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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pretty similar aspects to playing defense in many ways. Defenders always practice angle of pursuit. That I did when I started playing the game as a small child. Always a factor. It’s not ten yards either to make the tackle…it’s more.

Well playing defense you have 40 yards plus to set that up,with 10 not so much. On the kick off they are 10 yards apart as I see it

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3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

With the talent we have 10 wins would be a disgusting failure. Is that as high a bar as you have?

Are we a better team than last year or the year before? I really have doubts there. I see us as rebuilding with youth and new schemes. Main uptick should revolve around coordinators.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You know here is no parade before we play 1 game? WOW what a defeatist attitude. I'm expect more. If the rooks come through and last years rooks step up you don't think this is one of the best rosters in the NFL?

They have us at 11th…

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

They have us at 11th…

Are we above or below the Packers? Rams? 

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are we a better team than last year or the year before? I really have doubts there. I see us as rebuilding with youth and new schemes. Main uptick should revolve around coordinators.

So having more than the 8 plays we ran last year,with better players all around than last year means we should have a worse record? I mean barring another collapse?

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They have us at 11th…

Who are "they"? And why should I believe them?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well playing defense you have 40 yards plus to set that up,with 10 not so much

I don’t see how either of these apply. D you don’t get 40 yards…and it’s more than 10 on these KOs. Angle of pursuit and finishing/completing the tackle are very crucial skills any KO coverage player will need. Oh…and the avoidance and disengaging from blocks.

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are we above or below the Packers? Rams? 

Yes we already know you have given us 2 losses there LOL.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t see how either of these apply. D you don’t get 40 yards…and it’s more than 10 on these KOs. Angle of pursuit and finishing/completing the tackle are very crucial skills any KO coverage player will need. Oh…and the avoidance and disengaging from blocks.

The blockers for each team are ten yards apart(see the damn map they laid out)

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t see how either of these apply. D you don’t get 40 yards…and it’s more than 10 on these KOs. Angle of pursuit and finishing/completing the tackle are very crucial skills any KO coverage player will need. Oh…and the avoidance and disengaging from blocks.

SO your safeties don't have more than 10 yards to get angles of attack? Really?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Who are "they"? And why should I believe them?

That’s just the big media I quoted a couple weeks back. It’s all subjective. That’s why I ask are we above or below the Packers? And so on. Seems like you feel much stronger about our teams roster. Do you believe we have assembled the most talented team? I’m leaning pretty closely to that big media ranking. A 10 win team…was thinking slightly higher than 11th maybe.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s just the big media I quoted a couple weeks back. It’s all subjective. That’s why I ask are we above or below the Packers? And so on. Seems like you feel much stronger about our teams roster. Do you believe we have assembled the most talented team? I’m leaning pretty closely to that big media ranking. A 10 win team…was thinking slightly higher than 11th maybe.

Well,I'm shooting for 12 wins. If Hurts steps up see no reason we can't do that. Plus we have the STUD RB we lacked for many years with 2 of the top WR's and now a slot option we didn;t have before. AND if the new coaches can avoid misusing Goedert he should also have a stellar year

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes we already know you have given us 2 losses there LOL.

Well it’s more talking about ranking each team’s roster and coaching league wide in comparison. I just asked you what your opinion was. Those two teams I believe remembering were the close question marks in the discussion amongst NFC teams in particular….in the big media I quoted ranking…not mine. So you are pointing at me…when it wasn’t my opinion.

I just asked your opinion…is all…instead of you lashing out at me over somebody else opinion. But I have no problem sharing my own opinions also.

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And if this defense is WORSE than last years I would be quite AMAZE$D

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Well it’s more talking about ranking each team’s roster and coaching league wide in comparison. I just asked you what your opinion was. Those two teams I believe remembering were the close question marks in the discussion amongst NFC teams in particular….in the big media I quoted ranking…not mine. So you are pointing at me…when it wasn’t my opinion.

I just asked your opinion…is all…instead of you lashing out at me over somebody else opinion. But I have no problem sharing my own opinions also.

I'm just wondering how you can view this team as anywhere worse than last years

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes we already know you have given us 2 losses there LOL.

You actually are wrong. I was thinking we should be considered ahead of the Rams. 

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm just wondering how you can view this team as anywhere worse than last years

You, of course are entitled to your opinion. I'm only trying to discern why you feel that way

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You actually are wrong. I was thinking we should be considered ahead of the Rams. 

Me too,but you think GB is ahead of the Rams also? I would count those 2 as about the same. GB has a decent secondary but their run D is average at best and we have Bark that can chew them a new one

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I would just LOVE to see rook DeJean on Watson. That would be a terrific matchup since DeJean has the size to offset his 

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So having more than the 8 plays we ran last year,with better players all around than last year means we should have a worse record? I mean barring another collapse?

Do we have better players all around? Not so sure. Was thinking we aren’t as good. We lost big time irreplaceable key players. I see it as we moved on three talented very experienced players being Kelce, Cox and Reddick in particular. In my view it’s easy to assess that as being a downgrade this season. The optimistic positive view in this for me is we got younger players. Got these guys in to learn this new scheme and grow from….for the future.

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I would just LOVE to see rook DeJean on Watson. That would be a terrific matchup since DeJean has the size to offset his 

Will be "interesting" to see who gets the start in Brazil

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The blockers for each team are ten yards apart(see the damn map they laid out)

That’s just considering avoiding the blockers. I’m discussing bringing down the returner. It involves avoiding blockers…but not considering the whole job That’s the disconnect in that discussion.

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The blockers for each team are ten yards apart(see the damn map they laid out)

Five yards apart for most of them actually…you probably need to look into whatever map laid out you viewed more closely.

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO your safeties don't have more than 10 yards to get angles of attack? Really?

It’s not 40 that you said most of the time

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Do we have better players all around? Not so sure. Was thinking we aren’t as good. We lost big time irreplaceable key players. I see it as we moved on three talented very experienced players being Kelce, Cox and Reddick in particular. In my view it’s easy to assess that as being a downgrade this season. The optimistic positive view in this for me is we got younger players. Got these guys in to learn this new scheme and grow from….for the future.

CJG is back( not here last year) Huff is good and a vet on the edges. From all accounts I hear Jurgens is find at C and is leading the room as he should and what he may lack in experience he can make up in "youthful exhuberance" so the only question for me is RG. Smith has another year under him experience wise and I keep saying(and will say it again) if Hurts can STEP UP we will be more than fine. Mitchell seems like a possible shut down CB that we didn't have last year. bark is better that Swift. So if we fail it's due to Hurts as I more than EXPECT better play calling from BOTH OC's

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