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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:
  • At least 7 players with foot on the B35 yard line (restraining line) with alignment requirements (outside numbers, numbers to hashes, and inside hashes)
  • All kicking team players other than the kicker will line up with one foot on the receiving team’s B40 yard line

Lined up on the 50 vs the 35,that is 15 yards. After it is touched the impact will happen in 10 yards and you are NOT getting an angle of attack in 10 yards

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lined up on the 50 vs the 35,that is 15 yards. After it is touched the impact will happen in 10 yards and you are NOT getting an angle of attack in 10 yards

Maybe it's the wrong map LOL IDK

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

35 to 45 is not 10 yards?

40 to 35…five yards….which still has absolutely very little to do with angle of pursuit to tackle the returner.

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No matter the POINT is there is NOT enough distance to get an angle of attack,there is just NOT

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But I am assuming any impact occurs in 10 yards

With the return man?

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

40 to 35…five yards….which still has absolutely very little to do with angle of pursuit to tackle the returner.

Better yet there IS NO angle of attack in 5 yards NONE

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

With the return man?

I'm assuming after the catch he moves forward??

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm assuming after the catch he moves forward??

Into the mess where the other players come together in 1o yards? Or 5 or whatever

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So no matter where the returner goes the players that are far away and can have an angle of attack cannot get there in time to make a difference unless they run 2 second 40's Once they DO get there the only play is a block in the back because they are already behind the returner get it?

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK that right side still bothers me,but the secondary is WAY better than last year

Q, Maddox and Slay. Slay I see as just another year  older and a downgrade from last season. Though he was injured to finish the year. Maddox pretty much the same. Have to figure Q takes some time learning the ropes…normal rookie stuff. But Q really can’t perform worse than Bradberry did last season.

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That is why the rules are there about the guys being spread out all across the line

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

5 yards is substantial enough. It’s basically like Oline getting at off ball LBs to block them…more like.

not really, the kicking team is going to move first as they actually can physically see he catch... they will be attacking the blockers

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Q, Maddox and Slay. Slay I see as just another year  older and a downgrade from last season. Though he was injured to finish the year. Maddox pretty much the same. Have to figure Q takes some time learning the ropes…normal rookie stuff. But Q really can’t perform worse than Bradberry did last season.

Agreed,and maybe Dejean takes over(rook mistakes and all) if Slay can't do the job. IDK why we kept Bradberry. He really was bad

My point about angle of pursuit….Ceedy Duce is terrible at it. He makes some interceptions. But not a quality tackler.

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My point about angle of pursuit….Ceedy Duce is terrible at it. He makes some interceptions. But not a quality tackler.

Right you are missing my point about the angle of attack difference on D as opposed to kick offs. The only guys that would have an angle of attack on the returner are maybe the 4 closest ones and even then that is' only 5-8 yards so not alot to work with there as opposed to having 30-40 yards to angle with

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm looking at the overall big picture. We can argue about position to position and hopefully Hurts won't be a bonehead and he won't be tied down with CRAP play calls

It was the 7th ranked O last season. Are the expectations for you it will be number 1? Or what here? The O won several games in the last minutes last season. But I do think we can hopefully have expectations of less turnovers as an improvement source.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whats the difference if the kick goes straight into a blockers stomach? If the blocker doesn’t move…in fact he can’t move…”to avoid touching.”

I don't think you are getting the fact of where the blockers are positioned... the kick will still go over them.  They are exactly half way of where the ball is looking to get kicked, the exact apex of the kick.  It's a football... the kickers need to elevate the ball ... you tell me where you have seen a ball travel 60 yards without going over 10 feet in the air?  It's not a soccer ball, you need elevation to kick it 60 yards.   The regular squib kick won't work here.  They need to land the ball in the red zone... they can't miss short, better to miss long and put it in the end zone.  Ball is going to clear the blockers, not go in between them.  

It's great to have this imagination... but you are making things way too complicated.  The kickers now will absolutely look to kick the ball and land it near the goal line, but just short of it.  Not anywhere close to hitting the blockers, even if you give them tennis rackets to hold up. 

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If all 3 are neck and neck then that means we can go 1-1 or 2-0? I'm looking for a nice blow out win in Brazil to kick things off because we are going to RATTLE Love if these young guys step up. We need to show the league that 11th ranking is BS

We are implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. They are already entrenched in theirs. Believe the Pack were the youngest team last season. So I’m not on the side of planning on betting my house on us winning week one.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was the 7th ranked O last season. Are the expectations for you it will be number 1? Or what here? The O won several games in the last minutes last season. But I do think we can hopefully have expectations of less turnovers as an improvement source.

I'm hoping we can go top 5. Even 5th would be good. That rests on Hurts. bark should ease his(Hurts) "panic" runs some. Using Goedert correctly will also helps Hurts. Paris/Ainias in the slot will also help. Even if the D is "as good"(or bad) as last year we should still be better overall

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Rookies like we have why are their rookies better than ours?

You brought up their weakness of run D. I pointed out drafting arguably the top LB should matter…plus the other drafted defenders. You pointed out Saquan. 
  So I just pointed out our shotty looking run D…and they have RB Jacobs.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. They are already entrenched in theirs. Believe the Pack were the youngest team last season. So I’m not on the side of planning on betting my house on us winning week one.

The schemes last year didn't even exist LOL ANY scheme is better than the zero we had last year. And now teams have NO IDEA what we come out with

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You brought up their weakness of run D. I pointed out drafting arguably the top LB should matter…plus the other drafted defenders. You pointed out Saquan. 
  So I just pointed out our shotty looking run D…and they have RB Jacobs.

So if we're "neck and neck" with GB we lose automatically???

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You brought up their weakness of run D. I pointed out drafting arguably the top LB should matter…plus the other drafted defenders. You pointed out Saquan. 
  So I just pointed out our shotty looking run D…and they have RB Jacobs.

Why would the top LB matter more than the top CB we got in?

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why would the top LB matter more than the top CB we got in?

I mean overall isn't that a wash?

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We snuffed some good RB's last year why would that be worse now?

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