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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To me anyway, Hurts has convinced me he can handle the pressure of the big moments. Dak does nothing much for me as a QB. I don’t care much for a regular season player. Need a postseason player.

Postseason in Tampa... or postseason without AJ... not exactly a strong endorsement

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5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pardon me for prioritizing winning a SB that I felt confident before the season was the best setup I’d ever seen. Most teams trying to go ‘all in’ typically trade the future picks to go ‘all in.’ Not trade away current picks for future picks. But I was telling you I seriously could have seen us taking the WR Thomas in the first round. Would have been a huge boon to our O. I do understand that’s being a bit greedy. But always a medium level sure handed Wr comes on the block. It’s guaranteed every year. That third WR is a starter. It’s an important job.

I think we should trade for elite level backups everywhere....  I think the tickets and parking should be free.... lets just keep throwing unrealistic scenarios out there... but i'm just wanting better for the team and fans. 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pardon me for prioritizing winning a SB that I felt confident before the season was the best setup I’d ever seen. Most teams trying to go ‘all in’ typically trade the future picks to go ‘all in.’ Not trade away current picks for future picks. But I was telling you I seriously could have seen us taking the WR Thomas in the first round. Would have been a huge boon to our O. I do understand that’s being a bit greedy. But always a medium level sure handed Wr comes on the block. It’s guaranteed every year. That third WR is a starter. It’s an important job.

you don't prioritize winning the Superbowl.    If the Eagles were to get to the playoffs... Hurts got injured... and then the Eagles won the Superbowl... that would be hell for you.  Right now your agenda... " it's not Hurt's fault"   

25 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 But need something other than a young unproven developmental project or a aged over the hill vet.

But for a year we had to hear how a rookie UNPROVEN safety was going to be the key to winning the Superbowl, so the Saints trade wasn't good.   

It's funny how you spin things your way when it fits the agenda.  

 

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24 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Does that effect if the Eagles win a Superbowl?

The Robins you mean?

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Only Hurts.

This is your response to all the absolute above and beyond leadership Hurts demonstrates. Sure other guys do some of each of these things Hurts does so routinely. Plenty of them don’t do much of any of it. ARod was out in Egypt and didn’t even attend mandatory OTAs. But you just gotta down play all that Hurts does. The guy is a competitor. He eats and lives football. Nobody works as hard as he does. Nobody wants to win more than him.  Sure maybe he isn’t 6’5”. Can’t throw the football out of the stadium like Mike Vick. Maybe not a rocket scientist. But he tries to max out what he can do. He lifts to make his body in a way I can’t really say I’ve seen a QB have. He uses that to great success converting short yardage at the highest percentage I’ve ever seen. Never been anybody better at doing that. He studies tirelessly.

  I just can’t understand how anybody wouldn’t root for him. I find him very easy to root for. He isn’t some spoiled athlete just riding by on his talents. He doesn’t sleep through meetings. He seems to embrace every player around him. He has that effect. I knew he was our guy over Wentz that rookie season…because I saw how his teammates responded to him. He has an effect on the D players you just can’t even see or grasp. His rookie season he came in and the D played inspired and stepped up. Fletch and BG caught on mic talking about how the opponent doesn’t realize how we have Hurts. They believe in him. Whether it comes true or not…every teammate believes he will find a way to win each game. He has that unstoppable competitive spirit. He refuses to lose. He hates it with a passion! Last season he was not letting our team slack off because we were 10-1. You heard him preach how they weren’t playing at a level that was enough to get where he wanted to go. He understood…we were squeaking out victories versus any level of opponent. Which is great to know how to win. But clearly wasn’t going to be enough to beat the Niners or do any real damage in the big games.

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21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pardon me for prioritizing winning a SB that I felt confident before the season was the best setup I’d ever seen. Most teams trying to go ‘all in’ typically trade the future picks to go ‘all in.’ Not trade away current picks for future picks. But I was telling you I seriously could have seen us taking the WR Thomas in the first round. Would have been a huge boon to our O. I do understand that’s being a bit greedy. But always a medium level sure handed Wr comes on the block. It’s guaranteed every year. That third WR is a starter. It’s an important job.

Welp,Hurts had difficulty finding Quez who was sub standard IMO,so Hurts needs to locate these guys every play. That's why I keep harping on Hurts deficiencies. if you look at Hurts passing charts you will see very few passes in the middle of the field. That needs to change. Possibly Quez was not good enough to offer a window,that will change. Now it's on Hurts to find these guys. Hurts needs to now stand in and get through the progressions instead of the panic run after 1 or maybe 2 reads

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He puts on a nice show for sure... you soak it up.  Again, I'll take the opinion of the former players over yours ...8 days a week, 

I‘M absolutely fine with that. I listen to what most anybody has to say. I’ll take it into account when forming my opinions. But I know some football. I educate myself enough about our franchise to form very educated decisions. I have the capacity to seperate my love for players and coaches and call things like I see them.  A stud like Kelce even makes mistakes sometimes. Rosie is a key example of a guy that I constantly discuss his positives and negatives. I weigh in with my opinion in real time. As they happen. Nobody is perfect and brilliant all the time. 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The Robins you mean?

If the Superbowl comes to Philly...you can call them whatever you like.   

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

If the Superbowl comes to Philly...you can call them whatever you like.   

SO showing a chart of assembling the best NFCE team brings a SB to Philly also? If you are unhappy with a post just ignore it. I'm sick of the woke BS and will fight that whenever I can. Feel free to ignore me

I have a very long track record on here of my opinions. Not just hindsight…but predicting beforehand how I see things. I get some things wrong. But really feel like my percentage of being correct is very high. The game of football isn’t all that complicated really. I clearly could see how Pedey needed a speed WR for his O to really flourish. Didn’t take me a whole bunch of consideration to realize the gimmick and negatives surrounding Chip Kelly fast break O.  Not hard for me to see how when Rosie relies on the football people to make his decisions he does a much better job. It just isn’t in his DNA. I really don’t know if Rosie ever played any sport.  But Rosie can stand in the face of pressure situations and make good decisions. He isn’t crumbling to make a trade by giving up more than he wants just because of the pressure. He handled the crucial AJ trade on the clock. The most crucial deal he’s made…and he did it with a timeline of before his pick. He signed AJ to a fair contract under these terms. It was a smart move.

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8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I‘M absolutely fine with that. I listen to what most anybody has to say. I’ll take it into account when forming my opinions. But I know some football. I educate myself enough about our franchise to form very educated decisions. I have the capacity to seperate my love for players and coaches and call things like I see them.  A stud like Kelce even makes mistakes sometimes. Rosie is a key example of a guy that I constantly discuss his positives and negatives. I weigh in with my opinion in real time. As they happen. Nobody is perfect and brilliant all the time. 

No,really you exclude Hurts from all that,really you do!!! You have a totally different mindset for him than everyone else. Nobody really knows why

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Better tell the native American group they are only "cheap theatrics".I'm sure they would be appreciative

They already know….waits been happening to them since Columbus landed.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They already know….waits been happening to them since Columbus landed.

So call and tell them to stop their lawsuit. I'm certain they will heed what you say

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The other 31 QB's don't welcome new guys to the team?

You gotta put it all together…he does all these little things you don’t appreciate. No I don’t think every QB texts each player once they join the team. ARod probably locked up in a cave somewhere. Plenty of them in Cabo or wherever living the famous life.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just allowing Brazil to make some money at the expense of AMERICAN NFL fans

Please NFL just looking to cash in on new territories. I mean just how much more money can the NFL make off Americans. They’ve completely saturated our countries earning potential. They see how the NBA is killing it in all these other countries now. Soccer all these countries. The one area they are jealous. Football has just been an American sport.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You gotta put it all together…he does all these little things you don’t appreciate. No I don’t think every QB texts each player once they join the team. ARod probably locked up in a cave somewhere. Plenty of them in Cabo or wherever living the famous life.

I don't care what Arod does. He relies on his coaches to get them up to(his) speed(which is what they are paid to do). I'm sure he doesn't call them names and try to alienate them LOL. I'm happy Hurts welcomes new guys,that's NICE.but what matters is what happens on the field. Nice guys finish last. Arod expects things from his supporting cast. Hurts isn't there yet. Arod doesn't need to be a babysitter

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It relates to the NFCE. Feel free to scroll past it,no need to comment. It's worth it to me to because they should not have caved to the woke to start with,but it's football related unless you want me to list all other businesses that caved as well. "They" tried to get GB to drop the "Packers" and were told to pound salt,so they are the Washington WUSS until they decide that THEY run their business,not some outside trash. What if "they" wanted to force the Eagles to change names because they are an endangered species? Maybe the Philly Robins suits you better?

See and I can agree with you on most any other examples of your point. But just not this one. Redskins I find flat out boob. Obviously boob. It’s so easy to see through these weak attempts at billionaires buying off tribes for support. Snyder started that huge fund for them…promised them endlessly I’m sure. Then once he lost the fight ….money dried up immediately. Sickens me.

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See and I can agree with you on most any other examples of your point. But just not this one. Redskins I find flat out boob. Obviously boob. It’s so easy to see through these weak attempts at billionaires buying off tribes for support. Snyder started that huge fund for them…promised them endlessly I’m sure. Then once he lost the fight ….money dried up immediately. Sickens me.

GB told them to eff off. The Wuss caved. Maybe the tribe is suing to get the money flow restarted LOL. Only they know for sure

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

First point I’d argue is about the selfless top two receivers. When they paid Smitty …everybody knew that AJ was going to become an issue. Rosie fully understood that with signing Smitty he had to pay AJ more to feed his ego. Or else a real bad situation was going to develop. 

55 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ham puts out something that he know isn't going to happen... this way he has something to complain about later and can say " I called it, this is what I would have done"

We got the Saints to do that stupid trade.... he couldn't concede forever that it was an easy decision to take that trade.  

When we were kids there was always that Cowboys fan somewhere... the kid looking for attention.  Similar situation here.

It’s just how everyone tries to point out how AJ and Smitty make our WRs the greatest. So easy to gloss over anything behind them. That’s where we’ve been majorly failing. We keep having a guy out there all the time that stinks. A blocking receiver. It’s nice they can block….but they need to catch some too if they actually are a WR or TE.

51 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He puts on a nice show for sure... you soak it up.  Again, I'll take the opinion of the former players over yours ...8 days a week, 

And isn’t that part of the job? How to handle yourself as a pro athlete? But he took Ringo under his wing. Told him he should take Slays job from himself. He has that confidence in his ability…but also realizes his mortality.

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5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

First point I’d argue is about the selfless top two receivers. When they paid Smitty …everybody knew that AJ was going to become an issue. Rosie fully understood that with signing Smitty he had to pay AJ more to feed his ego. Or else a real bad situation was going to develop. 

Smitty would be WR 1 about anywhere else. They are both talented and worth keeping around

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Smitty would be WR 1 about anywhere else. They are both talented and worth keeping around

Why wait and get into the "Dullaz" situation they have with Lamb? Extend them at or during their peaks,just good business

17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No,really you exclude Hurts from all that,really you do!!! You have a totally different mindset for him than everyone else. Nobody really knows why

I don’t think so. I think I just don’t get the opportunity much to discuss his mistakes and downsides. It’s just a constant barrage here about blaming him for everything. I offer up things that are negative about Hurts. I recognize how he deserved to be benched for Tua at Bama. Then transferred and was runner up to Burrow having the greatest season in college football season. Runner up for MVP. Guys that aren’t half as good don’t handle that benching situation like Hurts did. He’s proven now how elite stud player he is. But he didn’t pout and cause a huge scene about being benched. He took it like a man. 

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