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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Fuega is a RT,one that could use more snap counts. The way to get him more snap counts is to start him at RG(which we need anyway since that position could be in flux). That's basically 2 players with 1 pick is all I am saying. I don't believe we had Fuega in for a visit however, and as I just posted odds are on the guys we had in 

I think it's the kid from Alabama 

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

And then you have your future studs across the line....why is that a bad thing?  Either way you need 2 players.   Why not get 2 studs? 

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I think it's the kid from Alabama 

IDK what experience he has a G or if he played there at all. Fuega has played both and there are nuances.

2 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

In a draft many claim is stacked with the most G/T prospects 

2 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

Is there a stud RG at 22?    And again.. I don't think we would trade up for just an ok OT or ok G.   

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3 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

You could probably get Latham and Beebe without moving. Then you have Lanes replacement and your starting RG. The again you'd be wasting a 1 pick on a player who won't play so which is the waste of resources?

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Is there a stud RG at 22?    And again.. I don't think we would trade up for just an ok OT or ok G.   

Barton is the best G(Duke) IMO(at 22),but we also had Beebe in. Beebe would be a round 2 but IMO is fully capable of handling the RG duties

I saw.. trade up with Seattle.    Then trading the 16th pick plus 53 to Denver... Denver gives those picks to NE for pick 3 to take their QB... we get Surtain. 

There are reports we are talking with Denver.. I highly doubt it's simply to move up to 12 to take an ok or good OL.

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So just for me,if I move up for an OT,it should be a OT who can play G until Lane retires since it would cost me 2 picks to get him,he should cover those 2 positions to be of value

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Barton is the best G(Duke) IMO(at 22),but we also had Beebe in. Beebe would be a round 2 but IMO is fully capable of handling the RG duties

Barton isn’t a stud. He’s very versatile. High floor player that doesn’t have as high a ceiling is how most describe him,

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Barton is the best G(Duke) IMO(at 22),but we also had Beebe in. Beebe would be a round 2 but IMO is fully capable of handling the RG duties

Does Barton last...Does the kid from Oregon last...things will be different from the  " mocks"

Washington’s Fatanua is that college T that projects to be the stud G with a possible T versatility. That’s how I’ve seen it. Projected to be around pick 22.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Does Barton last...Does the kid from Oregon last...things will be different from the  " mocks"

Barton is projected at C we could trade back to get. Oregon prospect has consistently been ranked very high. 

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5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Barton isn’t a stud. He’s very versatile. High floor player that doesn’t have as high a ceiling is how most describe him,

He's the #1G in a stacked class,so describe him how you want and I will describe him how i want

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Barton is projected at C we could trade back to get. Oregon prospect has consistently been ranked very high. 

I saw both guys going before 22 ... it is what it is...we won't know until it happens. 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

He's the #1G in a stacked class,so describe him how you want and I will describe him how i want

I’ve seen Fatanua from Washington as the number one G.

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26 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Does Barton last...Does the kid from Oregon last...things will be different from the  " mocks"

We seem to like Fashanu as well

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve seen Fatanua from Washington as the number one G.

Except he is an OT

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6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Barton is projected at C we could trade back to get. Oregon prospect has consistently been ranked very high. 

Aren't/weren't our G's drafted as C'S? What's wrong with a starting G who can play C if needed? Barton can play either so what's the issue????

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C/G are many times interchangeable so I'm not too worried about labels

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12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I saw both guys going before 22 ... it is what it is...we won't know until it happens. 

I don't think we do anything until the Jets take Bowers and we see who is left. The Jets could shock us and pass him by(they would be foolish but then again we're talking the Jets here LOL)

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/inside-the-eagles-30-visits-why-it-matters-in-nfl-draft/ar-AA1nBgus  We select 67% of our players from this list. Howie has laid contingency plans for getting O line later if we need to do that. I was happy to see the visit from Ainias Smith. He is my slot guy that I have had slotted to us since time began. We had Brenden Rice in,but it's name recognition,he's nowhere as good as dad lol 

Howard Eskin says we're working on a new contract for AJ

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2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/inside-the-eagles-30-visits-why-it-matters-in-nfl-draft/ar-AA1nBgus  We select 67% of our players from this list. Howie has laid contingency plans for getting O line later if we need to do that. I was happy to see the visit from Ainias Smith. He is my slot guy that I have had slotted to us since time began. We had Brenden Rice in,but it's name recognition,he's nowhere as good as dad lol 

I don't see Fuega on here. IMO he would be the perfect 2 fer if we move up,but odds are if he's not on this list he is out of the picture. I like that Mahogany kid also if we have to choose later

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Boston College’s Christian Mahogany; Oklahoma’s Tyler Guyton; Michigan’s Zak Zinter; TCU’s Brandon Coleman; Washington’s Troy Fautanu; Notre Dame’s Blake Fisher; Kansas State’s Cooper Beebe; Washington’s Roger Rosengarten    If it's O line first,then it;s one of these. They DID look alot at "pure" Guards and OT's that could be G's only. None of these are really top OT's except maybe Fautanu. And so this makes me wonder if they go O line first at all. Alot of these visits are round 2 guys yet we had the top DB prospects in,so maybe Howie shocks us and breaks history. If there was any draft to do it,this is the one

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