13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So what happened with Bradberry? Are you saying his cap hit was lowered last year? Because he got hurt?

Are you saying Hurts cap it was lowered? Goedert's cap hit was lowered?

I can only speculate, but my gut tells me that Hurts (who definitely has been insured by Howie) injury did not have sufficient duration to qualify for a payout under the terms of the insurance policy. So no impact on the cap.

Goedert’s injury probably wasn’t of sufficient duration either, so more than likely no impact.

Bradberry’s injury was almost surely of sufficient duration to warrant a payout, BUT such a payout would only happen IF Howie had purchased a policy covering Bradberry.

For the purposes of discussion let’s assume Howie did. How the Cap is impacted is a bit of a guess. Neither Spotrac nor OTC show retroactive adjustments at the player level, so my suspicion is that any and all insurance proceeds are included in the Cap Adjustments amount in the following year’s Cap.

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I'm looking at the 4 years....I don't care about the void or anything in 2030 yet. You can't look at those numbers in comparison...because Milton only has 4 years....if you go further you assume too much....

That logic makes no sense. If you compare the cost to purchase two homes and one had a 15 year mortgage and the other has a 30 year mortgage, do you only consider years 1-15 of the 30 year mortgage house?

https://247sports.com/Player/Baylor-Cupp-46050629/ released by KC. Injury bugged early in his career. Excellent blocker and very FAST for his size. Could be a TE/slot. Not that we need more TE's in camp, but this kid could be exceptional if he stays healthy. Also has some experience on defense. IDK I find him at least intriguing

2023 SEASON (SENIOR)
Again a key fixture in the tight end room during his final season as a Red Raider … appeared in 12 of 13 games with seven starts overall … was tied with Mason Tharp for the most starts from the tight end position … missed only the non-conference finale against Tarleton State … caught 11 passes for 114 yards and two touchdowns with at least one reception in 10 of 12 games overall … praised by the coaching staff for his blocking ability, especially in the running game … credited with 453 offensive snaps by Pro Football Focus, which led the tight end room … received a 69.0 grade as a run blocker for the season with four games at 70.0 or better … caught 11 of his 12 total targets on the season according to PFF …

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

That logic makes no sense. If you compare the cost to purchase two homes and one had a 15 year mortgage and the other has a 30 year mortgage, do you only consider years 1-15 of the 30 year mortgage house?

Logic makes perfect sense... you compare the cap hits during the coinciding years in the contract. If one is 4 years and the other is 5..I compare the 4 years because of the exact assumptions I just gave you.

On 5/2/2025 at 11:24 PM, mattwill said:

You don't spread out the formation to run, statistics clearly tell us that spread formations are predominantly for passing plays.

In pass protection, the DL fires out and the OL holds ground. In running plays the OL fires out with its first step rather than drop stepping backwards.

Your logic is decades old and been proven inaccurate. Can even point to our own history of how our most effective rushing under Chip Kelly was when we put a third WR on the field. The D has to match personnel and it keeps them out of the box. So much harder to be sneaky disguising the D the more things are spread out…so obviously.

On 5/2/2025 at 11:27 PM, mattwill said:

Why did we have leads?

Sure wasn’t due to any great gameplans that Siri formulated. An O that all season was capable of throwing up 55 points….was the worst team scoring in the first quarter.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure wasn’t due to any great gameplans that Siri formulated. An O that all season was capable of throwing up 55 points….was the worst team scoring in the first quarter.

Just look back now and actually think about how happy it made some of you…that you actually believed in it….for us to played scared to lose all season. My wishes were for us to just unleash our O and tap into its potential. Siri’s approach did work. But because the playing scared approach worked….definitely doesn’t mean the go for it play with total confidence approach wasn’t going to. We could have just been putting up 50 on folks the whole time pretty much. That’s also a really safe approach to winning.

Siri’s defenders always have wins and such to prop him up. Even in a Super Season….so many of the areas where you see the most Siri related ‘hand.’….were our biggest flaws. Nobody can debate Siri controlled the scripted gameplan each week. It was atrocious! He took what should have been the best O in the entire league….and couldn’t score a TD on the first quarter for a ridiculous amount of games. Finished as the worst first quarter scoring team. He pulled back such an elite O….to play scared.

Once finally unleashed when needed at the end….everything proved out exactly like I was saying the whole dang season. Our O just dominating and throwing up 50 points. So just consider for a single second how your opinion of loving pulling back our O capable of doing that the whole time was

On 5/2/2025 at 11:28 PM, mattwill said:

Not having them on the team and Howie having to find their replacement(s) would really limit our future options as well.

Life is all about tradeoffs.

The tradeoffs is exactly what I’m pointing towards. Name a position you feel would be more difficult for us to replace than C? Not even like we’d be forced into using a first round pick…like all the other positions. Day two pick to be groomed under the best: Stout. That hit rate would be absolutely astounding….if we didn’t just hit and stick with the first guy we tried for every time. Kelce…sixth round. In the second round Cam after Dickerson.

We could change C every five years.

On 5/2/2025 at 11:31 PM, mattwill said:

Would you please say that in English?

Stout is a football elite person….not the salary cap managing calculator nerd.

On 5/2/2025 at 11:28 PM, mattwill said:

Not having them on the team and Howie having to find their replacement(s) would really limit our future options as well.

Life is all about tradeoffs.

Not as much as way overpaying will

On 5/2/2025 at 11:32 PM, mattwill said:

FYP

This guy was universally considered the best player on this draft class. Elite pass rusher. Went to our division rival. You guys aren’t considering this near enough. It’s a big problem!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

This guy was universally considered the best player on this draft class. Elite pass rusher. Went to our division rival. You guys aren’t considering this near enough. It’s a big problem!

I have laid out an extension track record of my opinions for decades here. But can just point to last season where I tried to let everybody know Jayden Daniels was a huge problem…immediately from when the Commanders drafted him. Everybody just shrugged shoulders…never even considered the Commanders as a possible threat. They beat us….and gave us a run all the way in the NFC Championship game.

Giants aren’t looking to make any run to the SB. But them possessing such an elite pass rusher can damage our season in a heartbeat.

On 5/3/2025 at 1:26 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

You're worried about Abdul overpowering Lane. If he gets through Hurts has to go left to pass./throw the ball away or get sacked. What's not to understand?

Exactly not this thought. Not an advantage overpowering Lane. Please try again. We do have some nice parting gifts for you.

On 5/3/2025 at 1:28 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Abduhl gets through, where does Hurts go?????? Just take the sack??? If you can't understand that, I can't help you. it's very simple football reality

Where does Hurts go indeed….my worry would be the trainers table.

On 5/3/2025 at 1:31 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

I was talking about OUR DIVISION. Detroit is not in the NFCE

Ok I get you….my thoughts seem to always be larger

On 5/3/2025 at 1:32 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

We're going to be in "the window" for a LONG time. We will be competitive for a LONG time

I wish for nothing but to agree with you. But I’m breaking things down much more specifically at our two year contending window laid out right in front of us. Lane and Saquan have two more years in them. Several other factors….but those two players are key enough to stay real focused on being all about winning now.

On 5/3/2025 at 12:52 PM, joemas6 said:

Do yourself a favor...and this is a good piece of advice. The draft is over, no need to watch your hours of film now.

So here is a great 3 minutes of your time

Enter in your browser... overthecap.com

Click positions on the top right

Click " center"

Then you get your list of centers. You will see on their list Jurgens is #2. However, this is where the next 90 seconds comes in as a great investment of your time.

Click on the top 7 or 8 centers names...just look at the contracts, if on your phone it's even easier as you just see the cap hits.

Then you will understand why the extension for Jurgens was a no-brainer.

Simple math... they signed a guy entering year 4, already pro bowl and fits 100% into the culture as part of the core....for dirt cheap cap hits. He is younger and way cheaper than all those other guys. And locked in until 2029. Where by the time 2027 season starts, the #s for C are going to go way up. Making his deal even less expensive. On top of that, they can easily redo the deal after 2027 or 2028. Lowering the cap hits even more.

The usual of how great the inflation numbers rise….actually doesn’t apply to C. Big time push the numbers C…just inked a new deal. But again…you love the actually pay for play weighted so heavy at the backend of the deal.

On 5/3/2025 at 1:00 PM, joemas6 said:

The way the Eagles understand the market, and how the cap is going to go up huge in the future...

They use tomorrow's pennies to save today's dollars.

Locking in guys at today's value for the next 5 years. As other teams have to give more expensive deals to players that aren't as good. This is how they stay ahead of the cap and the rest of the league.

They do it because of how Lurie enables this whole feature for our team. Only way this can be accomplished is Lurie putting up all this up front money. Not just signing bonus money…but owners have to bank all guaranteed money.

On 5/3/2025 at 1:00 PM, joemas6 said:

The way the Eagles understand the market, and how the cap is going to go up huge in the future...

They use tomorrow's pennies to save today's dollars.

Locking in guys at today's value for the next 5 years. As other teams have to give more expensive deals to players that aren't as good. This is how they stay ahead of the cap and the rest of the league.

First: main argument is about that shouldn’t be Cam’s value today.

Second:Creed just reset the C market. He’s light years better player than Cam. Not even a comparison. Nobody is resting the market higher than him at C anytime soon. So what we just did was overpay an above average C in a market right after it just blew up to its highest peak point.

On 5/3/2025 at 1:06 PM, joemas6 said:

No Mas didn't realize that 27 DTs make over $13 million....of course the additions of this year's overpaid guys, including the ridiculous amount Milton Williams received is part of it.

As BG said, that's $12.9 mil in 2026. I would assume a deal gets done or even a possible trade. The Eagles hold the cards in this situation, as we can assume even more DTs will make that $12.9 mil amount, Davis should want to make a deal.

How many teams are in the NFL? 32

Then playing a small percentage of snaps would rank Davis about? 74th DT pay

On 5/3/2025 at 1:06 PM, joemas6 said:

No Mas didn't realize that 27 DTs make over $13 million....of course the additions of this year's overpaid guys, including the ridiculous amount Milton Williams received is part of it.

As BG said, that's $12.9 mil in 2026. I would assume a deal gets done or even a possible trade. The Eagles hold the cards in this situation, as we can assume even more DTs will make that $12.9 mil amount, Davis should want to make a deal.

I can’t agree with this at all. I was just laying out the whole situation surrounding Davis a week before we decided this. We aren’t holding the cards here. This gave Davis a huge leverage advantage in every way.

On 5/3/2025 at 12:55 PM, joemas6 said:

On top of everything with Jurgens contract.. I forgot to mention after the extension , they saved 2 million on this year's cap.

This is a no brainer....probably best contract other than Hurts deal as far as market value for the position. And neither need to be in the top 5 of their position to get this value.

You have knowledge and understanding of contracts….just makes those assessment by you all the more disappointing

On 5/3/2025 at 2:10 PM, joemas6 said:

But you obsess over the " Yac Creation plays" that the rest of us call a screen. Rank Goedert, Calcaterra and Ertz ...on how they are on this type of play?

You are the only one dead mindset on YAC Creation plays can only mean a screen. But yeah…the variety of screen plays are including in these. We have Smitty and AJ downfield with Saquan rushing the ball. What element would better compliment these factors for our specific O? Short YAC Creation plays…obviously. Our team even realizes what I’ve been saying. They drafted Ainias with this is mind.