2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lurie likes him,why he stayed here. Doesn't matter what you think unless you want to buy the team

By I really think they just decided that they didn’t have the right HC options to turn towards at that point for this season. Top two options probably being OC Johnson from the Lions…or the guy in real high on Slowik the OC in Houston. Both will be available next offseason. So …just need to develop the D under Fangio. Look at the offseason moves. They reflect this franchise logic taking place. Brought in the supposed second place finisher for HC job behind Siri originally in Moore. So maybe he works out. If he does maybe just promote him to HC next season.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't think Hurts has the field vision now decision making ability to make enough reads to involve them unless the play is specifically for them(1 read). This is what I want to see Hurts improve on. Slot should be read 3 or 4 depending

Slot can be read one in many situations….if we had a real option to turn to.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

WR3 I’m arguing is probably even more important than TE1 in our O.

Look at teams that make post season. SF,KC,US These are 3 of the best TE's in the business. Coincidence? I don't think it is. A top TE is more of a nightmare to cover than WR3. It's nice when you have them BOTH and why we got Ainias. Once he gets up to speed he will challenge Paris for the slot. 

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't think Hurts has the field vision now decision making ability to make enough reads to involve them unless the play is specifically for them(1 read). This is what I want to see Hurts improve on. Slot should be read 3 or 4 depending

So far with the terrible options we’ve provided in the slot…..the Slot has been the Break Glass in Case of Emergency Read

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Look at teams that make post season. SF,KC,US These are 3 of the best TE's in the business. Coincidence? I don't think it is. A top TE is more of a nightmare to cover than WR3. It's nice when you have them BOTH and why we got Ainias. Once he gets up to speed he will challenge Paris for the slot. 

So you are saying the best TE ever in KC has been effective? Shocker 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ideally that third WR would also be versatile to be capable to play any position. But Johnny I only see as an outside X type. But if he can do that would be huge for us.

They moved him around the FL St. he actually doesn't know where he plays. We will figure that out for him and get him going

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So far with the terrible options we’ve provided in the slot…..the Slot has been the Break Glass in Case of Emergency Read

Hurts can't see read 2 usually,let alone reads 3 and 4. He needs to process faster and get the ball out faster

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They moved him around the FL St. he actually doesn't know where he plays. We will figure that out for him and get him going

X

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

AJ and Smitty can play any WR position

Aren't they best outside? Why do you want to move them around?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts can't see read 2 usually,let alone reads 3 and 4. He needs to process faster and get the ball out faster

He needs to get the ball out faster to read 4…ok

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

X

Or maybe he becomes TE2? He has the frame

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

By I really think they just decided that they didn’t have the right HC options to turn towards at that point for this season. Top two options probably being OC Johnson from the Lions…or the guy in real high on Slowik the OC in Houston. Both will be available next offseason. So …just need to develop the D under Fangio. Look at the offseason moves. They reflect this franchise logic taking place. Brought in the supposed second place finisher for HC job behind Siri originally in Moore. So maybe he works out. If he does maybe just promote him to HC next season.

Going to be telling in many ways. Hurts and Siri on the hot seat IMO and Fangio needs to get the kids involved and working

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Aren't they best outside? Why do you want to move them around?

I think they are versatile and can play any WR position. I expect Moore to move them around and not be so terribly predictable. Watch. But what option do we have to play outside when we do move either inside? Johnny is the only option…possibly Ngata if he makes the big jump finally.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Going to be telling in many ways. Hurts and Siri on the hot seat IMO and Fangio needs to get the kids involved and working

NFL stands for Not For Long. But to describe the 2022 MVP runner up and 2023 leading MVP candidate after week 12 as on the hot seat stretches this saying to the limits

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Slot can be read one in many situations….if we had a real option to turn to.

What I'm trying to convey to you is unless that play is specifically called(for the slot) Hurts cannot make 3/4 reads,but this is what he needs to do to become a top level QB. That 3rd or 4th read means the difference between a gain/first down and or throwing the ball away or forcing Hurts to run. On a 3rd down pass play the slot needs to be seen at all times. If you look at Hurts passing chart the middle of the field is totally ignored. Defenses see this also. Hurts needs to make plays there to force defenses to cover there. Right now they put their worst guy there because Hurts doesn't throw there

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you are saying the best TE ever in KC has been effective? Shocker 

The TE in SF and here are pretty good also and that guy in Baltimore is another. Why do all the playoff contenders have top TEs?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What I'm trying to convey to you is unless that play is specifically called(for the slot) Hurts cannot make 3/4 reads,but this is what he needs to do to become a top level QB. That 3rd or 4th read means the difference between a gain/first down and or throwing the ball away or forcing Hurts to run. On a 3rd down pass play the slot needs to be seen at all times. If you look at Hurts passing chart the middle of the field is totally ignored. Defenses see this also. Hurts needs to make plays there to force defenses to cover there. Right now they put their worst guy there because Hurts doesn't throw there

Hurts is at fault for us not having a slot WR option for him is what I’m reading from you

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He needs to get the ball out faster to read 4…ok

If the first 3 are covered yep,that's his job

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The TE in SF and here are pretty good also and that guy in Baltimore is another. Why do all the playoff contenders have top TEs?

Are we trying to build an O elsewhere? Or here?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts is at fault for us not having a slot WR option for him is what I’m reading from you

Wrong,let me get caught up first LOL

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

If the first 3 are covered yep,that's his job

Read four is never going to be considered getting the ball out fast

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

NFL stands for Not For Long. But to describe the 2022 MVP runner up and 2023 leading MVP candidate after week 12 as on the hot seat stretches this saying to the limits

Clocks keep ticking and Lurie wants a ring. Hurts now has everything under the sun to get that and it needs to be done NOW

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Read four is never going to be considered getting the ball out fast

4 reads in under 3 seconds,it needs to be done

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Wrong,let me get caught up first LOL

He hadn’t thrown a bunch of balls to Quez, OZ or Julio…what has Hurts been thinking.  We should have produced thousands of yards over the middle from these options. Fire QB1 immediately. Totally his fault for underutilizing such studs.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Clocks keep ticking and Lurie wants a ring. Hurts now has everything under the sun to get that and it needs to be done NOW

This coming from the guy believing our team was the best last year…that was totally flawed. Grain of salt tossed aside