20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Fifth year option goes into effect the moment it’s exercised. That’s the point I’m highlighting…that you are missing here. We owe him that now. It’s more than he’s worth….plus puts us in bad leverage situation needing to extend to lower that cap hit. Fairly important big fork in that road with him. He’s owning us in these negotiations is my takeaway from it.

His contract will be reworked before we get there, please, Howie know what he is doing

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah you obviously aren’t speaking about the Bradberry and Huff contracts. It works for and against you. Problem lies in that everybody knows if Rosie isn’t extending you early…he’s not looking to pay you. Creates situations like Reddick and so on…:quality signing….but in the end we had to just suck up all that loot on a guy not even playing here.

WOW Howie isn't PERFECT, imagine that!!!!! Who in your view is better?

57 minutes ago, mattwill said:

For me, DT is a rotational position. We have had an extended discussion over in the Blog about what constitutes a "starter” in the NFL generally and for the Eagles specifically. We all agreed that in 2024 there was really only one DT starter … Jalen Carter. Working in conjunction with Carter were three role players … Davis, Williams and Ojomo.

2025 appears to be headed for the same scenario, with Davis, Ojomo, and Robinson all coming in at around 40% of the snaps. I expect there to be more Carter, Davis, Robinson, Edge fronts this season than there were Carter, Davis, Williams, Edge fronts on running downs.

Did you consider the Carter effect here? Davis has been playing next to the top guy that makes any Dline around him’s job as easy as it will ever be. So he’s actually been propped up…still hasn’t impressed. Not like Davis has been the focus and that’s why he’s reasonably being held back from producing more.

52 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We went to the SB after we took Bark off the gnats? SF was good only when Caff and all the WR's were at 100%. Then the wheels came off that wagon

Niners were only good when? The NFC has been going through the Niners before last season for years…straight.

By ALL accounts Huff was an up and comer. Howie took his chance and Fangio couldn't make him work in THIS defense. Not going to win every one of these additions

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Niners were only good when? The NFC has been going through the Niners before last season for years…straight.

Who were their division powerhouse they had to beat to win their division? Like the Pats annual 6 free games a year, not hard to win your division. You could say we had an easy path too for awhile in THIS division. Dallas not on top of their game, the Wuss are finally showing signs of being good,the Gnats have been terrible for awhile. The Pats basically started every year at 6-0

Los Angeles Ramsxz	10	7	0	0.588	367	386	-19	5 - 4 - 0	5 - 3 - 0	4 - 2 - 0	0.667	6 - 6 - 0	0.500	4 - 1 - 0	1L	4 - 1 - 0
Seattle Seahawks	10	7	0	0.588	375	368	7	3 - 6 - 0	7 - 1 - 0	4 - 2 - 0	0.667	6 - 6 - 0	0.500	4 - 1 - 0	2W	3 - 2 - 0
Arizona Cardinals	8	9	0	0.471	400	379	21	6 - 3 - 0	2 - 6 - 0	3 - 3 - 0	0.500	4 - 8 - 0	0.333	4 - 1 - 0	1W	2 - 3 - 0
San Francisco 49ers	6	11

58 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SF tried to buy a SB and it failed

Nothing wrong with that. Fairly usual approach. I’m in favor of pushing the chips to go all in at the right times. Take your best shot when you can. Bring home a parade…deal with having cap issues two seasons later. I buy into taking that trade off in most situations.

Last year. Rams were good(Finally). Seattle not really great(still won more games) AZ not good(still won more games),so really the Rams are their only competition(recently) They were dead last in their division,because they went ALL in for a SB and didn't make it, last year they paid for that and I suspect now that division will be alot tougher for them to win. So to say the NFL goes through SF is fallacy

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Clearly Howie, Stoutland, and Fangio disagree with you.

Don’t see the complete football guys also being the nerd calculator masters.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nothing wrong with that. Fairly usual approach. I’m in favor of pushing the chips to go all in at the right times. Take your best shot when you can. Bring home a parade…deal with having cap issues two seasons later. I buy into taking that trade off in most situations.

Howie did and we got there, but of course then you lose alot of guys,happens to every SB winner. Players and coaches will be poached and you start again

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I’m a numbers guy … 800 in my Math College Boards … and a Wharton MBA, and for all 22 positions on the field, the same dollar amount has distinctly different meaning. RB is not seen across the NFL as a high leverage position. I personally don’t agree with that perspective, but that is what GMs and agents have bought into.

Further, RB is a high wear and tear position, so there is much higher risk that the agreed to dollars will go to an injured (or worn out) player who doesn’t see the field. That risk of no ROI is factored into the negotiations and agreed to salary.

How do the numbers look about how well teams perform based on just whether a player is on the field or not? It’s a big factor. Not everything…but can’t reason having to pay big money when you don’t rely on that player very much anyway. Like you point towards NFL value at RB…I equate and compare that league wide valuation towards run defenders versus pass defenders. Money all overwhelmingly flies towards passing.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I’m a numbers guy … 800 in my Math College Boards … and a Wharton MBA, and for all 22 positions on the field, the same dollar amount has distinctly different meaning. RB is not seen across the NFL as a high leverage position. I personally don’t agree with that perspective, but that is what GMs and agents have bought into.

Further, RB is a high wear and tear position, so there is much higher risk that the agreed to dollars will go to an injured (or worn out) player who doesn’t see the field. That risk of no ROI is factored into the negotiations and agreed to salary.

See being you can wrap your head around the numbers fairly well leads me exactly into my whole thinking here. Paying Cam and Davis so much really going to limit our future options.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie did and we got there, but of course then you lose alot of guys,happens to every SB winner. Players and coaches will be poached and you start again

I was hoping we kept Becton on, but you can't win them all. We resurrected his career. I wish him well, but we also knew he was a short term band aid. Someone needs to become the CLEAR starting RG now

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

You need to do some research into the proportion of 3rd Down and long situations that the Eagles Defense produced in the games after the Bye. That is the metric of how effective the Eagles run defense was at taking the opposing RBs out of the game.

Wasn’t just D related. Us having leads plays a major factor forcing opponents to pass. I even took things much further. We’re so incredible at killing games and icing leads…we put even more pressure that way on.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See being you can wrap your head around the numbers fairly well leads me exactly into my whole thinking here. Paying Cam and Davis so much really going to limit our future options.

LOL Howie re-signs them, gives them up front CASH/bonus and what you view as "overpaying" is a bargain 1-2- 3 years from now as the cap limits keep rising

But do feel the need to back up the legitimate point you are bringing up regarding Davis effect towards our run D success.

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then Hurts needs to learn to throw tunning to the left

What are you talking about now? You were convinced he couldn’t throw over the middle …when he was stuck in Siri’s O and crappy slot receiving options the whole time. Then Moore moves AJ and Smitty and passing over the middle isn’t any problems anymore.

I believe the NFC runs through Philly (maybe Detroit), your 9ers have a long road back

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lane has dealt with the top rushers for many years, now you are saying a rookie is going to teach him some things? I have my doubts. and BTW WHAT are you going to DO about it? Nothing, there is nothing you can do about it except whine and worry. if we need to go to the quick passing game we will

Lane has been just amazing. But this kid they got is a beast! Actually think he’s even a matchup issue for Lane. So yes…my pony is very much surrounding how the giants just drafted a sick pass rusher. Been much better they reached for Sanders at QB instead.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

You need to do some research into the proportion of 3rd Down and long situations that the Eagles Defense produced in the games after the Bye. That is the metric of how effective the Eagles run defense was at taking the opposing RBs out of the game.

Many factors at play here though. Fangio scheme and playcall against the run I’m calling a huge factor.

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then Hurts needs to learn to throw tunning to the left

You have no reason to make this statement here at all.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WOW Howie isn't PERFECT, imagine that!!!!! Who in your view is better?

Well when you really dig in and get specific…his choices were most all the bad moves. All of Fangio’s choices were fantastic.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

The problem with clearing out the box is that you don’t punish (and wear down) the Defense as much. Imposing their will on the opponent is at the heart of the Eagles Offensive game plan

I disagree. Our Oline is built to punish. No Dline can get away from that fact. Even add in how spreading out more actually forces more smaller coverage DBs on the field….instead of a LB. Really punish DBs with any pulling Oline.

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

By ALL accounts Huff was an up and comer. Howie took his chance and Fangio couldn't make him work in THIS defense. Not going to win every one of these additions

Wasn’t by the account of his own team even attempting to keep him. Such an obvious situation of a good D coach and D personnel situation creating everything so ideal for the less gifted player. Rosie had already decided on making the move based on Reddick.