9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I would have traded up for Dickerson or Nelson.  An impact player can impact the game wherever he plays on either line. 

I hear ya, but we didn't trade up for Dickerson...and he was in the 2nd round.  Good Guards, in general, can be found in any round.  To give up a 2nd to move up and take a Guard would be a really bad use of resources.  An OT, sure.  But not OG.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You admitted Hurts changed the play vs Seattle where he went deep to AJ for the interception on the final play. 

That means Hurts knows he can audible. 

That means he knows he could call a hot route or adjust his protection when it's that obvious 6 on 5 situation.   It's not coaching... it's basic football.   

He needs to improve on his mental game.  Facts....no matter how you want to spin it.  

It should just happen. QB and WR should be reading ‘Hot.’ Think the play you are referring to that I brought up isn’t a great example. That was one play that Hurts and AJ went off script out of pure frustration with the playcalling. Things boiled to a head at that point where they both just tried to save us with Hero Ball.

2 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Can totally see this.  In fact, that exact trade is what I predicted in my final mock draft I posted on Tuesday.  But I have them taking Arnold instead of Fuaga.  

I'm not sure how I'd feel if they moved up to 12 and took Fuaga.  He's one of those types that seem to project better at G "but can play tackle in a pinch".  That said, I haven't researched him much.  If they trade up to 12 for him, it better be because he WILL be the future RT.  Trading up to 12 for a lifetime G would be a terrible waste of resources.

Arnold or Mitchell would be a much better use of those resources.  

Grabbing one of those two CB would be ideal.

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I would have traded up for Dickerson or Nelson.  An impact player can impact the game wherever he plays on either line. 

I was all about trying to get a hold of Nelson…had him ranked number one player in that class.

5 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I hear ya, but we didn't trade up for Dickerson...and he was in the 2nd round.  Good Guards, in general, can be found in any round.  To give up a 2nd to move up and take a Guard would be a really bad use of resources.  An OT, sure.  But not OG.

Could stay put and get Jackson Powers Johnson. He’s a stud C/G.

10 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I hear ya, but we didn't trade up for Dickerson...and he was in the 2nd round.  Good Guards, in general, can be found in any round.  To give up a 2nd to move up and take a Guard would be a really bad use of resources.  An OT, sure.  But not OG.

Would you trade up for Dickerson or any " good " OT.   I would rather trade up for the stud G. 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It should just happen. QB and WR should be reading ‘Hot.’ Think the play you are referring to that I brought up isn’t a great example. That was one play that Hurts and AJ went off script out of pure frustration with the playcalling. Things boiled to a head at that point where they both just tried to save us with Hero Ball.

Yes. . " off script" big boy football.    Go off the F#$%ing script...it's the NFL.   

That's basic football.   

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes. . " off script" big boy football.    Go off the F#$%ing script...it's the NFL.   

That's basic football.   

That’s disobeying and disrespecting the coaches.

The HC and OC are paid and in charge. They should have earned that right to playcall and have the QB as an extension of themselves running their O.

Frankly that play between Hurts and AJ ended our game. Just needed a first down there. Needed to live to fight another play. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s disobeying and disrespecting the coaches.

Lol... that's the job of the QB to audible out of a bad situation.   Wtf kind of QB do you want running the show.   A robot???  

You call a 6th blocker or a hot route...." that's disobeying the coach "???

Go watch the Eagles before Hurts...Foles and Wentz were calling these little adjustments almost every play. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Would you trade up for Dickerson or any " good " OT.   I would rather trade up for the stud G. 

Who is Dickerson?  I assumed you were talking about Landon.  

If we trade up for an OT, the idea is that he will be a very good player at a position where it's harder to find talent later in drafts.  Again, IOL you can find throughout the draft.  The best OTs are generally drafted in the top halves of Round 1.  

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The HC and OC are paid and in charge. They should have earned that right to playcall and have the QB as an extension of themselves running their O.

And then when it gets down to where the QB has to adjust a route or a protection based on what the situation is and the defense is showing....the QB needs to finalize the play. 

Just now, EaglesAddict said:

Who is Dickerson?  I assumed you were talking about Landon.  

If we trade up for an OT, the idea is that he will be a very good player at a position where it's harder to find talent later in drafts.  Again, IOL you can find throughout the draft.  The best OTs are generally drafted in the top halves of Round 1.  

Yes...the stud G we have. 

1 minute ago, EaglesAddict said:

Who is Dickerson?  I assumed you were talking about Landon.  

If we trade up for an OT, the idea is that he will be a very good player at a position where it's harder to find talent later in drafts.  Again, IOL you can find throughout the draft.  The best OTs are generally drafted in the top halves of Round 1.  

Again...do you want to find any interior OL...or do you want the stud.

If your argument is the guy you are hearing rumors about ...isn't a stud, then it's a different argument.  

But I will say...if that guy isn't a stud... I doubt we trade up for him if he is just going to be a  " good" G.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly that play between Hurts and AJ ended our game. Just needed a first down there. Needed to live to fight another play. 

With Elliott we weren’t that far from field goal range to tie it.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lol... that's the job of the QB to audible out of a bad situation.   Wtf kind of QB do you want running the show.   A robot???  

You call a 6th blocker or a hot route...." that's disobeying the coach "???

Go watch the Eagles before Hurts...Foles and Wentz were calling these little adjustments almost every play. 

That’s coaching though right? Coach explains the expectation of with this playcalled situation against this D coach wants you to adjust in this way…with an audible or Hot Route. QB and WR should be understanding of the adjustment based on what the expectation was designated from the coach. 

What do coaches teach in the classroom in your mind?

With the 22nd pick I’m hearing we could trade up….but there is a chance we could trade back…a few rumored sources also have us staying at 22. So that’s exactly what we’ll do with the first pick of the 2024 draft.

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly that play between Hurts and AJ ended our game. Just needed a first down there. Needed to live to fight another play. 

The audible was great ... the problem was the QB had tunnel vision.   The deep route adjustment by AJ opened up the whole middle of the field for the dump off pass to Gainwell.   Great call there pre snap... poor decision on where to throw the ball.

The QB needs to work on basic QB stuff... why is it difficult to understand?    He made an audible...the right one... just didn't see or chose to throw to the wrong guy.  Either way a mental issue...but he can run though...most combined this or that. 

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s coaching though right? Coach explains the expectation of with this playcalled situation against this D coach wants you to adjust in this way…with an audible or Hot Route. QB and WR should be understanding of the adjustment based on what the expectation was designated from the coach. 

Do you need the coach to show Hurts how to tie his shoe too? 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The audible was great ... the problem was the QB had tunnel vision.   The deep route adjustment by AJ opened up the whole middle of the field for the dump off pass to Gainwell.   Great call there pre snap... poor decision on where to throw the ball.

The QB needs to work on basic QB stuff... why is it difficult to understand?    He made an audible...the right one... just didn't see or chose to throw to the wrong guy.  Either way a mental issue...but he can run though...most combined this or that. 

It wasn’t an audible so much. He and AJ just decided in that situation to chuck it deep to AJ. There was no second read on that. You’re missing the whole thing.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What do coaches teach in the classroom in your mind?

Apparently they need to teach Hurts stuff that high school QBs already do.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Do you need the coach to show Hurts how to tie his shoe too? 

What is it you believe a coach does?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It wasn’t an audible so much. He and AJ just decided in that situation to chuck it deep to AJ. There was no second read on that. You’re missing the whole thing.

Again...  Hurts decided... the QB decides.  Still even on this play you can't bring yourself to blame Hurts...it has to always be someone else... pathetic.