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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Why can't bark be a pro bowler now with an better O line?

 

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why can't bark be a pro bowler now with an better O line?

 

RG still bothers me,I can't lie about that

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The schemes last year didn't even exist LOL ANY scheme is better than the zero we had last year. And now teams have NO IDEA what we come out with

There is some positive in any unknowns…much less how predictable we were. But everybody in the league has studied Fangio very heavily. He has a large track record that has been documented. Still isn’t what he creates from our personnel….so will be different some from his past. But guys need to learn and get on the same pages with all the different plays called…versus the opponents corresponding playcalls. Takes time. Just does. Year two, three …so on…be much further developed.

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oline I see downgraded though. Saquan is an improvement over Swift…but Swift was a Pro Bowler last season. Parris, Ainias and Saquan …if we are being realistic…have concerns on the durability front. Can AJ and DeVonta be as durable as they were last season? Fairly large ask. But 7th to 5th isn’t a huge move upward even on the optimistic point of view.

Hurts was kind of handcuffed with crap play calls why wouldn't AJ and Smith perform better with the handcuffs off? Add Goedert being used correctly also

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts was kind of handcuffed with crap play calls why wouldn't AJ and Smith perform better with the handcuffs off? Add Goedert being used correctly also

Hurts needs to make the reads and NOT JUST ONE

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Hurts will have multiple weapons, same or better than last year. He could have multiple guys open too and he needs to make the reads. He won't have bubble screens to count on nor the tush push. It's on him as he constantly states . Now it's time to stop saying it and deliver 

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It's great to have this imagination... but you are making things way too complicated.  The kickers now will absolutely look to kick the ball and land it near the goal line, but just short of it.  Not anywhere close to hitting the blockers, even if you give them tennis rackets to hold up. 

It’s all imagination because we haven’t seen it happen. But we are just spitballing ideas here. But I’m curious where you think the returners will be standing? In my mind the hardest kick to field would be the quirky hard linedrive kick that lands before the returner can catch it. Kicking into the endzone is penalized also. So I was clearly thinking of a line drive kick landing in front of the returner…instead of him catching it….being much more ideal.

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Time for bed I'm out

32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So if we're "neck and neck" with GB we lose automatically???

I pointed to their experience with same coaching giving them the nod week one. But I probably lean towards just flat out having them as the team in front of us all together.

32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We snuffed some good RB's last year why would that be worse now?

Arizona ran all over us..again and again and again…all day.

35 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why would the top LB matter more than the top CB we got in?

For run D? Seems obvious.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO the blockers aren't going to tackle the returner? 

The blockers are going to …ughh…block…obviously…for the returner.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Who makes the tackle the kicker?

Anybody that can avoid/disengage from the blockers, have good angle of pursuit and tackle well. The exact same thing I’ve been saying since the beggining.

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah,no one will even trade a 7th for him LOL

Not to take on his money. Whole league knows we are cutting him also.

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK that would be similar to a volleyball spike serve,except with your foot. Very difficult

Not that extreme…but believe you’re understanding my point to counter this technique being the blockers raising their hands high….to make it just that more difficult.

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

From where is this so called angle of attack coming from on a kick off with guys spread out across a line? You also said they are "blockers" So who makes the tackle?

Blockers…block for the returner…c’mon man. Blockers block. Kicking team tackles. You’re going backwards.

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You asked if I thought we were better 5th is better than 7th?

And I can accept your answer on this

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RG still bothers me,I can't lie about that

What about depth?

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts was kind of handcuffed with crap play calls why wouldn't AJ and Smith perform better with the handcuffs off? Add Goedert being used correctly also

AJ and DeVonta had some career season stuff. AJ broke the record with consecutive sick games. I hope they both do perform better. But no denying that’s a tall ask. It’s possible…but it’s also possible one gets injured also. AJ went for 1,456 yards. That’s nothing to sneeze at. I do believe he can top that….would be a huge season to do so though. Completely the optimistic viewpoint for it to happen.

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts will have multiple weapons, same or better than last year. He could have multiple guys open too and he needs to make the reads. He won't have bubble screens to count on nor the tush push. It's on him as he constantly states . Now it's time to stop saying it and deliver 

Why won’t he have screens and The Brotherly Shove? I’m completely expecting us to utilize these this season.

On these returns the rules against creating a wedge would seem to be much more difficult to avoid. The whole situation would seemingly be bunching up the players so much more.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

On these returns the rules against creating a wedge would seem to be much more difficult to avoid. The whole situation would seemingly be bunching up the players so much more.

A wedge is the blockers holding hands....doesn't really seem difficult to avoid...for 2 reasons 

1. The returner will catch the ball around the 5 or so...the blockers will be 30 yards in front of them and be short handed 9 vs 10.  It's not really bunched like the old school kicks where the blockers could run back and form a wedge.  

Idk it seems you are missing the concepts of the positioning of these guys.  They aren't going to be raising their hands to block a kickoff and they are 5 yards away from the kicking team who is going to move first. That's about 2 or 3 strides.  It's basically going to be a spread out OL type of blocking with the ball carrier starting deeper with the ball.

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3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

A wedge is the blockers holding hands....doesn't really seem difficult to avoid...for 2 reasons 

1. The returner will catch the ball around the 5 or so...the blockers will be 30 yards in front of them and be short handed 9 vs 10.  It's not really bunched like the old school kicks where the blockers could run back and form a wedge.  

Idk it seems you are missing the concepts of the positioning of these guys.  They aren't going to be raising their hands to block a kickoff and they are 5 yards away from the kicking team who is going to move first. That's about 2 or 3 strides.  It's basically going to be a spread out OL type of blocking with the ball carrier starting deeper with the ball.

A "wedge block” is not permitted at any time. A wedge block is defined as two or more players intentionally aligning shoulder-to-shoulder within two yards of each other, and who move forward together in an attempt to block for the runner.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A "wedge block” is not permitted at any time. A wedge block is defined as two or more players intentionally aligning shoulder-to-shoulder within two yards of each other, and who move forward together in an attempt to block for the runner.

It’s a little tricky…but I guess they can’t really call a penalty for this the way they are aligned.

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