for playing(you deserve no parting gifts)

On 5/3/2025 at 2:13 PM, joemas6 said:

Absolutely not... once you go down that road it sets the wrong path for the team. Next contracts come up and you have to keep overpaying. Just a bad move unless he becomes close to all pro level. Can't pay elite money for a solid player.

They’ve wrong path is exactly what the Pats have been doing. Becoming a destination players take less money elsewhere to avoid. What they have is tons of cap loot. They don’t have a winning culture and talent. Most get stuck overpaying the old used up Name player. That would have been just stupid. They bought themselves a piece of a winning culture. Good character person. Hard working blue collar player. Came from a small school with very little hype. Completely put in the work under the right supervision to be a self made talent. Young player that has improved every single season. Icing on the cake is rose to the challenges faced playing in the biggest game on the planet. Fantastic signing..for them. Wish him well with absolutely no bad beef about him deciding to grab the several generational wealth for his entire family line.

Hurts recruited AJ 🤣😂🙄

So many more factors surrounding Milton. It was a crap FA class. He’s no elite stud. But he is a player hitting his peak years of career they will be paying for instead of paying for past performance.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Logic makes perfect sense... you compare the cap hits during the coinciding years in the contract. If one is 4 years and the other is 5..I compare the 4 years because of the exact assumptions I just gave you.

I understand the assumptions. I just think they skew the base data. Because Howie uses void years and the Pats do not, your approach compares apples to oranges. The purchase price is the purchase price no matter whether you pay it all at once (the Pats’ approach) or in installments (Howie’s approach).

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just look back now and actually think about how happy it made some of you…that you actually believed in it….for us to played scared to lose all season. My wishes were for us to just unleash our O and tap into its potential. Siri’s approach did work. But because the playing scared approach worked….definitely doesn’t mean the go for it play with total confidence approach wasn’t going to. We could have just been putting up 50 on folks the whole time pretty much. That’s also a really safe approach to winning.

Those were your wishes, but they weren’t the wishes of Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, or Jordan Mailata.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri’s defenders always have wins and such to prop him up. Even in a Super Season….so many of the areas where you see the most Siri related ‘hand.’….were our biggest flaws. Nobody can debate Siri controlled the scripted gameplan each week. It was atrocious! He took what should have been the best O in the entire league….and couldn’t score a TD on the first quarter for a ridiculous amount of games. Finished as the worst first quarter scoring team. He pulled back such an elite O….to play scared.

Once finally unleashed when needed at the end….everything proved out exactly like I was saying the whole dang season. Our O just dominating and throwing up 50 points. So just consider for a single second how your opinion of loving pulling back our O capable of doing that the whole time was

Having a point differential of 170 after the Bye and only one loss is plenty good for me. A win is a win no matter how much you score or don’t score. It only counts one on the standings.

I suspect from your comments that you play Fantasy.

On 5/3/2025 at 2:13 PM, joemas6 said:

Absolutely not... once you go down that road it sets the wrong path for the team. Next contracts come up and you have to keep overpaying. Just a bad move unless he becomes close to all pro level. Can't pay elite money for a solid player.

All Pro? Like Carter bag he’ll receive from us. You must be joking here, right? You studying contracts and sending me links exactly where you can find all these numbers. We’ll be paying elite All Pro Jalen Carter well over 40 mil. Milton isn’t even in that ballpark. Laughable for you to even suggest by paying a little over half of what the All Pro DT are about to make is anywhere near All Pro dominant expectations. What did Milton get something like 26 mil per year? Just media BS numbers anyways. Big time money…for any of us. That position is just one step down from insane QB pay though. Be like paying a QB 30 mil. Try and make the same case over anybody signing a QB to those financials. Even Dak who can’t win a single playoff game has never hesitated to demand twice that salary.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The tradeoffs is exactly what I’m pointing towards. Name a position you feel would be more difficult for us to replace than C? Not even like we’d be forced into using a first round pick…like all the other positions. Day two pick to be groomed under the best: Stout. That hit rate would be absolutely astounding….if we didn’t just hit and stick with the first guy we tried for every time. Kelce…sixth round. In the second round Cam after Dickerson.

We could change C every five years.

You are describing a succession plan. Putting yourself in the position where you jettison your starter before the successor has two years of Stout development is foolish. Even with a well oiled succession plan like you describe, the team is changing its starting Center every two years. That is not good for either cohesion or chemistry.

So let’s place a gentlemen’s bet right here today. My opinion sits at the All Pro DT(personally referred to as Jalen Carter) will not be extended for anywhere near Milton’s contract you have such high expectations for no good reasoning.

Offer to extend Carter for 26 mil a year. He’d be so offended that would be the last offer he’d ever hear from us again. You are so far behind the times I’m confidently predicting almost twice the pay in fact. You’re that so clearly off on this subject.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Stout is a football elite person….not the salary cap managing calculator nerd.

You obviously don’t understand collaborative decision making, nor watched the 96 Hours video.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not as much as way overpaying will

That is your opinion. Clearly lots and lots of people disagree with you.