Iron sharpens iron. Exciting, entertaining schedule for us. Should be a fun year. I doubt we win 14 games but we should vie for the division title again

59 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s redefining what’s actually important.

🤣 What has his innovation been for you to make this statement? The tush push involves many players to execute. What do you now define as "important"? Please make a list of Hurts innovations then a list of what is important. Make them separate posts so we can discuss it

49 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

🤣 What has his innovation been for you to make this statement? The tush push involves many players to execute. What do you now define as "important"? Please make a list of Hurts innovations then a list of what is important. Make them separate posts so we can discuss it

He’s proving it every day of what you thought was important and needed to be successful wasn’t correct. After Jalen Hurts that definition has been redefined. Absolute focus on dedicated competitive drive to lead and win…gained by year round driven preparation to do so.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s proving it every day of what you thought was important and needed to be successful wasn’t correct. After Jalen Hurts that definition has been redefined. Absolute focus on dedicated competitive drive to lead and win…gained by year round driven preparation to do so.

Actually added in just a decent level of coaching….wow what a huge difference that provided. Completely game changing that we finally provided our best ever franchise QB leader actual coaching football knowledge. Imagine if we had just provided that most basic service to a player of the upmost importance from the beggining? Guess it would have completely limited all your b17ching points you’ve stick to against him along. Nah….that would only apply to those being logical.

Kellen Moore of all people looking like Don Shula, Walsh and Lombardi rolled into one. Crazy….yet more really just pathetic. Gotta remember that I actually made a clear point I wasn’t ever very high on Moore even. The coach I don’t even believe is at levels good enough…..came here and showed the Grand Canyon existing void of O mind disfunction. That not good enough….was an insane light years leap forward for us!

Kellen Moore was the most obvious educated guess at our runner up to be HC instead of Siri. Just imagine if instead of hiring Siri solely because of the group of assistance he has lined up if we hired the better O mind right from the get go. The Coach who could…ughh …actually coach our most important franchise QB this whole time from the beggining of his first year starting as such a young leader. Instead of short term thinking and gains ruling all decisions under Siri….we acted like every other organization always prioritizes our franchise QB from the start. Not saying our best ever franchise QB hadn’t learned anything before this season since Siri has been here….but man….feels not far off from he could have already reached the point he now reached years ago.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Kellen Moore was the most obvious educated guess at our runner up to be HC instead of Siri. Just imagine if instead of hiring Siri solely because of the group of assistance he has lined up if we hired the better O mind right from the get go. The Coach who could…ughh …actually coach our most important franchise QB this whole time from the beggining of his first year starting as such a young leader. Instead of short term thinking and gains ruling all decisions under Siri….we acted like every other organization always prioritizes our franchise QB from the start. Not saying our best ever franchise QB hadn’t learned anything before this season since Siri has been here….but man….feels not far off from he could have already reached the point he now reached years ago.

But Siri will be propped up by the results his elite QB has delivered despite of him ….without a doubt being massively gained by such quality teamates(both ability and character). When everyone here should actually be the exact fans that could know and understand so much better. Siri being green…unqualified and devoid of X and O wisdoms…worst part one step short term thinking driven. That all wasn’t a benefit to be championed and celebrated. That in truth all the very knowledgable fans of our organization should be exactly the ones to understand and see through the BS.

Siri delivered one step thinking process revolving around decision making that skipped past the most obvious fundamental needs towards our O growth all along. To begin his career as HC our team arrived to begin his first season way behind out of TC. Which would be completely understandable if it was for the right reasoning. If it was because we had such a young QB he was growing and developing the right way being the holdup.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

You guys are being theatrical just for the sake of being theatrical

Entertainment is the product..remember that.

Matt or Will? Two first names. We’ll get you a nickname here. So hard to catch you up completely over years of endless year round discussions that have occurred. I am not some Hurts is god blind follower like I’ve been labeled. I’m very much a Realist. I don’t see much of anything or anybody that is perfect all the time. I view the world as more grey. Even the best and fantastic still have moments and areas to scrutinize and our less than perfect.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Iron sharpens iron. Exciting, entertaining schedule for us. Should be a fun year. I doubt we win 14 games but we should vie for the division title again

11.5 is the Vegas over / under...just as high of a record as there is in the league.

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s proving it every day of what you thought was important and needed to be successful wasn’t correct. After Jalen Hurts that definition has been redefined. Absolute focus on dedicated competitive drive to lead and win…gained by year round driven preparation to do so.

So these things you are saying that Hurts brings are new?

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually added in just a decent level of coaching….wow what a huge difference that provided. Completely game changing that we finally provided our best ever franchise QB leader actual coaching football knowledge. Imagine if we had just provided that most basic service to a player of the upmost importance from the beggining? Guess it would have completely limited all your b17ching points you’ve stick to against him along. Nah….that would only apply to those being logical.

Come on now....the coach is awful. Remember when the Giants fan wouldn't let him enjoy his meal with his family and he actually talked trash back to him.

A coach just can't do that....awful Xs and Os.

So shortest version possible is: e try single person that reads here(many you haven’t probably even heard from yet)….was against switching to Hurts in favor of retaining Wentz. Except…you guessed it…my lone voice that has remained unwavering the entire time against the entire mob rising against me. I recognized Hurts outstanding qualities. Stuck by him regardless of all others not just not sharing my opinion and view….actively being brutally hostile against my views surrounding Hurts.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kellen Moore of all people looking like Don Shula, Walsh and Lombardi rolled into one. Crazy….yet more really just pathetic. Gotta remember that I actually made a clear point I wasn’t ever very high on Moore even. The coach I don’t even believe is at levels good enough…..came here and showed the Grand Canyon existing void of O mind disfunction. That not good enough….was an insane light years leap forward for us!

Or... when they decided to throw less than any other team in the league... and it changed everything

Now me being such a fan of Hurts never blinded me to everything. That’s a fairly big difference between who I as a realist and most others. I very specifically detailed instead exactly where I saw our very young QB needing to improve and grow. Explained how when you just pay enough attention to everything how everything was actually very obviously to be expected. Him never being in the same O under the same playcaller ever in college lead to several shortcomings in his development. Very obvious…easily predictable…I’d say/

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

You guys are being theatrical just for the sake of being theatrical

The one thing you will get from Ham...is he will tell you his resume constantly ..." I called it" is why he is on here. Not really to discuss the Eagles.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So these things you are saying that Hurts brings are new?

Nothing is new. Always has existed. Just never what’s been understood before now. Heck…several hardcore fans of our team watched every second of it taking shape in front of their own eyes still struggling to comprehend it even today after celebrating the ultimate glory.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

You guys are being theatrical just for the sake of being theatrical

And a sign of his desperation ...is when he posts about a dozen or so long philosophical posts having to prove he is just objective when it comes to Hurts. Never

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Come on now....the coach is awful. Remember when the Giants fan wouldn't let him enjoy his meal with his family and he actually talked trash back to him.

A coach just can't do that....awful Xs and Os.

I remember our whole stadium chanting football advice to him

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Come on now....the coach is awful. Remember when the Giants fan wouldn't let him enjoy his meal with his family and he actually talked trash back to him.

A coach just can't do that....awful Xs and Os.

I can remember even during our super season just playing out him proving he wasn’t blocking out everything around him. He actually went to explain his actions to our own fans. That happened this last season even:

11 hours ago, mattwill said:

Ancient history. All players evolve. Hurts is no different. Compared to Marino and Elway he had flaws. Even you can agree to that.

He has never been and never will be a prototypical QB. He is a modern age QB for this modern age of football.

Never answering a direct question.

Like who has a better OL....who has a better RB...who has a better group of receiving targets. Or who has a better defense. Etc.

That's " hating" when you state the obvious.

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Come on now....the coach is awful. Remember when the Giants fan wouldn't let him enjoy his meal with his family and he actually talked trash back to him.

A coach just can't do that....awful Xs and Os.

See you constantly can only view things as awful or great. Rainbows and butterflies…or train wreck. Just not reality. Free yourself and your mindset.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nothing is new. Always has existed. Just never what’s been understood before now. Heck…several hardcore fans of our team watched every second of it taking shape in front of their own eyes still struggling to comprehend it even today after celebrating the ultimate glory.

Yes.... I know one fan in this thread that absolutely wasn't seeing the glory of this past season as it was unfolding. 100% correct.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See you constantly can only view things as awful or great. Rainbows and butterflies…or train wreck. Just not reality. Free yourself and your mindset.

Yes... I'm the one on here that uses extremes...lol

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Come on now....the coach is awful. Remember when the Giants fan wouldn't let him enjoy his meal with his family and he actually talked trash back to him.

A coach just can't do that....awful Xs and Os.

He’s hard working driven dedicated competitive as heck. Those are strengths. But yeah….he’s needed to mature and grow up. Not many other situations could have worked for him. Instead of the mature HC leading things….the immature green coach had such a mature very young QB to carry that mantle for him: