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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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For me the proper complaint is the whole Siri D philosophy….which every opponent realizes. Exactly what AR had Mahomes destroy us with. It wasn’t Mahomes cannon arm…it was quick underneath accurate throws…followed up by YAC. Cost us the SB. Costs us on shorter yardage third down conversions. 

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Frankly was a big adjustment DCs made against our own O. Hurts was just killing it with the big gain plays. Teams adapted. Our coaches never adapted. You blame Hurts…but he would have needed to override and ignore our HC and OC to do what was needed.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

There was the motivation to change 

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So now after I’ve explained all this to you what do you want to change in this picture? Why?

57 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you wish to change the specification of your statements to Hurts post snapping reads only? 

Not at all....15 seconds as they break the huddle... that's Hurts time to make his reads.    That’s his weakness outside of RPO.   Making the little adjustments...and playing big boy QB.  

Steichen was very underrated in his job ...keeping Hurts out of the difficult mental situations.   Now the league had time to study it... at some point Hurts himself is going to mentally have to step up.   For his growth....he would be better playing Tampa 10 times per season. As they seem to challenge him mentally.  Watch both playoff games.. they cut him off running to his right and he looked like deer in the headlights. 

We have empty backfield...they rush 6 every time.   Hurts has to make the protection adjustment...as you said, the ear piece is irrelevant at that point...QB needs to make the call.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

OC sees the D alignment and can communicate it to the QB. That’s if they get the playcall in soon enough. Late playcall limits everything. We’ve had some issues with this. If the play didn’t get in quickly the QB didn’t have much time to assess the D situation before the snap. It very much effects the whole play.

Again... when they break the huddle they don't do it with much more than 15 seconds... the defense knows the play clock... they make changes after the OC can communicate.   The QB needs to play big boy ball...without the training wheels.    Hurts can run... he can throw accurate short yardage.... he struggles mentally when it's not RPO or simple reads. 

58 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The out route that you aren’t seeing is covered by the slot defender not the outside CB. Once you understand this you might think differently about the whole thing.

The slot defender is superman?   Just can move that much faster and make his way to the sideline to cover the out...

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32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So now after I’ve explained all this to you what do you want to change in this picture? Why?

Dude... you live in your own world.  

The soft coverage here is brutal.  Pitch and catch.   I'm changing the coach,  which happened.   It's 3rd and 4 here, you can't give up 8 yards because you are afraid of them getting 40.   

You bump...you force them to play football... if you get bear, who cares.   The alternative is them constantly having the ball.  

What changed on the outside from the year before?  You can play plenty of zone with the CB up on the WR to start the play.

Just brutal.

58 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For me the proper complaint is the whole Siri D philosophy….which every opponent realizes. Exactly what AR had Mahomes destroy us with. It wasn’t Mahomes cannon arm…it was quick underneath accurate throws…followed up by YAC. Cost us the SB. Costs us on shorter yardage third down conversions. 

Now it's the " Siri" D philosophy.   

Ham = everything wrong with the team is the coach that got them to the playoffs all 3 years and the Superbowl. 

Everything right about the team is Hurts?  Hurts got AJ to come here.. lol. 

You better wake up... in about 3 years reality is going to set in. 

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dude... you live in your own world.  

The soft coverage here is brutal.  Pitch and catch.   I'm changing the coach,  which happened.   It's 3rd and 4 here, you can't give up 8 yards because you are afraid of them getting 40.   

You bump...you force them to play football... if you get bear, who cares.   The alternative is them constantly having the ball.  

What changed on the outside from the year before?  You can play plenty of zone with the CB up on the WR to start the play.

Just brutal.

Bump and run and playing aggressive D I agree with. Mixing it up even. But this isn’t Siri D. He stresses the D not giving up the big play. How often did we play Bump and Run under Siri? We didn’t really change. Same stuff AR had Mahomes do to us in the SB.

It’s not bump and run it’s Cover 3. So the complaint starts with HC fundamental philosophy. Then it comes to playcall. Then it comes to GM that doesn’t bring in top CB. Gotta have all three of those things be different to correct a 3rd and 4 coverage.

So list off whom you consider to be superior defensive minds in football over Todd Bowles.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So list off whom you consider to be superior defensive minds in football over Todd Bowles.

Is he number one? Quite possibly.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Now it's the " Siri" D philosophy.   

Ham = everything wrong with the team is the coach that got them to the playoffs all 3 years and the Superbowl. 

Everything right about the team is Hurts?  Hurts got AJ to come here.. lol. 

You better wake up... in about 3 years reality is going to set in. 

You aren’t seeing how the coaching cost us the SB. Pedey and Schwartz would have beat the Chiefs…probably wouldn’t have been that close of a matchup.

22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The slot defender is superman?   Just can move that much faster and make his way to the sideline to cover the out...

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Read the Cover 3 schematics. Absolutely his job

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

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Do you read this and see outside CB has the short out route responsibility? 

It’s like you only think of D being played in Man coverage or something

As for Hurts he needs to learn a new O …once again. Like he has every season but once of his college and pro career. That takes time. You are clearly going to be very disappointed and blame him very heavily right off the bat this season. 

No Mas, do you believe WR make reads and adjustments?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m hopeful we are very much in position to pick up these players that can put us over the top.

By the way…I’m calling this now…crucial piece to a championship roster puzzle this season. Just a matter of whether we are all in and will spend the money. Which seems like a no brainer because we always spend the money.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Bump and run and playing aggressive D I agree with. Mixing it up even. But this isn’t Siri D. He stresses the D not giving up the big play. How often did we play Bump and Run under Siri? We didn’t really change. Same stuff AR had Mahomes do to us in the SB.

Siri is a D guy now?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s not bump and run it’s Cover 3. So the complaint starts with HC fundamental philosophy. Then it comes to playcall. Then it comes to GM that doesn’t bring in top CB. Gotta have all three of those things be different to correct a 3rd and 4 coverage.

You don't have to Bump and run....3rd and 4 you can't be 10 yards off and then back pedal.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So list off whom you consider to be superior defensive minds in football over Todd Bowles.

Dude... your QB us not there in the mental part of the game. He needs to change that...or he won't last long in the league.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You don't have to Bump and run....3rd and 4 you can't be 10 yards off and then back pedal.

"You bump...you force them to play football... if you get bear, who cares.   The alternative is them constantly having the ball.  " This is your quote in response. Your screenshot the outside CB is 6 yards off backpedaling with over coverage.

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