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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are on the opposite spectrum because we don’t even have decent at WR3.

who’s the stud you are referring to?

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

When you have 3 WRs.... how many TEs on the field?

Which formation does a WR3 play more than a TE1?

I agree we need a 5th option....  to go along with RB, TE and 2 WRs.    If it's a stud TE 2 or WR 3, I don't care. 

But we need a WR 3 that can get open in a phone booth.  Not a " deep route" extend the field guy.

There I don’t believe you’re thinking about us so much. WR3 is light years more important than TE2 for us.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Would we be better off with Higgins or Goedert? I look at the Cincy situation having been more favorable…for us.

Why?    

1.  With looking around the league in the modern game....success of teams with a good 3rd WR vs the stud TE1

2.  With Moore's offense 

Idk it seems like you get an agenda,  but don't pay attention to what's going on.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Are we just looking to keep giving Hurts excuses ?    

Which 10 Non QBs are better than Philadelphia?     

No need to look for excuses from the best QB in our franchises history. It would be wise to build the O around Hurts though. He’s always much more preferred WR targeting than TE.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There I don’t believe you’re thinking about us so much. WR3 is light years more important than TE2 for us.

...TE 1 ..   now you are changing the subject to TE2.   Different conversation.   

TE1. More important than WR 3.    You could make the argument for TE 2 vs WR 3....but I would love to have that problem.   

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No need to look for excuses from the best QB in our franchises history. It would be wise to build the O around Hurts though. He’s always much more preferred WR targeting than TE.

He prefers running the ball himself. Should we build the offense around that?

Let's get the college band out there and petition the league for the wide hash mark too.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He prefers running the ball himself. Should we build the offense around that?

We sure have built the O around him running the ball 

My perfect offense.... 

The set 4....RB ( all around player) TE ( top blocker, plus pass catcher), 2 stud WRs.

Now I prefer the quick slot guy..   and the TE 2 that can block but with some pass catching ability.  

These two pieces were missing. Quez was not a slot fit.  I believe the new WRs are a better fit.  TE... idk.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We sure have built the O around him running the ball 

You think so...you think the 2024 O will be built around Hurts running the ball?

When you see Hurts say... 95% of the offense is new.

Lane say, Hurts has had his best offseason as a pro.

Smith talk about the freedom they have in their routes...

Your first thought is the 2024 Eagles offense is built around Hurts running the ball? 

Why I'm excited...is I believe the 2024 offense isn't going to be built around Hurts running the ball.   I believe Barkley offers a better option as a RB running the ball, plus pass protection and receiving.   I believe Shipley will be a legit RB 3 who carries the ball some.

I believe they drafted a WR specifically for the slot.

I think the motion stuff...etc.  

All of this is so Hurts runs less. Not more.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

My perfect offense.... 

The set 4....RB ( all around player) TE ( top blocker, plus pass catcher), 2 stud WRs.

Now I prefer the quick slot guy..   and the TE 2 that can block but with some pass catching ability.  

These two pieces were missing. Quez was not a slot fit.  I believe the new WRs are a better fit.  TE... idk.

I prefer WR that are more interchangeable. Three WR that can line up anywhere would be really hard to contend against. DC would be up late all week trying to prepare for that.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I prefer WR that are more interchangeable. Three WR that can line up anywhere would be really hard to contend against. DC would be up late all week trying to prepare for that.

Congrats.... that's common sense... just like the TE that can block and be a threat in the passing game.

The point is... the 3rd WR has to be able to function in the slot.... we haven't had that since Agholor.  Quez was not that guy.

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You think so...you think the 2024 O will be built around Hurts running the ball?

It’s clearly an element.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

When you see Hurts say... 95% of the offense is new.

Lane say, Hurts has had his best offseason as a pro.

Smith talk about the freedom they have in their routes...

Your first thought is the 2024 Eagles offense is built around Hurts running the ball? 

It’s built around many things. Number one thing it should be built around is our QB. So QB runs will be in there.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s built around many things. Number one thing it should be built around is our QB. So QB runs will be in there.

Our Oline can be dominant run blocking. So really should establish that physical attacking mentality up front by featuring and wearing dow opponents on the ground with our RBs.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Our Oline can be dominant run blocking. So really should establish that physical attacking mentality up front by featuring and wearing dow opponents on the ground with our RBs.

Would like to see the undrafted Georgia RB possibly factor into this approach.

So the report out goes into just how much the O was Siri’s last year…not so much Johnson. That Siri was even playcalling…to what degrees we won’t know. But it’s rumored he jumped in playcalling more during the slide.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So the report out goes into just how much the O was Siri’s last year…not so much Johnson. That Siri was even playcalling…to what degrees we won’t know. But it’s rumored he jumped in playcalling more during the slide.

We all knew Johnson was a sacrificial lamb. But really seeing how much he was the scapegoat for Siri with a bit more understanding of how much last seasons O predictable and stale features were to be placed at Siri’s feet.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We all knew Johnson was a sacrificial lamb. But really seeing how much he was the scapegoat for Siri with a bit more understanding of how much last seasons O predictable and stale features were to be placed at Siri’s feet.

This knowledge makes me understand the dynamics involved a bit more between our HC and QB. Siri’s O with a very heavy hand….but he keeps his job….while Johnson takes the fall.

Had Johnson at the perfect spot as QB coach. Really dumb decision to have screwed that up on purpose. 

Nussmeir’s extensive background being a QB coach:

I think there was a one year overlap with Coach Doug and Stout at Bama

Coach Doug has a more impressive resume than our HC…if you take out the HC for us part

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