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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No Mas, do you believe WR make reads and adjustments?

I believe the whole team does... I believe the QB is the one that has to change things...the little adjustments 

I believe our QB is a good runner.  His whole life he didn't have to play the chess match because his athletic ability allowed him to win the checkers match...one read and then just run.

I believe that is the part of the game that he needs to work on the most.  

I believe he made a lot of mistakes last year making reads and decisions.   

Everything aside...I believe you will never blame him for any negative thing that happens....not even give him a small percentage of the blame.

Idk what your fascination is with him.. but when it comes to looking at his play objectively...you can't do it.

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8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Siri is a D guy now?

He’s the HC. He’s stressed his philosophies. He wants his D to not give up the big play as number one priority always. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

"You bump...you force them to play football... if you get bear, who cares.   The alternative is them constantly having the ball.  " This is your quote in response. Your screenshot the outside CB is 6 yards off backpedaling with over coverage.

Yes... you can bump without being in man to man bump and run coverage right?   You can bump in a zone where the CB holds the outside position. 

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dude... your QB us not there in the mental part of the game. He needs to change that...or he won't last long in the league.

He’s lasted pretty long so far. Just set the franchise record in scoring TDs. Must be doing something mentally well.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s the HC. He’s stressed his philosophies. He wants his D to not give up the big play as number one priority always. 

When it's negative...it's Siri...when it's positive it Hurts....you have zero credibility.    

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s lasted pretty long so far. Just set the franchise record in scoring TDs. Must be doing something mentally well.

You need therapy

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I believe the whole team does... I believe the QB is the one that has to change things...the little adjustments 

I believe our QB is a good runner.  His whole life he didn't have to play the chess match because his athletic ability allowed him to win the checkers match...one read and then just run.

I believe that is the part of the game that he needs to work on the most.  

I believe he made a lot of mistakes last year making reads and decisions.   

Everything aside...I believe you will never blame him for any negative thing that happens....not even give him a small percentage of the blame.

Idk what your fascination is with him.. but when it comes to looking at his play objectively...you can't do it.

See how this statement gone way overboard. Just not accurate. When we beat TB it was that third or fourth read to OZ on two very key plays that won the game last season. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s lasted pretty long so far. Just set the franchise record in scoring TDs. Must be doing something mentally well.

The mental part of the tush push... Hurts is a genius????    

The QB's job is to throw TD passes. Not run them in.    He is in the league because of his running.   He needs work on the passing game..the mental side in particular. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

See how this statement gone way overboard. Just not accurate. When we beat TB it was that third or fourth read to OZ on two very key plays that won the game last season. 

Yes....great play...  congrats he made ONE play.  My favorite play of his career...  a play where he was a professional QB.   He needs more of that.

When one play stands out...that's a problem!

Your statement is they are rushing six and we gave an empty backfield. You blame Hurts here. I’ll add the WR routes are long developing. Why is the playcall in the first place not prepared if it’s such an expected situation? We all know it’s coming yet it’s up to Hurts to adjust on the fly? Doesn’t even make any sense. To me it just shows how the coaches have no answer. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Your statement is they are rushing six and we gave an empty backfield. You blame Hurts here. I’ll add the WR routes are long developing. Why is the playcall in the first place not prepared if it’s such an expected situation? We all know it’s coming yet it’s up to Hurts to adjust on the fly? Doesn’t even make any sense. To me it just shows how the coaches have no answer. 

Yes .. because an easy adjustment... bring in a back or a TE ....you know, it's allowed.    There is no rule against the QB calling a protection audible.  

Idk maybe all that amateur ball you watch they don't do that....pro ball the QBs do that.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Yes....great play...  congrats he made ONE play.  My favorite play of his career...  a play where he was a professional QB.   He needs more of that.

Just said how it was more than one play…in that one game. Just a simpleton argument hating on Hurts. See I could deal with the actual issues with Hurts if I wasn’t dealing with this endless uneducated attacks on him. Same thing with the D. You keep complaining about a tree…when the problem is the forest.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 We all know it’s coming yet it’s up to Hurts to adjust on the fly? Doesn’t even make any sense. To me it just shows how the coaches have no answer. 

Did Manning or Brady adjust on the fly?  I mean , that's the QBs job....unless he isn't mentally equipped to play the position in the pros?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Yes .. because an easy adjustment... bring in a back or a TE ....you know, it's allowed.    There is no rule against the QB calling a protection audible.  

Idk maybe all that amateur ball you watch they don't do that....pro ball the QBs do that.

You can’t bring in a RB off the bench in an empty backfield. Beyond any QBs control.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Just said how it was more than one play…in that one game. Just a simpleton argument hating on Hurts. See I could deal with the actual issues with Hurts if I wasn’t dealing with this endless uneducated attacks on him. Same thing with the D. You keep complaining about a tree…when the problem is the forest.

Ok... let me ask you.... as a Hurts Stan.  

If you could control one aspect of his game to improve....his ability... just him...he himself and Hurts.... 

What would you snap your fingers and bamm there it is?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can’t bring in a RB off the bench in an empty backfield. Beyond any QBs control.

You can't bring the RB or TE that's in the slot or out wide to come in the backfield?

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Did Manning or Brady adjust on the fly?  I mean , that's the QBs job....unless he isn't mentally equipped to play the position in the pros?

I don’t even ever believe Hurts will be Manning, Brady or add in Brees in mentally diagnosing Ds. But yet…even those mental giants still were confused by Pro Ds at times. Just not a realistic expectation for Hurts. Really not a realistic expectation for anybody. Burrow maybe the closest to be capable. Yet he gets fooled plenty still even.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... let me ask you.... as a Hurts Stan.  

If you could control one aspect of his game to improve....his ability... just him...he himself and Hurts.... 

What would you snap your fingers and bamm there it is?

Turnovers. Protect the ball more. He can control doing that more.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can’t bring in a RB off the bench in an empty backfield. Beyond any QBs control.

Ok.... with Hurts..

Height

Arm strength 

Vision

Mental ability 

Running 

Which of these do you think needs improvement?   Are there other things you need to see him improve upon? 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t even ever believe Hurts will be Manning, Brady or add in Brees in mentally diagnosing Ds. 

We agree. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes .. because an easy adjustment... bring in a back or a TE ....you know, it's allowed.    There is no rule against the QB calling a protection audible.  

Idk maybe all that amateur ball you watch they don't do that....pro ball the QBs do that.

Hot routes. WR reading blitz along with the QB to break off long developing routes adjusting for the blitz. Kelce called blocking assignments. Are you suggesting Kelce was that terrible at calling the blocking?

Just now, joemas6 said:

We agree. 

But he can run....that's why there is nothing you say record or stat wise that he has accomplished on a significant basis...that doesn't involve running. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

We agree. 

Then start there. Can’t make him something he isn’t.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hot routes. WR reading blitz along with the QB to break off long developing routes adjusting for the blitz. Kelce called blocking assignments. Are you suggesting Kelce was that terrible at calling the blocking?

Kelce doesn't call a blocking assignment when they rush 6 vs the 5.   Forget Manning etc....Wentz and Foles were calling changes on the fly in protection etc.   That's basic stuff.

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