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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What is it you believe a coach does?

Wouldn’t he go through expectations and adjustments expected?

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Just now, joemas6 said:

Again...  Hurts decided... the QB decides.  Still even on this play you can't bring yourself to blame Hurts...it has to always be someone else... pathetic.  

I’ve blamed Hurts the whole time on this play. Wasn’t what was needed right there. You could just feel AJ and the teams frustrations with the playcalling come through in this desperation moment. Everything came to a head in this last ditch moment to basically save our season.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What is it you believe a coach does?

Shouldn't have to teach junior high level stuff.   I doubt any system in the NFL doesn't allow the QB to audible or tweak a minor change on any given play after reading the defense.   

You are making this simple thing very complicated...basically telling me that you think Hurts football IQ is very low.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve blamed Hurts the whole time on this play. Wasn’t what was needed right there. You could just feel AJ and the teams frustrations with the playcalling come through in this desperation moment. Everything came to a head in this last ditch moment to basically save our season.

Nah.  Hurts and this guy.. this guy and Hurts. 

Hurts is the QB... he.adjusted a route...that's perfectly fine.  The WR absolutely has to be aware of the adjustment.  Absolutely fine too.

But the QB reads the field and makes the decision where to throw.    That's all the QB.   That's your boy's mistake.  Nobody else. 

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The audible was great ... the problem was the QB had tunnel vision.   The deep route adjustment by AJ opened up the whole middle of the field for the dump off pass to Gainwell.   Great call there pre snap... poor decision on where to throw the ball.

The QB needs to work on basic QB stuff... why is it difficult to understand?    He made an audible...the right one... just didn't see or chose to throw to the wrong guy.  Either way a mental issue...but he can run though...most combined this or that. 

The play change was one option chick it to AJ to save our season. What are you not getting here? There was no third fourth and fifth options. Chuck it up to our best player to come down with to bring our O out of the funk that had smothered us. That was the playcall change Hurts and AJ came up with it on the fly in that moment. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve blamed Hurts the whole time on this play. Wasn’t what was needed right there. You could just feel AJ and the teams frustrations with the playcalling come through in this desperation moment. Everything came to a head in this last ditch moment to basically save our season.

Well...continue to stick your head in the ground and ignore all the reports about people being upset with Hurts...just blame the coaching 💯.    Do your bro...much respect ...at least you are dying on that hill.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Shouldn't have to teach junior high level stuff.   I doubt any system in the NFL doesn't allow the QB to audible or tweak a minor change on any given play after reading the defense.   

You are making this simple thing very complicated...basically telling me that you think Hurts football IQ is very low.

It is simple basic stuff. In the classroom coach goes over the different scenarios and what changes or adjustments he wants to make the situation successful. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The play change was one option chick it to AJ to save our season. What are you not getting here? There was no third fourth and fifth options. Chuck it up to our best player to come down with to bring our O out of the funk that had smothered us. That was the playcall change Hurts and AJ came up with it on the fly in that moment. 

That was a route change...for one of the 5 targets.   That's not am entire play call change.  Do you know what the other 4 targets did differently on that play after the audible was made...by HURTS alone?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Well...continue to stick your head in the ground and ignore all the reports about people being upset with Hurts...just blame the coaching 💯.    Do your bro...much respect ...at least you are dying on that hill.

So show me links to these so I can understand then

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It is simple basic stuff. In the classroom coach goes over the different scenarios and what changes or adjustments he wants to make the situation successful. 

So your QB is too stupid to adjust on the field?  He needs hours of classroom sessions to understand they are sending an extra guy,bring a 6th man into protection??  Really?

Again...I keep coming back to where you have a very low opinion of your QB's mental ability. 

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Well...continue to stick your head in the ground and ignore all the reports about people being upset with Hurts...just blame the coaching 💯.    Do your bro...much respect ...at least you are dying on that hill.

I scour all kinds of sources for Eagles news. I haven’t come across any of this.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So show me links to these so I can understand then

What did you say to BG....do your research.   You show nobody on here that respect...you will get same in return from me.

Also... not everything needs to be " a link" 

Just now, joemas6 said:

So your QB is too stupid to adjust on the field?  He needs hours of classroom sessions to understand they are sending an extra guy,bring a 6th man into protection??  Really?

Again...I keep coming back to where you have a very low opinion of your QB's mental ability. 

So there is no version you understand or can see coaching playing any role with this? You don’t see the classroom work with a coach expressing his expectation and answers to adjust to any of these situations? What is it the coach does in your mind? 

That’s the main thing I see that should be occurring in the classroom work from coaches. They express what they wish to happen in all these various situations. A Qb should just be an extension of the coach really. 

That’s not even bringing up the obvious of how the coaches didn’t have the answers because we all knew what was coming and yet he still was calling those plays. The plays being terrible to counter the D we all knew would be facing.

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3 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Can totally see this.  In fact, that exact trade is what I predicted in my final mock draft I posted on Tuesday.  But I have them taking Arnold instead of Fuaga.  

I'm not sure how I'd feel if they moved up to 12 and took Fuaga.  He's one of those types that seem to project better at G "but can play tackle in a pinch".  That said, I haven't researched him much.  If they trade up to 12 for him, it better be because he WILL be the future RT.  Trading up to 12 for a lifetime G would be a terrible waste of resources.

Arnold or Mitchell would be a much better use of those resources.  

Why can't he replace Lane....in time and be the RG in the MEANtime? It's like getting 2 players with 1 pick

The playcalling was long developing routes or screen pass. That’s pretty much it.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I scour all kinds of sources for Eagles news. I haven’t come across any of this.

Keep scouring 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The playcalling was long developing routes or screen pass. That’s pretty much it.

With zero tweak from the mental midget you say plays QB. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Keep scouring 

Provide links …just that easy if everybody on the team is complaining about our QB1

Just now, joemas6 said:

Yes...the stud G we have. 

Ok, you phrased the question "would you", as in, present tense, lol.  And no, I would not have traded up for him during the draft that we obtained him.

Just now, joemas6 said:

With zero tweak from the mental midget you say plays QB. 

At that point it isn’t little tweaks…Hurts needed to completely block the doors from coaches and cease control as the OC and HC. Just execute the job of QB on the side.

1 minute ago, EaglesAddict said:

Ok, you phrased the question "would you", as in, present tense, lol.  And no, I would not have traded up for him during the draft that we obtained him.

Hahahaha…I’m good also

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

With zero tweak from the mental midget you say plays QB. 

You just so bent on not holding coaching, gameplanning and playcalling accountable. It’s all up to QB1 to automatically constantly just overcome all these every play every game. Gotcha!

But possibly this season we’ll see Hurts just become the HC and OC if things don’t improve from the coaching side of things. Of course then you’ll complain about that. But there was very clear frustration built up over the coaching gameplans and playcalling. That’s why they fired the OC. Didn’t fire the HC however..,so might be the only course of action if Moore can’t deliver something competent.

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