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Seems like you are trying to make the point  it has been better for AJ to get paid as the top player at his position as early as possible. Well…duh.

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Are you paying all these guys ... the amount Reddick thinks he is worth?  Because all of them,  along with 8 other guys had more sacks than Reddick.

And sacks is the only thing Reddick brings to the table.  Poor run D.  Bad coverage skills.  Didn't create turnovers 

So personally... I don't give a crap if a player thinks he is better than he is and should get paid more.  The reality of the situation is what matters.  Reddick misread the market.  That's his fault.  But he wasn't going to get paid any more ...that's reality.  

The Eagles didn't low ball...they made a smart decision not to overreact and overpay simply because of a fluke season.  And by the reality,  no other team was going to do that either.

That's not a negative result of signing Reddick early...that's a player not in touch with reality.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Kayvon Thibodeaux

Denico Autry

Jonathan Greenard

Montez Sweat

Justin Madubuike

Danielle Hunter

Are you paying all these guys ... the amount Reddick thinks he is worth?  Because all of them,  along with 8 other guys had more sacks than Reddick.

And sacks is the only thing Reddick brings to the table.  Poor run D.  Bad coverage skills.  Didn't create turnovers 

So personally... I don't give a crap if a player thinks he is better than he is and should get paid more.  The reality of the situation is what matters.  Reddick misread the market.  That's his fault.  But he wasn't going to get paid any more ...that's reality.  

The Eagles didn't low ball...they made a smart decision not to overreact and overpay simply because of a fluke season.  And by the reality,  no other team was going to do that either.

That's not a negative result of signing Reddick early...that's a player not in touch with reality.

 

 

 

Sweat signed 4 year 98 mi

Madubuike signed 4 year 98 mil

Hunter 2 year 49 mil

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like you are trying to make the point  it has been better for AJ to get paid as the top player at his position as early as possible. Well…duh.

You were trying to make the opposite point.   That the players shouldn't get paid early because then they complain.  You tried to make it sound like the Eagles were forced to pay AJ this year...instead of seeing how its a great deal.

6 years $132 mil of cap hits... 27 and 29 mil in 2028 and 2029.    He is a top WR in the league... 6 years 22 mil avg cap hit... now take a look around the league and understand why the Eagles weren't forced to do anything...it was simply good business. 

And understand overpaying Reddick wouldn't have been good business.

But... your boy Fangio, probably could have talked them into it ....but obviously he didn't see the need either.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sweat signed 4 year 98 mi

Madubuike signed 4 year 98 mil

Hunter 2 year 49 mil

And...  what are their ages...and the run defense, coverage skills and turnover creations?

And... would you pay all these guys?  ALL OF THESE GUYS. DON'T CHERRY PICK TO SPIN IT.

We paid Bryce Huff the money instead…who had less sacks…in his breakout season even. Huff isn’t good in coverage or versus the run either.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We paid Bryce Huff the money instead…who had less sacks…in his breakout season even. Huff isn’t good in coverage or versus the run either.

Did we pay Huff $20- 25 mil...or the money Reddick wanted?   That's what we paid Huff?

I missed that part.

Reddick’s had 50 SACKS over the last four seasons. How many players have delivered more sack production than that?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We paid Bryce Huff the money instead…who had less sacks…in his breakout season even. Huff isn’t good in coverage or versus the run either.

I mean... if we kept Reddick...vs making the trade... that is the same cap hit either way for 2024... so we didn't pay anyone else instead.

And we certainly didn't pay the money Reddick was asking for.   

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Reddick’s had 50 SACKS over the last four seasons. How many players have delivered more sack production than that?

I’ll assist you here…only three players have more sacks over the last four years.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Reddick’s had 50 SACKS over the last four seasons. How many players have delivered more sack production than that?

That's great...you pay guys for 2024 and going forward. .. not 2019 to 2023. 

This from a guy who I had to constantly hear bee otch about 2019 and all the " bad contracts" to the older guys.

Really?

Reddick has 144 tackles over those last four years as well. More than Garrett, Bosa, Parsons….

You are butt hurt that your boy Reddick can't freeze time and stay in 2022 and wants to play here for his value instead of turning out to be greedy and unrealistic. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I mean... if we kept Reddick...vs making the trade... that is the same cap hit either way for 2024... so we didn't pay anyone else instead.

And we certainly didn't pay the money Reddick was asking for.   

We paying cap hit for Reddick to play for the Jets …yes so brilliant!

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Reddick has 144 tackles over those last four years as well. More than Garrett, Bosa, Parsons….

That's great... now he can be disgruntled in NY.... because as you say...you don’t want any disgruntled player here.

Btw...why hasn't he gotten paid yet?   Just curious you don't ask Joe Douglass this question?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We paying cap hit for Reddick to play for the Jets …yes so brilliant!

No extra cap hit at all...but... go look at the result of Reddick’s contract with the Eagles. 

2 years at how much cap hit??

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You are butt hurt that your boy Reddick can't freeze time and stay in 2022 and wants to play here for his value instead of turning out to be greedy and unrealistic. 

Reddick isn’t my boy..but was our best defender and pass rusher. I can understand the situation being us rebuilding under new schemes. So we are looking to the future. Hurts this years team. That’s why fans thinking we are better and some top contending team are in a totally different thinking and logic than me. Trying to win a SB this year or next? I’d want Reddick.

Reddick.... 2 years $32.2 million... with the 2022 and 2023 results... plus getting a 3rd / possible 2nd round pick. 

Was it a good signing?   I say absolutely.  Wasn’t worth $16.1 mil last year...but 2022 results, absolutely made it worth it.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

That's great... now he can be disgruntled in NY.... because as you say...you don’t want any disgruntled player here.

Btw...why hasn't he gotten paid yet?   Just curious you don't ask Joe Douglass this question?

You are trying to act like it’s just that simple. Nobody was willing to give up draft picks this draft. Proven and clear fact…it really didn’t hardly even occur. Reddick getting paid hasn’t played out yet. Still tons of time for that to occur. But the Jets have him cheap….one year rental…at much less than one year rental trade cost. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Reddick.... 2 years $32.2 million... with the 2022 and 2023 results... plus getting a 3rd / possible 2nd round pick. 

Was it a good signing?   I say absolutely.  Wasn’t worth $16.1 mil last year...but 2022 results, absolutely made it worth it.

Easily worth 16 mil last season…playing underpaid and disgruntled…in his mind at least. Half price pass rusher pay. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You are trying to act like it’s just that simple. Nobody was willing to give up draft picks this draft. Proven and clear fact…it really didn’t hardly even occur. Reddick getting paid hasn’t played out yet. Still tons of time for that to occur. But the Jets have him cheap….one year rental…at much less than one year rental trade cost. 

It is simple.  Reddick wants more money than any of the 32 teams are willing to give him....

The Eagles got him for 2 years 32.2 million.... plus getting a day 2 pick. 

And you are trying to spin it as bad moves for the Eagles.  Because it's what you do.   

So we got a great season…then a disgruntled season..then a forced trade for peanuts situation. That’s what we received from a great money signing cheap.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Easily worth 16 mil last season…playing underpaid and disgruntled…in his mind at least. Half price pass rusher pay. 

Then you think it's even better deal for the Eagles than I do.  I don't think 2023 version of Reddick was 16 mil...but then since Huff was right there... with way less snaps... then you should love that deal we gave him.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So we got a great season…then a disgruntled season..then a forced trade for peanuts situation. That’s what we received from a great money signing cheap.

We got 2 years...$32.2 million...plus a draft pick.  That's the facts.  No adjectives involved you see.

I know you love your adjectives...instead of facts.  But the numbers are the facts.  2 years 32.2 million...plus a day 2 future pick.

On the contract or on the stat sheets... I don't see the word " disgruntled or happy or anything else".

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

It is simple.  Reddick wants more money than any of the 32 teams are willing to give him....

The Eagles got him for 2 years 32.2 million.... plus getting a day 2 pick. 

And you are trying to spin it as bad moves for the Eagles.  Because it's what you do.   

Fourth most sacks in the NFL over the last four years….for a 2026…not 2024..even 2025…but 2026 third round pick. If you see that as great value in return…don’t even know where to continue this discussion from.

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