6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because that is your general on the field. It used to be entertainment. It has added numerous other things some being corporate greed and political forums. It's morphed alot since the Heidi bowl

He is only on the field 50% of the time. How do you account for that?

The NFL’s product is not entertainment. Its industry is entertainment, but not its product. It actually hasn’t morphed at all since the Heidi Incident (it was a regular season game rather than a bowl game). If you had said it has morphed since the first Eagles Championship Games in ‘48 and ‘49 I’d have agreed with you, but by ‘68 when the Heidi game took place the morphing had completed. The caterpillar had transformed into a butterfly.

So, my question still stands .,, what is the NFL’s product?

15 hours ago, mattwill said:

I didn’t read it that way, but as I said above, I am new to your merry band of men, so I can’t always tell the players without a scorecard.

The agenda will become clear soon enough....Eagles win despite Siri, Howie gets lucky and still not great in writing contracts...and most importantly Jalen Hurts never makes a mistake.

15 hours ago, mattwill said:

Regarding the RB usage last season, I believe George Eliot said it best … "What novelty is worth that sweet monotony where everything is known and loved because it is known?"

Which suggests that the comfort and familiarity of a routine are often more valuable than new and exciting experiences.

Is that balance sheet approach?

15 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are you still that clueless? Hurts could be top ten? He’s best franchise QB ever. On a HOF track

Matt.....you understand now? Complete disregard for the actual topic of Cam's contract....and right to this.

15 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure,but it's great as a coach to reward a player who makes a spectacular play and gets you to the 1. I would sure give that guy every shot to score. Don't have to of course, but it's a nice gesture to put a stamp on that drive

I don't really think that was an issue with Barkley. And as a fan, I wouldn't look for drama that isn't there.

The thing I liked from day 1 of last year...nothing mattered except winning. You worry about Barkley getting a TD...Ham wanted Barkley to get the rushing record . All meaningless... as proven by the team last year. Focus was winning and nothing else.

As it should be

15 hours ago, mattwill said:

Ham, I believe you have misread Joe‘s statement. What he was saying was generic that the contract terms of the Hertz contract would be excellent for a to any top 10 quarterback and an absolute steel for a top five quarterback. He wasn’t making any observation about whether Hertz was in any of those categories

Ahhhh... you are starting to understand the agenda now. " All hail Hurts"

We can talk about balance sheet and your favorite flavor of ice cream....the spin will always be " all hail Hurts" " Howie is lucky " and " win inspite of the coach"

Me = " hey, your car is red"

Ham = " how can you not understand how great Hurts is"

GB= " I used to play in a band'

Ham = " how can you not see Hurts is perfect "

That's pretty much it.

15 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No Mas and I’ve been calling him FL before he moved to NC. They both just HurtsHate endlessly

I've been calling him GB ... not sure of any FL.

But I don't use " Rosie" "Pedey" " Ceedy" either .....so it is what it is.

22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The agenda will become clear soon enough....Eagles win despite Siri, Howie gets lucky and still not great in writing contracts...and most importantly Jalen Hurts never makes a mistake.

Is that an agenda, or is Ham simply stating his opinion? We all have opinions, some held very tightly. They aren’t facts, just opinions.

15 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

False, YOU said I hate him. which I never said

Matt will see for himself.... you really don't need to show anything. All hail...

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I've been calling him GB ... not sure of any FL.

But I don't use " Rosie" "Pedey" " Ceedy" either .....so it is what it is.

I too would appreciate a ceasing of the pejorative Rosie.

What is Pedey? short for pedophile?

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Is that an agenda, or is Ham simply stating his opinion? We all have opinions, some held very tightly. They aren’t facts, just opinions.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Is that an agenda, or is Ham simply stating his opinion? We all have opinions, some held very tightly. They aren’t facts, just opinions.

That is the end game. Every post he makes has that end game. He won't ever talk about the details of a contract because it will force him to concede its a good move by Howie. Everything wrong with the offense was when Siri uses his influence...." Siri just isn’t good at Xs and Os,not qualified for the job even though at time of hire way more of a resume than Andy or Doug.

Howie messed up the cap in 2019... SF cleared cap.....SF has the " great O mind as a coach " we should be envious of SF.

Hurts just carries us.. he made the AJ trade.

Bad move drafting Lane...he needs PEDs and probably will be suspended for life ...should have drafted Ziggy Anzah... this was for like 4 years he constantly had to say this.

Recently he obsessed over Bryce Huff... he needs to obsess over any Howie move that doesn't seem good. Howie messed up not keeping Reddick ( who was the best defender on our team last year) ...we heard this up until the SB win.

So to sum up....every post will lead to the end game.....Siri sucks, Howie is maybe average and Hurts is perfect.

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Matt.....you understand now? Complete disregard for the actual topic of Cam's contract....and right to this.

Well, that back and forth goes both ways. In the equally heated and polarized discussions of Hurts in the Blog this past season, going into the Playoffs the Hurts skeptics had him ranked somewhere around # 10, one had him as low as #15. After the NFCCG and the SB, the skeptics were very quiet. In almost everyone’s eyes Hurts had passed Daniels, Stafford, Herbert, Nix, Prescott, etc. and really only trailed Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, and Burrow.

19 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I too would appreciate a ceasing of the pejorative Rosie.

What is Pedey? short for pedophile?

Doug Pederson

Cowboys trade for George Pickens

Great receiver but a possible locker room cancer?

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Well, that back and forth goes both ways. In the equally heated and polarized discussions of Hurts in the Blog this past season, going into the Playoffs the Hurts skeptics had him ranked somewhere around # 10, one had him as low as #15. After the NFCCG and the SB, the skeptics were very quiet. In almost everyone’s eyes Hurts had passed Daniels, Stafford, Herbert, Nix, Prescott, etc. and really only trailed Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, and Burrow.

Who really cares about outside skeptics...the conversation is between us here. I don't have your posts influenced by what people outside the conversation say.

The GM is excellent, very easy to argue the best in the league. The coach just wins, worked his way up paying his dues over the years, still young and the players and everyone else in the organization seem to like and respect him.

The QB wins doing it his way, and absolutely takes advantage of the best supporting 10 in the league.

None of the 3 are perfect.

16 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Well, that back and forth goes both ways. In the equally heated and polarized discussions of Hurts in the Blog this past season, going into the Playoffs the Hurts skeptics had him ranked somewhere around # 10, one had him as low as #15. After the NFCCG and the SB, the skeptics were very quiet. In almost everyone’s eyes Hurts had passed Daniels, Stafford, Herbert, Nix, Prescott, etc. and really only trailed Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, and Burrow.

In my balance sheet approach... I don't have what other people say influence my conversation or what you might say. I'll take your posts as just your posts... maybe I'm short sighted...but that's me.

7 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Cowboys trade for George Pickens

Great receiver but a possible locker room cancer?

Jerry needed to make a splash. But that WR2 was a need

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

That is the end game. Every post he makes has that end game. He won't ever talk about the details of a contract because it will force him to concede its a good move by Howie. Everything wrong with the offense was when Siri uses his influence...." Siri just isn’t good at Xs and Os,not qualified for the job even though at time of hire way more of a resume than Andy or Doug.

Howie messed up the cap in 2019... SF cleared cap.....SF has the " great O mind as a coach " we should be envious of SF.

Hurts just carries us.. he made the AJ trade.

Bad move drafting Lane...he needs PEDs and probably will be suspended for life ...should have drafted Ziggy Anzah... this was for like 4 years he constantly had to say this.

Recently he obsessed over Bryce Huff... he needs to obsess over any Howie move that doesn't seem good. Howie messed up not keeping Reddick ( who was the best defender on our team last year) ...we heard this up until the SB win.

So to sum up....every post will lead to the end game.....Siri sucks, Howie is maybe average and Hurts is perfect.

Well Howie isn’t perfect. The nature of the work he and all GMs do is fraught with uncertainty. It is a lot like batting in baseball. In that particular job batting .300 is considered outstanding and batting .400 is legendary. That means failure happens more than six times out of ten. Howie is expected to be perfect by many fans, but we all know that fans is short for fanatics, and the definition of fanatic references insanity.

We are all a little bit insane.

In fairness to Ham’s assessment of Siriani, what I have read in the assessments of Hurts here is that he succeeds largely because of the supporting cast around him, which is essentially Ham’s argument against Siriani. I look at Siriani’s winning percentage and I see #4 all time. That isn’t perfection, but it is about as close as any coach in the NFL has gotten. I look at Hurts’ winning record and very few QBs come even close. But instead of getting caught up in any of that, I’m sitting back and enjoying the ride.

I had the pleasure of going to the 1960 Championship Game with my Dad. But between 1960 and the year Lurie bought the team there were some pathetic times. I’m very very thankful for what we have now and also know it can fall apart in an instant … and that all our judgments are subjective.

I really like and respect Hurts, but I don’t worship him. I really admire what Howie does, but I don’t worship him. I look at what Siriani has accomplished with deep respect, but I don’t worship him. Torturing this metaphor, I do worship the Eagles … and bleed green blood.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Jerry needed to make a splash. But that WR2 was a need

I lived in Dallas from 1989 through 1996 one block from Jerry. I’ve watched his insanity up close and personal. I thank every single day he owns the Cowboys. His irrationality has been the death of that franchise.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

In my balance sheet approach... I don't have what other people say influence my conversation or what you might say. I'll take your posts as just your posts... maybe I'm short sighted...but that's me.

Doesn’t sound short sighted to me. Sounds spot on.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who really cares about outside skeptics...the conversation is between us here. I don't have your posts influenced by what people outside the conversation say.

The GM is excellent, very easy to argue the best in the league. The coach just wins, worked his way up paying his dues over the years, still young and the players and everyone else in the organization seem to like and respect him.

The QB wins doing it his way, and absolutely takes advantage of the best supporting 10 in the league.

None of the 3 are perfect.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I thought this post was worth sharing, both the quoted part and the response.

15 hours ago, mattwill said:

Please please please can we all agree to disagree about whether or not any of us are Hurts haters or Hurts knobers or anywhere in between? It really doesn’t matter what we think of Hurts. It is a team sport What matters is what the team does on the field. And what the team has done on the field has been superb.

There is no denying the Hurts knober.

Goedert staying with the Eagles on a reworked contract

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Goedert staying with the Eagles on a reworked contract

From 14m to 10m with possibility of an extra 1m in incentives